Schlissel says DHS guidance won't affect UM int'l students; condemns guidance
Statement on Homeland Security policy affecting international students
July 7, 2020
At the University of Michigan, we add our voice to the many in higher education to express our strong disagreement with the temporary policy announced July 6 by the Department of Homeland Security to further restrict the educational opportunities for international students.
Based on an initial review by our International Center staff, this guidance does not conflict with the University of Michigan’s plans for fall term classes consisting of a mixture of in-person and remote classes. The guidance allows this type of hybrid model for international students studying on the Ann Arbor campus. It also allows students outside the country to take U-M classes online.
Given the poorly controlled nature of the COVID-19 pandemic in many places across our nation, institutions of higher education need to maintain flexibility in how we choose to safely deliver our curricula. Our international students must not be penalized if our best judgments dictate that we need to return to fully remote instruction.
We continue to oppose arbitrary restrictions on international students who have been and continue to be valuable members of our community of scholars. Even with this initial review that shows a less direct impact on our students, we agree with the statement from the Association of American Universities – of which U-M is a member – that calls this policy “immensely misguided and deeply cruel to the tens of thousands of international students who come to the United States every year.”
The University of Michigan is joining with our AAU colleagues and many others in business and education to further understand the impact of this new guidance and work with congressional leaders and administration officials to rescind or substantially alter this unnecessary and disruptive policy.
Mark S. Schlissel
President
Schlissel to the feds:
After seeing this I wonder what Trump's golf skills are like. What does he score? Is it similar to The Glorious Leader Kim Jong-Un and only does hole in ones?
On topic, great response from our University supporting international students. This country owes a great lot to foreign minds.
Apparently he's notorious for how much he cheats at golf
Surprise!!!
Just golf or...
Trump has a caddie (that he always uses) who is renowned for always finding Trump's ball no matter where you hit it. Almost always lying perfectly on fairways. He takes off as soon as Trump hits it even while others are teeing off.
But Trump is a good player. Good enough to be legit high single digit, low teens. Just not a 4 handicap that he carries.
Does he have a hat that can cut the heads off statues? Oops. I sure hope not now.
Both Bond and Goldfinger cheated only that match so it all evens out.
Translation: We need all these international students paying full freight tuition to fund our bloated administration and will do everything possible to keep these dollars flowing in.
Wait... you mean to tell me that the University of Michigan uses tuition money as a revenue stream to fund the school? And beyond that you are telling me the school actually wants to keep enrollment strong?
Someone find me a fainting couch while I go grab my pearls.
And this part is just unbelievable too: the University wants to attract high quality students from all over the world. Sounds like a terrible place to be. Highly intelligent and motivated young adults from every corner of the Earth, together in one place to innovate.
Breaking: University wants to let admitted students take classes as previously agreed, not get driven out of the country because a dumb person did a racist thing. News and sports at 11.
sports?! hot diggity!
Man I hate to share with you about how many U.S companies/the U.S. stock market rely on Chinese/middle Eastern country consumer spending if you think universities are the ones getting fat on international students (read: students from China and some middle Eastern countries).
I expect better from a usually clear thinker like Aristotle.
This Aristotle is an imposter!
yur god damn right
Lol leave it to liberal ass uofm to bitch passive aggressively about Trump. It’s happening to force you idiots to be open this fall.
Thanks for leaving politics out of your response.
Unfortunately that ship has sailed many moons ago. Politics rules the roost on this blog these days.
At this point I think it’s even fair to say it’s been many blue moons...
I wonder what started this issue to begin with that created this post.. Oh that's right it was our government creating this issue. Politics is now everywhere because our government wants to make everything political to divide America.. including sports if you haven't noticed. Everything is red vs blue the ultimate sports for your future. Pick a side and root for them just like you used to every weekend.
Everything is political now. It's the only way to divide. It's the Southern Strategy
the government is making it political? LMAO. They are politicians!
Just because you are a politician doesn't mean you aren't human without empathy. It seems our politician care more about making the rich richer than about the general public. So things that make less money equal bad despite sacrificing humanity and if you pay attention to multiple sources of news rather than just 1 you will realize that one party is for the rich and the other is trying to help the public in some way even if not perfect. Hence why something that shouldn't be political is now political.
I disagree that one party is good the rich. They both are. Themselves. And both parties bow to the extraordinarily wealthy.
There are a few that don't. AOC and Bernie. Pelosi tried to get repealed the part of Trump's tax code that limits SALT deductions because her ultra wealthy district members complained they pay too much taxes. That's looking or for the wealthy.
They're mostlyamostly bunch of thieves looking out for their best interests.
Teldar,
Limiting SALT tax has been the biggest negative impact to everyone in my extended family and we aren’t wealthy. We are a family of public school teachers, non-profit employees, and government workers. We carry mortgages and pay property tax in the communities we serve.
I’m sure there is truth that Pelosi herself and many in her district are set to save a lot of money by repealing the cap on SALT taxes because they are ultra wealthy. That doesn’t mean it’s the only reason it should be done.
The SALT limit is what you're going with? That was added so Republicans could give red states a bigger tax break than blue states, and deserves to be repealed.
I mean, your broader point that Democrats also protect the wealthy is valid, but you need a better example. Like how taxing capital gains the same as ordinary income is popular on the left but makes little headway because it benefits the wealthy on both sides of the political spectrum.
Wait, who's the passive aggressive one here?
I Hadn’t thought of it that way. That may be a bit rough, but it could be true, and ultimately effective.
There is certainly outrage at the policy. And rightfully so. However, perhaps those saying “the only reason for this policy is to inflict pain on immigrants” (and similar sentiments) are incorrect
This has Stephen Miller’s white nationalist fingerprints all over it. Any excuse to get foreigners out will be pursued
Funny how you are so confident in your answer that this policy is not anti-immigrants despite the track record of this gop government. From day 1 they have been trying to close borders and make it harder for immigrants to come into this country, then develop ICE holding cells for the immigrants already in this country. Now you are ok with the government to force universities' hands into opening up their campus so you could sit on your ass to watch college football this fall. All this when universities are already working together to create a safe environment for their students. Funny how conservatives were against increasing government involvement into daily matters but now it's ok cause you are afraid of spending fall weekends with the family instead of in front of a TV
And to think that pretty much everyone on this board thinks Gucci Mane is a stupid asshole.
I can’t imagine where they get that idea.
So much emotion should be put aside. I’m sure you meant to stick to the facts and comment that a smart, well educated, well intended leader with a documented history of integrity and leadership in education is calling out a guy whose “well documented” history is defined by con games and BS.
Tucci Pane got himself all wrapped up on the wrong team. "He's my president and he's gerdarm yerrs too"
The federal government funds massive amounts of scientific research. If the federal government really wanted schools to re-open, they would simply tie research funding to re-opening.
It sounds easy, but there are so many studies in progress--what to do with them?
Also the challenge that if only Liberty opens, you're throwing a shit-ton of tax dollars at a university with few researchers with the capability to do the high-level research that faculty at state universities have been trained to do. Which would be a massive waste of human expertise/productivity for political reasons.
Universities would re-open if that was the choice presented to them, full-stop. Universities rely on those grants, etc, to an incredible degree: foreswearing them would be committing institutional suicide (and also all of your grant-related faculty would leave).
You've never struck me as being a real bright person and this post cliches it.
(A) No, it has no effect on opening. (B) There's no benefit to visa restrictions to either universities or industry/our economy. Just a net loss any way you slice it.
What it does accomplish is further his culture wars causing people like you to become further entrenched in positions you can't defend with logic.
Because he has failed so spectacularly, it is his only move left. He ran out of allies even in his own party. It's desperation. It works with the low IQ folks, as he would say, but when that's all that's left of your base, then what we will see this fall is a Ronald Reagan margin of victory.
It must be so frustrating to be a traditional conservative Republican right now and see Trump decimate the party. He can't even get an endorsement from Bush.
I was a traditional Republican until I saw the error of their ways. Trump has been so much better than Bush. a obviously Obama was a travesty for the country so won’t even compare them. But Bush took way too much BS from the left. He was still vilified (as all republicans will be by the media) even though he played their games.
Wow! Feeling bad for you dude! Because there cant be much worse in life than to be someone who is easily played by Trump who in turn is easily played by Fox commentators, kiss ups, and Putin.
Honest question. Do you think Putin is involved with Trump's presidency? And if so, why do you think this?
This is sarcasm, right ?
Serious question. What has he actually accomplished that most any other republican wouldn’t have? By far, for good or bad, his biggest accomplishments have been:
1. Lowering taxes - that is pretty republican fare. Seems like any republican would have done that
2. Lots of conservative judges - once again, nothing unique to Trump
3. Beat Hilary - is Trump really the only one who could have done that?
Everything else seems like it is just lots of talk.
Biggest accomplishments are in the eye of the beholder. Few off the top of my head listed below:
- Actual criminal justice reform (first step act).
- HBC funding increases by 4X or so.
- Economy being at record highs with unemployment at record lows.
- Black and hispanic unemployment at all time lows pre COVID.
- Unemployment overall at like a 50 year low.
- With COVID, shutting down international travel very early on in the process.
- Those moves were labeled "continued xenophobia and racism."
- Lowering drug prices with more generic options available.
- Epstein and Maxwell arrested. Here's hoping Maxwell doesn't "kill herself."
- I cite this because it has been known for decades but nothing was ever done about it. When Epstein was arrested in the 2000s Trump was one of the only people to come forward to the prosecutor and offer all information he could.
- Helping bring peace to the Koreas, with both leaders citing him being a major factor in their improving relationship.
- When's the last time you heard of an ISIS terrorist attack?
- Iran deal no more.
- Embassay moved to Jerusalem.
Where are you getting your news from? Yikes.
I didn't really think there was much room for debate with what I listed, but which one(s) would you like to refute? We can each bring some points to the table and have a civilized discussion. "Yikes, you must be misinformed." doesn't do anything to further a conversation.
Only took 6 posts for you to derail this conversation, Gucci---proud of yourself? Did you migrate over here as soon as I locked the DeSean Jackson thread 40 minutes ago, determined to wreak havoc?
I'll leave this thread up for now, but continued shit-posts on this or any thread by any of those so inclined will quickly force me or other mods to lock or delete quickly.
Quite frankly, the vast majority here---myself included---are getting sick and tired of the 'same old same old' political sniping. I edited and locked one thread earlier this afternoon after the OP himself flamed his own thread in his opening post; to the credit of those participating in that thread, it didn't get deleted because the well thought-out posts heavily outweighed the shit-posts. I banned one poster there, and noted a couple more I'm going to watch closely.
The Jackson thread, though? Once again I'm first taking some notes on those who came to flame; it will remain locked and up for now but only until I finish looking through it, then it's being deleted.
I'm not at all opposed to legitimate well thought-out OT-season discussions about current affairs and the world around us. But can we please keep it civil? If the answer to that is no, then I'll act accordingly.