Should Indiana Have Slowed Down?

Submitted by WoodleyIsBeast on
Thought about this last night during their 4th quarter drive. Why not run the clock out and kick the field goal for the win? Their kicker was hitting everything, and it clearly wasn't hard to run for a first down. I know you typically go for the TD, but I was thinking I'd just slow it down, even prior to their TD. Anyone else think about that?

WolverineHistorian

November 15th, 2015 at 10:39 AM ^

When we had to kick the FG to go up 27-26, I turned to my dad and I said, I think our only hope is to let IU score so we have enough time to drive the field and tie I up.

It was an ironic, yet depressing factor that saved us. Obviously I'm happy to win but I hated that feeling of having no hope on defense ala RichRod.



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Pepto Bismol

November 15th, 2015 at 10:27 AM ^

I think they had just started slowing down when Howard broke the long TD run.  Looked like that was Indiana's plan - to drain the clock, but luckily for us, Michigan's defense was terrible.

(wait...what?)

treetown

November 15th, 2015 at 10:29 AM ^

If players could "turn it on and off" and modulate their play to subtle degrees, yes you are right, they could have limited their gashing runs to 7-11 bursts. They would keep the ball, move the sticks and basically grind up the clock and Wolverines. But having played in a certain style (FAST and FASTER) and at a certain tempo (I think in the first half they already had over 50 plays) it isn't that simple to rein the team in - it isn't what they have done all year.

what is odd is that we've seen this pairing a lot - crazy fast up tempo offense and bad defense - personally with RR and at a lot of other places. ? Is there something inherent with this approach that creates this sort of pairing?

Sideline

November 15th, 2015 at 10:52 AM ^

... I think it has to do with the defense being on the field a lot... We ended the first quarter with only 3 minutes of possession or something weird like that... They had 11 and change... But the rest of the game they drove down the field fast... We ended the game with 34(?) minutes of possession ... It seems balanced... But when 11(!) of your 25/26 comes in one quarter, you can see where the Defense would be tired

DrAwkward

November 15th, 2015 at 10:30 AM ^

Tempo was their friend. Keep playing to your strength. Going slow doesn't work if you are built for tempo. The problem was IU moved away from what worked for them when the game was on the line: Jordan Howard.

BucksSuck

November 15th, 2015 at 10:32 AM ^

Right before the Howard TD run with 3:00 left I told my wife that our best chance to win is to let them score quickly. There was no way our defense was going to stop them.

bcnihao

November 15th, 2015 at 10:33 AM ^

That could be phrased as, should Indiana have done what Hoke did at PSU, set up the game for a FG at the end?  It usually works.  But Hoke's experience--Gibbons suddenly missing multiple FGs in the multiple OT game--is a cautonary tale for "playing too conservatively."  Either way--stalling or not--it's great when it works and invites blame when it doesn't.

CorkyCole

November 15th, 2015 at 10:38 AM ^

They tried to slow down. It's hard to slow down when you allow them to get a 25 yd TD run or whatever that was. I honestly thought the game was over until we gave up the TD. We couldn't stop them, and they were about to run out the clock and kick at least a game winning FG. Did anyone else feel more confident in a victory after allowing that long TD run or was I just being irrational? I saw Rudock throw all over that Indiana defense all game and also recalled the TD drive late in the Utah game. I did not lack confidence in our offense getting it done, but I did lack confidence in our defense to keep them from scoring an easy FG or TD to prevent the loss as Indiana was driving the ball that last drive.

Code-7

November 15th, 2015 at 10:40 AM ^

I was convinced we couldn't stop them in OT and was hoping they would go for two after the first TD for the win. I'll stick to my spectator role.

CorkyCole

November 15th, 2015 at 1:24 PM ^

I first had that debate, then I thought to myself... "Do I seriously believe our defense could less likely stop their offense than Indiana's defense stop our offense? Not a fat chance. This isn't 2013 vs Ohio St." Therefore, I decided the extra point was the way to go.

Uper73

November 15th, 2015 at 10:49 AM ^

I was a bit surprised IU threw the ball late in the game. They were running at will against us. Thief OL is very good and their RB (# 8 ) is awesome. Probably the best offense we have faced all year.

I thought going in we would need at least 35 to win, cause I knew they would score. Thank God Rudock was ON. Disappointed in our run blocking.

Props to the D for coming up with some stops, but I am grateful IU chose to throw instead of run cause that really helped us.

SMart WolveFan

November 15th, 2015 at 11:05 AM ^

.....is that the play that might have most helped the Mich defense have enough left to finish this game was the punt return. If that kid doesn't take it back and they're back out there for a 2-3 minute drive that yields the TD anyway, that would've probably buried us.

snarling wolverine

November 15th, 2015 at 11:11 AM ^

I wouldn't go that far. IU had struggled in the red zone up to that point in the game, only scoring one TD and settling for three field goals. On the opening drive of the second half, we should have been fresh enough to stop them agaiin. If they only get three (or zero) points on that drive, it's a very different game. We'd then have the ball with a chance to go up two scores.

SMart WolveFan

November 15th, 2015 at 11:59 AM ^

.....I don't think I went THAT far because I used the words: craziest and might; plus, I qualified it as a 2-3 min drive that yields the TD.

Since it was because Mich's D put in all that work holding IU to FGs at the start they were already dead tired at the end of the first half, which is why they got beasted on the final drive of the first half. And many games, depending how much energy you've spent already, there isn't enough time to "catch your breath" during halftime.

The D probably got an extra 10 minutes of realtime to catch a breath and that might have been the little extra needed to make a 2OT defensive stop.

Thought it was interesting in a "butterfly effect" sort of way.

michiganman001

November 15th, 2015 at 11:06 AM ^

they ran the ball the whole time and let the play clock go down as well once they got into our territory. If Howard doesn't score on that long run, they probabaly do get a late lead, but in that case, he has to take the guarranteed points. 

Perkis-Size Me

November 15th, 2015 at 12:07 PM ^

Oh I know, not bashing the OP at all, just offering a fact.

Sure they could have slowed down. Maybe it would've helped them seal the game with a FG at the end of regulation. Or maybe they miss the kick and time runs off and they have no chance for redemption in OT. But they opted to keep pace (which I would've done too. We couldn't stop IU at all. Why give the defense a chance to catch their breath?)

They did what they did, they lost, and we won. That's really all that matters.



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jmblue

November 15th, 2015 at 11:20 AM ^

According to the game summary, IU ran eight plays in 3:38 in that drive. That's actually a fairly slow pace. If you're suggesting that their RB should have gone down on his own to preserve possession, I would say that would be a bad idea. Thry were losing, and you could always have a bad snap, penalty, or simply a missed field goal. It did help us by giving us ample time, but OTOH, if they had played for a field goal, we would have used our timeouts to give us some time, and trailing only 29-27, we would have only needed a field goal ourselves to win it. I will say I was relieved that he scored. Also that Chesson didn't score on the long catch. I wanted us to score as late as possible, and while it ended up being nerve-wracking, it worked out beautifully.

YouRFree

November 15th, 2015 at 11:23 AM ^

I think harbaugh purposely let they score a TD and have the the ball in his offense in the last drive. Not defending the 2pt is not ideal, but it's a good risk to take. even rookie NFL coach would agree that letting them score would be the best option at that point. I am sure Harbaugh knew that given our defense performance and offense performance that night. And he made a good decision.

massblue

November 15th, 2015 at 11:29 AM ^

Though they would walk to the line rather quickly, the game clock would show 2-3 seconds before they would snap the ball.  Besides they were running the ball, which also takes more time off the clock.

Frequency

November 15th, 2015 at 11:29 AM ^

They did slow down. You could tell the Indiana coaches were slowing down their sideline checks and getting the play calls in significantly slower than earlier in the game. Plus, all they were doing was running the ball. Howard just broke through the defense on the touchdown run.

Nonetheless, I don't think you can ever just play for a field goal with that much time left. You never know what can happen...

maize-blue

November 15th, 2015 at 11:30 AM ^

I don't think we let them score on purpose at the end. That defense was done,wore out. Indiana put it to them from the get go. It was absolutely painful to watch. I hope they have a better plan for OSU.

Code-7

November 15th, 2015 at 11:38 AM ^

I truly believe the absence of Glasgow was felt energy wise just as much as play making. They did look worn out but they also couldn't stop IU on several 3rd downs I'm the first half which I think demoralized them early.

PowerEye

November 15th, 2015 at 11:52 AM ^

I thought the same, but you can't fault Indiana for going for the TD. As it turned out, IU gave themselves a great chance to stop us and just couldn't do it, because Rudock went to Harbaugh's Top Gun school. We needed a set of a thousand things to go right, and they all did.

Their tactics result in the opponent scoring on 4th down with 2 seconds left in order to tie.

Michigan play of the year: Rudock becomes Maverick

During heart-attack time, on 3rd and 3 at midfield, Rudock eshews the dinky flare pass and hits Chesson on a 41 yard bomb. Rudock gets the Top Gun music for that.