Indiana is dreadful and if they had even a remotely competent D, this would have been an even bigger disaster.
The Snowflake Thread: Offense
Indiana is dreadful and if they had even a remotely competent D, this would have been an even bigger disaster.
I'm so tired of people like you.
Agreed Here2CWoodson. Miserable pricks abound.
Offense snowflake thread thought. I liked everything.
KC Wolve, bigblue1981 and a few others are awful.
My apologies for the insta-reaction and I am really happy for the guys that played but this was terrible and if RR was the coach, a lot more people than me would be saying things like this. Really happy for the win and especially Gallon.
Rich Rodriguez isn't the coach. It's time for some people to move on.
Once again style points matter more to some posters than outcomes.
Despite a multiple school record game (we've played a lot of bad teams before Indiana) I get the feeling some folks were still on the edge of their armchairs waiting for something bad to happen so they can pounce and blame it on Borges. I'm not saying we don't have still have issues, and that Indiana is a good yardstick, but for fuck's sake, just enjoy the team's success a little.
I'm very happy for the win and I should prob stay away from the board during and right after games. Also, my post didn't mention anything about a coach being fired. I am out. Enjoy the win and go blue!!!
Penn State's defense was equally awful... At the very least this gave us the all-consuming hope we desire for the rest of the season.
My apologies for the insta-reaction. Happy for the win.
You suck! Be an Ohio fan
Worse than Akron's or UConn's?
HEY EVERYONE MICHIGAN WON TODAY CAN THAT JUST BE GOOD ENOUGH???
Shut the hell up! Cry baby!
A game in which we have 751 yards of total offense and break Michigan records for passing is unacceptable.
I agree that Indiana's defense is dreadful but we did what we needed to do to win and the score shows that. I only hope that Al keeps of the variety of plays for future games. I feel after few good games he goes back to the play style we don't like. But today we needed this amazing offense and we should be good if we keep improving.
Why do people like you watch sports? You are unhappy when we lose, and unhappy with many wins. Are you just miserable for most of football season?
Here I was gearing up for my best impression and you're getting it posted from the game. Nice.
IU vs OSU should be a lot of fun to watch.
Jeremy Gallon, Devin Gardner, Devin Funchess, and All Borges.
I love all Borges too, and there's a lot of him to love.
My biggest issue with Borges is that this should have been Michigan's identity on offense all year. I know IU has a horrible defense, but this game was certainly good for our confidence. Gardner played phenomenal and Gallon is unreal.
you can't have pa without running it.
Obviously, but if you run it for negative yards over and over agian, you can use your passing game to open up the run game instead, just like the shotgun delay plays that were used today.
many people can't fathom the idea of throwing to set up the run. traditionalist only running to set up the pass.
...is something Borges is known for.
Find that video of SDSU's bowl game; tell me what you think.
Will he take us back?
Many of our runs seemed to come from the shotgun or pistol. The stretch run didn't work and we tried it a lot. Surprinsgly though after we got the interception and we needed 2 first downs to win and we kept running the ball I was getting frustrated thinking here we go again with the conservative run plays like last week. The difference is Fitz broke some runs. Overall the game plan seemed a lot better though and Devin looked good most of the time, threw good deep balls, scrambled well, although made me a little nervous when pressured, but all in all a good day.
Actually, Borges called a throw for the first down that essentially sealed the game.
I don't know how anyone can be just "OK" with the offensive gameplan. It was an A+, no questions asked.
I was critical of last week's WE WILL RUN DAMMIT game plan, and that disaster wasn't erased by today's game. That said, I was very happy with the offensive plan today. Very aggressive most of the game, and very successful. Nice game Mr. Borges.
Who gets the gameball: DG, Fitz or Gallon? All 3 had career games.
DG and Gallon, but I'm leaning to DG. His ability to buy time and make plays with his arm or leg allowed him to match and eventually beat IU (hell of a game from them, if they ever got a defense.....oh boy). I only got to it at the beginning of the 3rd Q so I might have missed earlier action, but I'd give game ball to him.
Al Borges A+
Wow is all I can say. 751 yards, 83 plays, which is good for just a smidge over nine yards per offensive snap on average. Granted, it is against the worst defense in the Big Ten, but I think I will take that. There were 248 yards of rushing, and 503 yards of passing.
Rabble rabble rabble
Eff that coach. Let's get our share of "key words" in this we and keep our count high!
We are fine!!
Al definitely knows his ass was on the line after last game. I give him props for responding to it like that. Huge game in every offensive aspect.
No it wasn't. Hoke and the people that matter have faith in him. That's only between your ears.
Well I feel like a dick after last week. Sorry Al.
Indiana or not, 751 yds and 63 pts is no joke.
All praise Al Borges
I thought Kyle Bosch did pretty well.
Saw so many good combo blocks with lewan where they put the end on the ground and then Bosch would totally seal off the linebacker. Very well done. I be the does very well in the UFR.
We are a much better spread team than power I team. I thought Borges called a great game. Honestly, I kept an eye on Magnusson and Bosch and they were good. I'm cautiously optimistc for the rest of the year. We have lots of flaws but can be very dangerous.
I think Kalis replaced Magunson in the second half
If that is the case, the coaches are smarter than me. I was mostly concerned with Bosch but thought Magnusson played well. I'm already trying to convince myself that a Braden Kalis Glasgow Bosch Mangusson line could be really good and will be toghether for at least two full years and 3 years for all except Glasgow with Kugler getting ready to play.
They rotated. I didn't catch much Magnuson, but I had 4 minuses for Kalis out of 15 plays or so. One plus. Still not ready, but we have to roll with these guys.
Bosch looked pretty good. Hard to guage, but I didn't see any obvious busts.
Also, Indiana's defense is bad.
And the O Line still looked terrible in those games. Big improvement today.
Happy for Devin, Jeremy, Borges, and the O-line.
Also happy for myself. It took just a few minutes to see what a shit storm the game thread was going to be, so I logged off and enjoyed one of the funnest Michigan games ever.
should have foregone the last TD so the punter got an extra rep against IU. WHAT IF THE PUNTER SHANKS THE BALL AGAINST MSU WITHOUT THAT EXTRA REP??!1!11!
After shitting the bed last week, it looks like Al shuffled the line some more, used a lot more passing to set up the run, spread things out a bit, etc.
I'd say he called a fantastic game against a subpar defensive team, and outscored them when he needed to.
Why does he have to be either 100% genius or moron each week.
People are pretty damn bipolar around here.
Today's game doesn't erase last week, but it sure points toward some cautious optimism for the MSU game in 2 weeks.
We put up 751 yards and 63 points against a terrible big ten defense. We did not do that against Uconn or Akron, who both have just as terrible defenses. That, to me, is an improvement. Now we just have to keep the momentum going.
Maybe I missed something but where was dileo today? He definitely didn't play. Kenny Allen was holding for kicks
Dileo held on the blocked FG.
I believe he returned (or at least caught) a punt as well.
From what I saw at the game, he was in for one KO return, one punt, and the blocked field goal. I'm guessing injury. Jeremy Jackson played in his slot spot 98% of the game.
He didn't hold any kicks after that so did he get hurt?
Ate some bad fish last night
It looks like Hoke listened to the Mgoblog contingent and brought back the richrod regime on both offense and defense.
I am confused. Is our offense good or is our defense bad now? Was it just Indiana's poor D, or a difference in offenseive strategy or both? Is our D regressing or is our D not up to handling 4 and 5 wide sets? Was O-line blocking better with this group or is it just Indiana sucks? I have many questions and no answers and wonder how we'll be against Staee.
Still, we have only one loss on the year with a very young team and Borges seems to have modified things a bit (but still needs to get rid of that horrible stretch play that always goes for -1 yard.
I think we're improving by schedme on offense but the toughest teams are yet to come.
I've said it before, I'll say it again...this team seems to play to the level of their opponents.
Exactly. We like to play our opponents game. So, the defense should be great next week and we'll be back to gnashing our teeth about the offense. However, today the offense was off the hook.
Not sure I understand all the folks saying this game shows Al was right all along. The fanbase has been screaming for basically exactly what happened today. Running from the gun, spreading guys out, letting your very talented QB and receivers play, quit telegraphing every play with your formation.
This game would seem to suggest that the fanbase was right and Borges was (previously) wrong.
Closer to 50%.
Fitz had more success than last week, but he got at least 50 of his 150 from the I, sometimes into stacked boxes. That last drive was all into stacked boxes, but we opened holes and Fitz beat the extra man.
And on a day when we passed for about 350 yards out of the I, I don't think you can say this is what you were calling for. Especially since these exact passes failed last week.
Also, no bubbles.
RR brought this particular non-noodle armed QB to Michigan.
Except the vast majority of our big plays came on the old I-form. Lot of huge play-passes out of the I. Running was better from the gun, but passing was better from under center.
Other than that, I agree with you.
the longest plays were from under center off of PA.
Or something like it. Can't believe no one has mentioned this. Heiko should get into the stat line!
That was just the regular throwback screen that Borges has always run. They PA-faked actual bubbles a couple times though.
So...Bosch and Magnusun the rest of the way? Seemed to work (forget Indiana caveats, the other O-Lines didn't work against Akron and UConn who are probably worse on defense).
offensive line snowflake thread.
I have to say, that tunnel screen to Gallon that went for big yards in teh 1st QTR- the 1st thing I thought was "FU Borges, if you'd have run that last week, 2-3 times, we win"
the 2nd thing i thought was, if we hit 1 of 2 missed FGs and don't turn the ball over twice we also win
Devin Gardner's 584 yards of total offense was one yard short of the Big Ten record of 585 set in 1980 by Illinois QB David Wilson vs Ohio State. Wilson had 621 yards passing and -36 yards rushing The Illini lost that game 49-42.
Not sure where to put this, but you gotta feel for Joey Burzinyski. A Walk-on guy finally gets his start and goes one series before getting hurt. He made a couple nice plays too. Hope he gets another shot at some point, but with so many guys in front him and now Bosch too, it'll be tough.
...but I'll bet the offense doesn't even show up next week.
I bet the defense doesn't show up either. I'd also wager Gardner doesn't have a single turnover next week. Should be a good week all around.
Complete reversal from last week. Definite improvement. Caveats apply since this was Indiana D but I think this is a sustainable offense. They have two weeks to work on it and make it even better. The defense needs to analyze what went wrong but Indiana's offense is good and plays a system that usually gives us fits. I'll take it and the bye week coming up. Much more positive feelings after this weekend's action. Keep getting better and let's see what happens.
jokingly posted in the predictions thread that Fitz would get 150 yards.
He got 152 yards and FOUR touchdowns today.
I am a genius, apparently.
...you didn't post it. So perhaps almost a genius?
was VERY impressive, I thought. Seemed to light a fire under Kalis as well. IU, etc but very promising.
How much time did kalis get? Earlier posters said he played much of second half over Magnuson while others seem to praise Magnuson. Just trying to get rough sense of how minutes were split throughout game.
I thought Magnuson was in there pretty much the whole game. I did see Kalis on a goal-line play as the extra lineman and a few more plays. I am far from certain this is correct.
I thought Magnuson, Burzynski and Bosch all looked good enough. None are likely to blow people off the ball, but they'll block the guy they are supposed and not be a liability against a pass rush. This is good enough for me in 2013.
He... he different.
I will be really interested to see how Bosch and Magnuson get graded out. I know the running offense was simplified and this was just Indiana, but they seemed to hold up rather well considering this was their first start.
Great game by the offense. I'm glad that our school record for yardage (751, set today) is now against a B1G school, whereas before it was against FCS Delaware State, which seemed a little artificial.
I thought Bosch played well. There was one play where he got beat inside but managed to pinch in enough to hold the DT off. The fact that he quickly recovered and made a block impressed me.
Playaction on first down, the draws, and just getting it to Gallon were all great strategies. And Devin broke Denard's record for total offense. Other than a few mistakes and bad throws, he was accurate and seemed comfortable.
Agreed. They had the RB baby sit him to start out on the first few pass plays, waiting in case he needed help. He generally held his own. MSU will be a tough test, and competition caveats apply here, but I definitely feel better about the OL. I didn't notice many LOL type busts or guys getting owned all that much.
Its the lack of busts that is reason for optimism. Thy blocked a lot better, but Indiana. That might not translate. That they didn't allow many free runners is the good thing, as that will translate.
than last week.
Very happy for the team.
- Beat MSU!
I have no idea what to do with the offensive side of the depth chart by class page after this week.
Is this what Oregon and Baylor feel like after every week? Man those fans must be super spoiled.
If there is a frustration after this week it is because if we run a couple of these plays last week, we are 7-0. I think this is the offense we all wanted to see all year. Please please please keep it up.
I-form runs still awful.
If I were an IU fan I'd be very unhappy. Shortly after Gallon eclipsed the 300 yard receiving mark, they decide to not cover him. At all. There was no one within 20 yards of him. What the hell were they doing?
So, great job, but IU caveats abound.
I really don't get this board, Borges this Borgees that. It's like people watch the box scores and not the game. I don't like his play calling often but he does put the players in a position to succeed. If they don't execute it's on the players.
Take a real look at this team and you'll see weak spots at every position group but as a unit they've all managed to succeed. We're 6-1 without 6-1 talent.
I came here expecting to see people raving about Magnuson, he played lights out. You just watch the first TD drive alone and you realize he was HUGE for this team. But next to nothing about him it's Borges Borges Borges. The plays worked so now he's good? That isn't how football works. The players executed so now he's good.
There was nothing wrong with the play calls last week either, the problem was us shutting it down repeatedly figuring we had a FG and a win.
Game day coaching doesn't often determine success or failure, game day execution determines success or failure. People need to stop worrying about play calls and worry about play. Worry about actual football.
Bitching about the coaches makes people sound like the guy at the bar that starts talking football with you that you immediately realize doesn't know the game.
Props to the PLAYERS but we have a lot to improve on still.
An interesting theory, marred only by the fact that it is contradicted by the evidence. Running into stacked boxes will not succeed even with excellent execution. That's what we were seeing at Penn State.
This is the money quote from you, though: "There was nothing wrong with the play calls last week either, the problem was us shutting it down repeatedly figuring we had a FG and a win." That sounds like shitty playcalling, if it was playcalling that repeatedly falsely assumed that the game was already won when, in fact, it was lost.