I didnt think they looked too bad at all.
fair point that
Yes. No one on TV could read the numbers. Made us look silly.
"Made us look silly" sums up my exact feelings here. I hope UM sold close to zero of these abominations.
Trying too hard to be Oregon-uni-cool and not achieving same is a failure worse than wearing non-descript unis.
I agree with you to a point, they are not going any where. Even with a coach that probably feels like these uniforms are the equivalent of six 15 years old kids standing on his porch listening to rap music with oversized headphones and smoking menthol cigarettes and whistling at his wife, Dave Brandon and Adidas appear to be unwaivering with their vision. it is unfortunate, but I think it is time to go in the "already been talked about" category and just accept that we are those guys now.
As for the matte helmets, I actually didn't even notice the difference during the game ( which is a good thing ).
I did and they just didn't look right.
That combined with our players slipping (inadequate footwear), and not being able to see the numbers on the jerseys, it was an equipment fail in pretty much every way possible.... just bad, shabby, and mediocre, like something even the parents of Pop Warner kids would frown upon.
No one in the stands could read the numbers either.
We were in the upper deck and early in the game when the sun was on the field the only way to know who made plays was looking for dreadlocks.
The entire point of numbers on jerseys is to enable fans to distinguish the players. If the numbers aren't readable, the jersey fails at job 1.
Being a football official, I can tell you the numbers are helpful for them too.
First, I have to say I loved the alt helmets and hope to see more of them. They highlighted the defining characteristic of the Michigan uniform is a bold way. Awesome. I hope we do more of that while leaving the rest of the uniform the hell alone.
Mainly because the uniforms looked like an ugly set of pajamas a small child would wear while watching Barney. We came out looking like a bunch of kids coming up from naptime. The unis were noticeably different, which in a tradition program like ours only begs the question: Why? Why do we need the distraction? If it isn't highlighting any of our traditions or our brand (a'la the helmet), there's no need for it.
The only good that came out of those jerseys is a realization that gimicks are incredibly incredibly lame. The winning team looks cool no matter what. The losing team, when its adorned in cute Adidas pajamas, looks especially uncool.
White away jerseys with blue numbers and letters and a single Block M directly under the collar. No other embellishments (no blue collar, no Ms on the shoulders, no stripes, piping, two-tones stitching, etc.)! Standard maize pants, block M on the hip. Lastly, win the damn game. Done.
I hope DB does a metallic wing on matte helmet next year. I know that sounds like flamebait but I'm serious; drawing more attention to the winged helmet is way cool and less liable to f*** ups than alt jerseys.
The uniforms were an abomination
Back in my tennis playing days I was a fashion stud, don't ya think?
Stop doggind on Agassi!!! He's my favorite tennis player of all time, and you have to admit his fashion choices, whether good or bad, and always loud, drew attention to his career early on while he was still refining his game.
That said , we're Michigan fergodsakes, and we don't need the attention, so stop messing with the unis!
Afterall....he was a rebel.
Ill bite the bullet. The jerseys sucked. I have made several comments regarding all the new uniforms and how much I liked them. Well these last ones were bad. I was a fan until I saw them on tv yesterday. I couldnt tell who half the guys were. The numbers didnt match which made them even worse. Blue numbers woyld have been much better.
On the other hand, the helmets were sweeeeeeeet. Several of my non michigan buddies also sent me texts saying how much they liked the helmets.
Agreed - the helmets worked and the jerseys largely due to the inability to recognize the numbers were a failure.
Came to the game a bit late and at first I thought the Michigan receiver was wearing some sort of temp vest or even a no number jersey.
I get it that modern jersey trends have been about creating new looks to buzz up sales. The UTL throwbacks worked well. But the jersey and helmets have to do their original purpose - allowing spectators to ID the team and players. No one did a TV test with the jerseys out on a field otherwise it would have been obvious that the numbers would blend and bleed with the jerseys.
There are two things professed by self-proclaimed Michigan devotees who are not otherwise prone to "freakouts."
One is "winning" and the other is "tradition."
Uniformz lose on both counts. David Brandon's uniform experimentation is now officially a "losing tradition."
While I negged the OP for reasons of demonstrating my own ire, he asks a good question: "Was it WORTH the freakout?" I'll play along with that question. Was it worth it? We don't know. We don't know, because as far as I am aware, we've never been told what the Athletic Department nets out of the deal to mess around with Michigan's iconic football uniforms. How much do we really get out of jersey sales related directly to design changes? Somebody ought to know what that number is, and they ought to share it with us.
I liked the jerseys themselves.
But the yellow numbers on a white background should be saved for the next time we play in a dome, or maybe a night game. The mid-day sun was too bright and washed out the maize.
would it have been better if they did a blue or black outline of the numbers? I think that would have made the readabiliy sufficient.
matte helmets looked very nice.
No decision non-personnel related is "freakout" worthy, save blowing up the Big House or relocating campus to the moon.
Space, Bitches. Space.
Those were my favorite alternate uniforms ever! I can't do the stripe thing. But I really loved yesterdays, and the matte helmets were super cool. I once had a nice matte red nailpolish that I loved. Matte cars next! (kidding)
yea the numbers where hard to see. When Vincent Smith got steam rolled, I thought it was Denard for a few minutes
maize-ish numbers often impossible to read.
Could have worn the home jerseys.
It was in the high 70s yesterday. I don't think wearing navy blue would have been a great idea.
Completely aside from the issue of style, the main practical purpose of a jersey is to communicate clearly and immediately the number of the player who's wearing it. The fact that the numbers were hard to read is a major fail.
Combine that with the weird lemon-yellow nature of the maize and the pathetic "Oooh, the cool teams are doing matte helmets, so we have to as well," the unis sucked ass.
Freaking out? No, that's stupid, and I'm too old to lose one minute of sleep over it. Disgusted? Absolutely.
Our uniforms were not broken, but Brandon has decided they needed fixing anyhow. That's what you get when your AD comes from a marketing background.
I think this sums it up perfectly. The only thing the uniforms proved to be was a money grab.
You couldn't read the numbers at all from the stands.
Loved them. The helmets need to stay matte IMO. Look so clean.
Hope they sell minis of the helmets.
traditionalist like yourself, I find this weird. I mean, imagine, what would Harry Newman think of M wearing matte? Probably spinning in his grave.
It's my opinion. Agree with it or not, no shits are given.
Were people this upset when we first went to shiny helmets, too? Come on people, complaining about the jerseys I get (and 100% agree with), but the finish on the helmet doesn't really matter, and is bound to change over time.
they moved to plastic helmets or added face masks?
Loved the helmets, it was hard to look at the color arrangement in the Florida sun. I think the pants should of been blue.
I usually think since I'm not a 13 year old girl I don't care about the fashion but not being able to easily read the numbers was a real problem.
They were absolutely terrible. Regardless of the fact that we already had the best uniforms in sports and thusly don't need to play around with the design for a "special" game, when the game starts out with the commentators poking fun at them, you know we screwed the pooch on this one.
If you are going to be a program that emphasizes tradition, like us, then you should be traditional. This is one thing I love about Penn State. It makes no sense for us to try to compete with the Oregons of the world, when our strength is in the opposite direction. Plus, I had to stand two feet away from the television just to see the uniform numbers. And I hated the matte helmets. But at least we don't have a mascot yet.
It's all about jersey sales. How many people have a #1 jersey they still rock to games even tho there hasn't been a player who wore #1 since Braylon left? I wore my #7 until this year and only dumped it because I was afraid folks would misunderstand me as a Hawthorne fan.
Now how many people own multiple 16 jerseys? I've seen people wearing the UTL and the Bama game jerseys and actually a handful of the killer bee MSU jerseys. at 180 bucks a pop thats got to be some nice revenue
Compared to TV revenue it's spit in the ocean.
Don't see what that has to do with anything. Never saw a CEO say nah nevermind that extra $700,000 a year we already make 10 million from this part of the franchise. In fact thats a good example , Why sell 1 Denard jersey when we can sell 4.
$180 is the price for an authentic Michigan Denard Robinson 16 jersey from Mden
Here's what it has to do with anything: every time we produce another random jersey, we water down the brand. A few years ago ESPN had an unscientific poll where Michigan's football uniforms were voted the best uniforms in sports. But if you had only watched football for the past two years, you would barely be able to figure out what Michigan's "real" uniforms were. What Dave Brandon is doing is killing long-term value in the name of slightly increased short-term profits. That's something that bad CEOs do, not good ones.
I wouldn't pay $65 for a jersey. $180 is completely nuts.
"But at least we don't have a mascot yet. "
I fear that we can't avoid the Noid for long. Like, literally, the Noid.
After jumping the shark with these Outback Bowl uniforms, I am very afraid of what's coming next.
Was not impressed. The fact that the numbers were unreadable was downright laughable.
I caught the ESPN Gameday montage before kickoff that featured season highlights. I was preparing lunch for my kids, so I was't entirely focused on the TV, but a caught a clip out of hte corner of my eye that showed a UM dude (Rawls, maybe?) getting smacked hard by a 'Bama defender. Only it took me about 10 seconds to digest the fact that it was Michigan player. Two highlights later, it clicked that those were *our* uniforms. My team. And I was sad that my synapses didn't fire quick enough for me to recognize my alma mater on the gridiron.
Loved the matte helmet, hated the uniforms.
I think the jerseys would have been okay with blue numbers. The numbers were almost impossible to see unless they zoomed in on a player who happened to be standing still. If the announcers didn't say who made a play on defense, I usually had no idea who it was.
I didn't hate the helmets, but I like our normal ones better.
Also, unrelated, but my lord do I hate when they show sideline interviews during a game instead of action on the field. At one point, they were interviewing Lattimore without showing a play that happened on the field and then they never explained what happened. If I recall, it was a penalty on us. The score was 21-13 at that point fergodsakes.