Sam Webb *thinks* Burke will be back, says Michigan hasn't talked to Zeigler
For those looking for a little good news this morning after the Great Exodus yesterday, Sam Webb says that he believes that Burke will come back. That's not based on any inside information, but Sam (as many of you know) usually has a pretty good feel for things. He also said that Michigan hasn't talked to Zeigler and doesn't expect them to, though he acknowledges that things can change quickly...He also said some interesting things re: Smotrycz...All of this is in the 3/22/12 "Show Open" segment.
The speculation will run wild on either side of the argument until judgement day. We went through this last year. We're seasoned veterans. Prepare for the worst and if it turns out our way, hooray. If not, at least you were prepared.
well that is wrong , sam getting bad infor lately
Oh god, not you again. Go back to the MSU boards.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:06 AM ^
DfW's comment was a reply to a comment from THE PARTY ROOM, who I am sad to say will no longer be joining us.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:16 AM ^
THE PARTY ROOM's fine work? Does it perhaps start with a B?
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:16 AM ^
HURRAY!
But maybe I really can't stand ReadYourGuard as well....? /s
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:24 AM ^
There you go again, masquerading as a South Bend resident, corrupting the truth. You can't suppress the gospel of THE PARTY ROOM. He is the voice of the people.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:26 AM ^
Now where do I get those commitment predictions and inside information??? Why, why, why???
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:36 AM ^
We must keep this information from the peasants, lest they challenge the landed gentry.
Now, BACK TO YOUR TURNIPS.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:52 AM ^
You confiscated my turnips for the war effort.
I googled "you confiscated my turnips" to see if that was a pop culture reference. This thread was the only match. Well played, sir.
^ HOOORRAAAYYYY
My read-in was that there was a little bit of restrained struggle between him and the coaches. It's a net loss for Michigan, and I really think he might have blossomed next year, but he was never going to become quick or a great defender. Can't blame him if he goes somewhere where he might start and be a straight-up shooter, as is his calling.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:11 AM ^
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:21 AM ^
who is Ryan?
March 22nd, 2012 at 12:06 PM ^
who is rvan? what does it mean when you wish someone "gooduck"? and since when do we have ballet players?
that guy has an awesome auto correct.
March 22nd, 2012 at 12:36 PM ^
Gooduck sounds like an insult against the Vietnamese.
March 22nd, 2012 at 12:34 PM ^
Evan.
He meant Evan.
Context clues, man. Also 'e' and 'r' are qwerty'd right next to each other.
Smot definitely had his moments as a perimeter shooter, and no doubt he would have had more of them. Problem was, his defense surrended just as many points. Partly that's because he was forced to cover bigs. But the problem is, as a practical matter, he's kind of a tweener: not rugged enough to handle big 4/5s not quick enough to handle speedy 3/4s.
And tempermentally he just didn't embrace the B10-ness of it all: the ruggedness, the pressure, etc. He hated it; it wore him down. I bet we'll see him go to a smaller program back East, where he'll be a better fit.
I'm getting a script error and can't listen...
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:23 AM ^
I'm also getting a script error. I'm curious what the "interesting things" Sam had to say about Smotrycz's departure were. Anyone who can listen care to share?
March 22nd, 2012 at 12:43 PM ^
Sam thinks that he wasn't happy in his role in the offense. Sam thinks that he was probably partcularly unhappy that the offense became more guard-oriented and that his minutes declined as the season went on. In case I haven't emphasized it enough, this was all just Sam's opinion.
Sam Webb already confirms what Lorenz and Jennings have told us...
PLEASE STAY BURKE. PLEASE.
so he is calling zeigler liar. great sam is at it again
Zeigler naver said Michigan contacted him. If you know otherwise, link please?
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:08 AM ^
These comments were also for THE PARTY ROOM. He will be missed.
Not my me, so much... but he will be missed.
Are you borderline illiterate?
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:01 AM ^
This might be a potential for guy Michigan.
From ESPN "Alex Oriakhi will spend his senior season with a team that has a chance to play in the NCAA tournament. The 6-foot-9, 240-pound Oriakhi will transfer from Connecticut, his father, Alex Sr., told the Hearst Connecticut Media Group."
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:02 AM ^
YES PLEASE !
Wholly SHIT BALLS!!!
In another thread I said we basically need a Nix and Lucious (minus the headache) of MSU to contend like we want...This my friends is better than Nix.
If we have 2 spots left...we need a backup PG and BIG BODY!
This is the BIG BODY! Get him and a back PG and I'll take that trade 11 times out of 10.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:13 AM ^
Our starting lineup versus OU.
PG - Trey Burke 5-11
SG - Stu Douglass 6-3
SF - Tim Hardaway Jr 6-6
SF - Zack Novak 6-4
PF - Jordan Morgan 6-8
Only 1 other player played 20+ Minutes
PF - Evan Smotrycz 6-9
IMO starting lineup next season.
PG - Trey Burke 5-11
SG - Matt Vogrich 6-5
SF - Tim Hardaway Jr 6-6
SF - Glenn Robinson III 6-7
PF - Mitch McGary 6-9
Top 3 Subs - 15-20 minute guys
SG - Nick Stauskas 6-5
PF - Jordan Morgan 6-8
PF - John Horford 6-9
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:16 AM ^
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March 22nd, 2012 at 10:24 AM ^
Morgan will start next year...is all that needs to be said
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:16 AM ^
Don't get me wrong, I really like Morgan; the kid plays hard and is a physical presence in the paint. I just don't think it is a given that he will be the starter for the majority of the season, and expect that someone making a blanket statement should back it up with some kind of analysis. Morgan is a good player, but he is very limited in what he brings to the floor and guys like McGary and Horford will challenge him for minutes.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:19 AM ^
except only one of the top 8 guys can plan point guard. We need someone to back up Trey at the point.....
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:30 AM ^
Cincinnati has not had a true PG backup the past 2 seasons (both NCAA tournament teams)...they use a combination of SGs and SFs to get them though the 10-15 minutes the starting PG is on the bench.
I could see Stauskas / Vogrich / Akunne handling 10-15 minutes of TEAM PG duties...also, what if we land a combo guard in the Spring Signing?
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:33 AM ^
It was funny to see "at the point" followed by your signature. I have no substantive contribution to this thread.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:28 AM ^
I agree for the most part but I would rather have Vogrich come off the bench. However, he could be next years version of Michael Griffin. I could live with that outcome as well.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:55 AM ^
My Prediction:
PG Burke
SG Hardaway
SF Glenn Robinson
PF McGary
C Horford
I like Vogrich coming off the bench
will start next year
You're crazy if you think Matt Vogrich is going to start...who exactly do you expect him to guard?
Then Hardaway stops defending if his shot doesn't fall...and you have a freshman SF playing PF and a freshman PF playing C?
We'd give up 70+ every game.
Morgan is going to start...the only question is who starts...Stauskas or GRIII.
April 10th, 2012 at 12:24 PM ^
I think John B. is going to start Vogrich out initially...maybe Stauskas beats him out during the season.
I think Burke and Hardaway retain their starting spots....Vogrich goes out there because he is an upperclassman that knows the system...and then you add in your 2 blue chips stars.
Indiana was a fun team to watch last year...defense wasn't their strong suit but they were a top 20 scoring team averaging 77 PPG. They had the ability to beat anybody as evidence in beating all 3 B10 co-champs and UK, NCST, ND, etc.
With Bigs like Morgan and Horford, hopefully we are a better defensive team than IU was last year but still pack a similar scoring punch.
Next year in BB is going to be a lot of fun...we'll be alright!
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:40 AM ^
I'm sure the coaches are weighing the options now that there is suddenly a scholarship available. I'm guessing they are just weighing the upside of bringing in a player who would have to sit a year, and then could play a max of 2, vs what they expect they could get if offering that to a HS player with either 4 years of eligibility, or potentially a high ceiling (a la burke)
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:15 AM ^
anyone with a "high" ceiling is a risk of going to the NBA after a year or two. See Morris, Darius and now potentially Burke, Trey.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:53 AM ^
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:48 AM ^
Trey Burke @TreyBurkeFans
@Trey_Burke3 to stay at Michigan for his Sophomore year! #everyone
his twitter doesnt say that