Seton Hall C/F Tray Jackson grad transfers to Michigan
Jackson is a 6'10" stretch 4 who averaged 6.5 PPG and 2 RPG while playing 15 MPG for Seton Hall this year. He shot 47% from the field and 38% from 3. While it's unclear what his ceiling is especially as a grad transfer, it's clear he can contribute to this team
It's nice having a coach and general manager who understands the dynamics of free agency.
Not sure if serious...
We are well on our way...I wish I knew where and concerned I already do.
Repeating what Brian said on the WTKA segment yesterday, this team needs some actual production from the portal. So far it seems like they are adding a bunch of role players.
Feels similar to MSU Football - they add a bunch of meh transfers (except the lucky NFL RB one time) who never start or really contribute at their previous school and they think "but he has a high ceiling and was once a good recruit" or "he transferred from Georgia" but you see them play and understand why they never got much PT in the first place while MSU ends up 5-7. Michigan Football is at least bringing in multi-year starters, captains, or PFF darlings and shocker they fit right in.
Not sure who else is leaving from UM basketball's current roster and the portal shopping is far from done, but they are not going to have a bounce back year loading up on Nimari Burnetts or Tray Jacksons.
Michigan is apparently pursuing Caleb Love. With all respect to Jackson, I agree that he doesn't move the needle much. In fact, his commitment makes me lean toward thinking that it's true that scholarship limits don't matter anymore.
I am also skeptical on Love, a guy who apparently destroyed the locker room chemistry at UNC and had a worse Torvik ORTG this year than Terrence Williams! Took over 7 threes per game and made 29% of them.... not great.
If they add Love prepare for some serious ISO hero ball and frankly, that doesn't really move the excitement needle too much either.
There has been a fun discussion about whether Love is a take over at UMHoops. I lean toward yes at this point, FWIW, because I think we're in a "beggars can't be choosers" position. But I hear you.
There’s huge risk with love but he’s one of the few guys you can get with the upside to be a true difference maker. It’s a swing for the fences
Jayden Reed was their best non RB offensive player who portaled in. Jacoby Windmon was their 2nd best defensive player who portaled in as well. They got a starting tackle in Hurst (not a great player but for them a good get) Those are 3 I can think off the top of my head on top end. Maliq Carr was a decent TE, Bruhle is a decent LB. Dantoni left a pretty barren roster; most of the guys transferring out are going to MAC type programs. Juwan wasn't given a barren roster.
They have had success outside of Walker3.
The rest of your post agree with.
he can have Cheddar's minutes
And TWill's....
Yes please. I am happy the young guy can get a Michigan degree, but I find his game to be unwatchable.
Agreed, I did appreciate his role coming off of the bench two season ago, though...
I wish I could get more excited about this.
It will take more than this to replace Hunter up front, but 15 minutes per game of a role-player big is better than a 'Just a Shooter' who can't.
so basketball has just become a yearly random assembly of transfers with unknown potential and hope to god they gel together by march? I would definitely not want to coach in college basketball right now. In football picking up or losing a few transfers each year doesnt affect the team that much. Basketball is a completely different game where just one player has a huge impact on the success or decline of a team. How can any team keep consistency with such a fluid impact?
Im not surprised Beilein had enough. What a mess to manage a roster on top of trying to actually coach the team
I dont see anyway a team can stay consistent year in year out. As ridiculous as preseason projections are they are about to become even more ridiculous. March madness 2023 was a perfect example. Did anyone give Miami, FAU, San Diego State, or UCONN even a shot at making a final four preseason? the only team ranked preseason was #20 san diego state!
UConn and Miami were near the top of the “others receiving votes” (so 27th and 28th, respectively). But, yeah, Michigan being ranked in that poll (and UNC #1) shows how useless it turned out to be.
MSU has kept pretty much all their upper echelon players last few years. So no it's not like this everywhere. Reality.
/ducks
(but yes this era you have to recruit your own guys yearly which sucks)
Good depth piece. If he’s a starter we’re in trouble though. Tamar Bates still coming? If so we’re pretty much over the limit and would need either Joey not to get an extra year or Kante not to arrive.
Heard rumbling (from Seth on podcast I think) that Kante may have some admissions hurdles....
There have indeed been rumors going around of Kanye not qualifying, which would be a real cherry on top of last season.
Edit: meant Kante but I don't think Kanye would qualify either
Bates is apparently down to K-State & Missouri
People seem down on this but for reference here are Terrance Williams vs Tray Jackson's numbers per 40 minutes:
Williams: 9.2 / 8.8 / 1.3 on 39% from the field, 25% from 3, and 75% from the line
Jackson: 17.9 / 6.1 / 0.5 on 47% from the field, 38% from 3, and 70% from the line
While per 40 isn't a great metric, it could show what Jackson could be capable of with increased minutes
that is nice you are looking at averages if he played 40 minutes but if he was that good he wouldn't be averaging only 15 minutes per game.
It took injuries to force Juwan to play Reed. Im not sure coaches see what is going on sometimes. Basketball is very lacking in the money ball approach. Any coach that lets a player shoot a 26 footer because its tied and "why not we can just got to OT" loses credibility with me. Its mind numbing how often that happens.
If we are here recruiting players who are marginal improvements on TW we are in deep shit.
Sorry, I just simply can’t get excited about anything basketball related right now after the season we just had. They’re gonna need to give me some space for a few months
So you came into a thread about basketball for what reason exactly? I know you're probably being at least a little goofy but that's hilarious.
Our fanbase is quite delicate.
We still follow basketball?
My take?
- If this is a depth piece to beef up the bench? I love it!
- If he's being brought in to be the starting 4? ......Yikes
- I fear this will only make the logjam at the 4 spot even worse UNLESS there is further attrition coming.
- We're losing almost all of our scoring from last season. This doesn't really move the needle on that front
I dunno, I'm willing to let it all shake out but this seems like an odd move with so few roster spots available. Might be the reality of who is wanting to come here right now. If so, that's pretty damning.
This is about right. I watched most of Seton Hall's games this since Jackson arrived there. You don't want him starting if you want to be considered a serious team. He's a depth piece. Not bad but just so-so.
We picked up a "less worse" option at the 4. Now we have 3 players that can play only that position that youd rather not start. Yeesh.
Just watched about three minutes of Jackson's highlights.
I realize highlights are just that - highlights.
But, you couldn't put together three minutes of TWill highlights that look as promising as what I just saw.
Shoots close to 40% from 3. Has a smooth stroke. Appears at least somewhat athletic. A clear upgrade at the 4.
There's also really no reason to be worried about the scholarship situation. I'd bet a $1 that TWill will transfer...and Jace can always be taken off of scholarship, if necessary.
Need a 2 and a 3 who can create and get buckets.
I’m good with this as long as it doesn’t cut into TWill’s minutes.
Drugs are a terrible thing.
He has the most upside on the team sadly
Was hoping for a wing. We now have this guy, TWill, Cheddar, Yo-Yo and Glenn as power forwards. Kind of a head scratcher unless we are sure Kante isn’t coming and one of the other guys is trending to the portal.
As they old adage goes, when you have 4 power forwards you have no power forwards.
Like that 3 point percentage. Need to space the floor to open up driving lanes. Good depth add at the very least, especially at the 4
Michigan needs to gets some hits via the portal.
Not sure how good this kid is, but seems like he adds to a really weak 4 spot...
very interesting
Another so so band aid.
We’ve lowered the bar on the talent meter.
Hell yeah!
