Source says Ross will try to hire Harbaugh if Dolphins miss the playoffs

Submitted by Raskolnikov on

Sam Webb said something similar yesterday.

Edit; Now Balas is saying it. This can't be dismissed as typical NFL naysaying. If we dismiss Rapoport as a hack when he says Harbaugh turned us down, we should also question the legitimacy of his "Ross wants Harbaugh at Michigan" tidbit. It's not good news but for Christ's sake people, be objective. 

Edit 2: Rapoport doubling down. https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/544164834838052865

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coldnjl

December 14th, 2014 at 9:21 AM ^

Pointing to Sam Webb now is like pointing to Gregg Hensen. Both, in this regard, have shown to be either unreliable or uncredible on the current coaching search. Unless Singletary or some of our prospects now the specifics of what has bore out to be an incredibly tight search process, i doubt Webb has an info of significance. 

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MGoBrewMom

December 14th, 2014 at 9:33 AM ^

looking for morsels of anything because the fact is, thing that include actual information, or even well sourced information are pretty non-existant at this point. This is just another thing--like throwing us a friggin bone--a rumor, from who knows who. I don't know if it was anywhere else, or only on the newly created "Rumor board" on GBW. Which is a board specifically for unsubstantiated rumors, to keep them separate from well vetted sources. So, posting this is fine because we all want to read something--but I'm not sure it's legit, and people dismissing Sam are ill informed and probably only getting headlines or soundbites from someone else regarding what Sam is actually saying. Did Sam actually "say" this, or is it only posted on that rumor board? Honest question--because that's the only place I read it.

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Raskolnikov

December 14th, 2014 at 9:45 AM ^

I'm not sure exactly where he said it, but this is what he said: "The talk that Stephen Ross wants Harbaugh at Michigan is overblown. If Miami misses the playoffs Ross will try to bring Jimmy to Miami. "He thinks there are enough college coaches to go around," one source said."

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MGoBrewMom

December 14th, 2014 at 10:32 AM ^

what he posted in a RUMOR BOARD on GBW. He created that board when the rumors floating around were contradictory and he wanted to control content because he didn't want stuff that was unsubstantiated on the other board. He wanted to make sure sources were legit before posting...so there was a huge uproar from people who thought he was sensoring other GBW contributors. The result was the Coaching Search Rumor Board--with disclaimers that their were primarily rumors that are not to be posted elsewhere. If it is posted here, there are disclaimers that the information is RUMOR only--someone said something--validity is really not known. So, people read this stuff, hear this stuff, and it's like a bad game of "Telephone".

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Raskolnikov

December 14th, 2014 at 11:13 AM ^

If you have membership there, I believe you. I got it second-hand, so I can't say otherwise.

But please, let this be the last time I have to say this: I am not saying this is true. All I am saying is that it's not part of the regularly-schedules NFL naysaying. That's all I am saying. In fact I hope with all my heart that it's not.

It should also be said that OBJECTIVITY IS A GOOD THING. I want accurate information, period. People are tripping over themselves to cite the Rapoport tidbit, while ignoring the fact that we roundly condemned him as a hack when he said Harbaugh turned us down. It is clear to me that Harbaugh has not turned us down, so I believe that neither report has any credibility. I am assuming that Ross never said he prefers Harbaugh at Michigan.

So, I look at this stuff as new information. At leat two people are saying it. The source could be the same and it could be junk, but it bears looking into.

I want accurate information, whether it is positive or negative. That is apparently a stance that a lot of people disagree with on this board.

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LSAClassOf2000

December 14th, 2014 at 11:14 AM ^

For some reason, the "Grapevine" scene from "Johnny Dangerously" went through my head when I read this reply, perhaps because it is a funny portrayal of the phenomenon currently being experienced on this and every Michigan blog out there basically. Somehow, "Vermin is going to kill Johnny's brother at the Savoy Theater tomorrow night" became "Harbaugh to ________"

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Leonhall

December 14th, 2014 at 9:06 AM ^

This will happen if he doesn't go to Michigan IMO. If he ends up coming to us, we'll look back on this and say it was a good smoke screen to keep people from asking about Michigan. I believe Ross would only do this if Jim has said or eventually says no.



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Lampuki

December 14th, 2014 at 9:06 AM ^

The play here is. ... Hey Jimmy...get Michigan straight then finish your career in Miami. Ross will do the right thing unless he felt slight by handling of Brandon which I doubt.

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mGrowOld

December 14th, 2014 at 9:07 AM ^

I'm sorry but I have a difficult time imaging a guy would donate as much money as Ross has to Michigan would then turn around and submarine efforts to get Harbaugh back.

I think if Jim turns Michigan down this story might be true but not before that happens.

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teldar

December 14th, 2014 at 10:15 AM ^

The NFL media deal was over $6B last year. That should be right around  $200M per team. Average ticket price is $85 and average stadium size is 65000. This is another $55M for 100% occupancy. (One link I found said average ticket revenue was over $80M last year once playoffs were included.) Teams keep half their gate receipts and share the other half, so almost everybody gets a VERY similar amount from gate receipts. I'm sure there are a couple outliers each way, but I'm not going that far.

So, we're up to ~$280M/yr gross income. Lets not talk about concessions or parking or merchandise sales. I'm sure that doesn't come to much each year... (in 2010 merchandise alone was over $2B)

Salary cap for this season in the NFL was $133M. So... $280M in revenue, ignoring league revenue of $2B+, also not including naming rights for the arena that the tax payers built minus  $133M for player... So, if they can keep other costs under $150M/yr, they should be making money hand over fist. Sounds to me like the 'cost' of NFL ownership is the cost of buying the team.

 

 

 

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1974

December 14th, 2014 at 10:33 AM ^

The parent poster didn't say that Gates' charity is self-serving.

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Gates didn't get really rich by being a nice guy.

He started out pretty far up the track (wealthy parents, etc.) and made the most of that advantage. Microsoft (i.e., Bill) made some excellent strategic decisions. They also stifled innovation and hijacked standards where that suited their purpose.

Gates got "charity" religion relatively late in life. I think he can be compared somewhat to earlier robber barons who polished their images after making piles of money. Self-serving? To a degree, I think.

At least some good for him, though -- there are plenty of people like him who never lean that way.

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xtramelanin

December 14th, 2014 at 9:11 AM ^

that harbaugh is scared of dolphins.  stems from an incident from his youth.  won't talk about it.  and won't coach them either.  so there.

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Danwillhor

December 14th, 2014 at 9:11 AM ^

at Michigan I said that it was really a win-win statement for him. I never thought he would ignore him for the Dolphins job even if Philbin made the playoffs. Why? Again, it's up to Jim. If Jim wants to stay in the NFL all Ross has to say (if anything) is "sorry, he wanted to stay in the NFL so why wouldn't I want him?" and it's not like he lied. If Jim is willing to go back to CFB, of course he'd want him at Michigan. As an NFL owner it's almost impossible to lose money. You have to try. Yet, when you're winning at a big level you can really hoard cash. The Pats, Cowboys, Steelers, Niners, etc make tons money. More on that list but you have the ones merely making profit, those making a good chunk and then a few that REALLY bring in bank. Winning does that so, as Ross, if Jim looked at him and said "tell me where to go"......I have zero doubt he'd hire him as the Miami HC. Yet, if Jim wants to come here I don't think Ross would bid against us.

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Njia

December 14th, 2014 at 10:10 AM ^

Ross has invested hundreds of millions of dollars of his own money in both the Dolphins and U-M. He knows that both are equally dependent on football operations (including wins and losses) to float the rest of the operation. However, of the two, only the Dolphins are a for-profit enterprise, owned by him, and for which he is directly responsible. At best, he has to be conflicted.

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teldar

December 14th, 2014 at 10:18 AM ^

And they suck. Or close enough. ANd have for basically 50 years. A team does NOT have to win in the NFL to make money. A tight wad owner can skate along in suckitude for generations pocketing cash, completely disregarding wins and losses.

 

 

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ghost

December 14th, 2014 at 9:16 AM ^

The NFL reporters have been an absolutely awful with regards to Harbaugh.  So he won't go to Michigan because he won't leave California, but he will go to Miami??  Also its been pretty well established that Harbaugh want's full control whereever he goes.  Ross is never going to give anyone full control and his management of the Dolphins over the years has made that crystal clear.  As a Dolphins fan it would be nice if he would, but that isn't going to happen.  The Dolphins also just hired a new GM who they aren't likely to fire.  They played a very tough schedule and next year it will be much easier with crossovers against the NFC East and AFC South.

 

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NJWolverine

December 14th, 2014 at 9:19 AM ^

I will try not to talk down on people with this post (though the heading suggests that I will).  Folks, Ross has done enough for this university.  His donations alone are enough, and he has given the university so much more than what the university has given him. 

As a businessman, Ross has to do what's in the interests of his business.  He owes nothing to Michigan or anyone else.  Did you ever consider that maybe Ross became what he is because he did not award favors, and instead insisted on quality control? 

Everyone here needs to take a step back and realize that the world does not revolve around Michigan football.  Yes, we desperately need Harbaugh but that doesn't mean he's coming, or that it would be rational for him to come. 

This will very likely not be the only expression of interest from a team outside of Oakland.  For example, I believe he will at least be considered for the Jets job (when it opens), and the Giants job (if it opens). 

We need a back-up plan, or else we may very well end up with Schiano.

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