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Tennessee is not recruiting well just because they got 18 dudes
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I swear this was posted just the other day (yesterday?) but, for the life of me, I can't locate the thread. Can anyone help?
OT? RR on the huge show right now.
Sorry for not linking, I don't know how to do that with the app.
I was going to post the link by way of explanation but I can't find it, and it's not mentioned on the moderator action thread
EDIT: got it. http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/ot-rr-huge-show-right-now
I posted it in the RR on Huge Show thread because I can't post my own threads.
he was our coach for 3 years and did his best for michigan so i'll always root for RR. hope he does well in arizona and gives usc and oregon a run for their money.
" Can you just focus on your new job please?" - from the OP
I wish he would too. Good luck in Arizona, Rich.
This is my first forum post so I apologize if this sucks
What do you expect him to say? I mean, if you got fired and your replacement did well, wouldn't you say you would have done at least as well? It's a matter of personal and professional pride.
I mean yea, he probably could have dodged the question, but I don't blame him for feeling perhaps a little stung about seeing the guys having so much success without him. I can't say I wouldn't have wanted to say "Yea, I'd like to think I would have done just as well." It's a tough spot for anyone to be in and I am sure that this year he has felt like he had something to prove.
It is as easy as saying we are focussed on doing the best that we can in Arizona, next question please.
Yea, he definitely shouldn't have gone anywhere near that question. OTOH, is anyone surprised that Rich Rod made a blunder at a press conference? It's not like he was a calculating PR machine at Michigan, either.
That is something Hoke would say
I guess the part that bugged me enough to post was that he said "At least"
It comes across quite a bit different then it does in print.
"Sorry, mr. huge, I won't be able to be on your radio show this week. I'm a tad busy...we want to hit the ground running here in Arizona and we've got a lot of work to do."
Why is he doing radio interviews in Michigan? Is Charlie Weis on the air today in South Bend, talking about old times? The way to avoid questions like this is to avoid the situation altogether.
And in the same interview, he says that he's moved on...? Sure, bro?
Move the fuck on already...
Not sure what he was supposed to say if he truly felt he could have won ten. Everyone knows he is proud and has always shot from the hip.
Now whether or not he would have is another matter entirely, but it's not as if he sat down and introduced the subject himself. Then I could see how some could say "awww come on Rich..."
Nah not really, I think he'd have won 10.
Big Balls Brady would beg to differ.....
And what the fuck is childish about any of this?
"They've done a terrific job. You've got to give their coaches a lot of credit, but it's just frustrating for me to watch them at times, because those are all my guys. I'm happy for them. To see your kids be happy — I think that's the ultimate goal in life, isn't it? Whether it's the kids in your own family or the kids you recruit and coach. To see them be happy is the greatest thrill as a coach, and to see my kids be happy this year and win some games, it was just terrific. I'd like to have been there and shared that with them, but I think I'm in a great place right now."
The fact that this sort of thing would continue to bother Michigan fans is mind boggling.
"The fact that this sort of thing would continue to bother Michigan fans is mind boggling."
Its a Michigan article, I read it and I had thoughts about it. Sorry bro I'll consult you before I post things now
That doesn't fall in line with your sentiment? Nice.
I don't know why you find it mind boggling. Part of the fan base is fixated on the "lack of support", RR received in AA. Another portion of the fan base is fixated on the horrible coaching job done by RR and his staff in regards to defense and special teams. Both sides are correct, and when you bring them together in a thread mayhem ensues.
Not sure what everyone expects.
"Gee, I NEVER would have been that good there"
"10 games? Pfffft. I would have won 15 games this year."
That's what each half of a dumb and really-should-be-dead debate expects.
It's OVER. We moved on. RR moved on. Hopefully that's best for everyone.
If RR has moved on, why does he keep talking about Michigan?
He answered the questions he was asked. Could he have answered better, sure. BUT you know you're baiting the anti-RR contingent with that post.
And he chose to do the interview with Huge. He also chose to complain the other day, while talking to the AZ press, that he had nothing but walk-on QBs when he came to Michigan. How can anyone argue that this man has moved on? Heck, I'm not sure he's ever gotten over the WVU stuff.
Regardless of how any of us feel about RR, I think we can pretty much all agree on one thing: he is too thin-skinned. He lets criticism get to him and then tries to excuse himself, which only makes things worse.
Nobody likes to get their head handed to them.
that is true. RRod is also a narcissist suffering from an inferiority complex.
They are all ego-maniacs if they weren't they wouldn't take the high profile multi-million dollar jobs. See Urban Meyer, Nick Saban etc.
They're not all egomaniacs. Brady Hoke isn't.
Says all this great stuff about missing his players. Talking about kids being happy being the ulitmate thing in life. Talking about it being your greatest thrill. Just awesome quote and from the heart you can tell he believes it.
Then misses has a poor choice of words. " I would have won at least...."
Everyone jumps on that part thus ignoring the awesome first part.
Thats just RR media relations in nutshell.
Sorry, Rich, I wanted you to succeed here, but I can't see how you could have done it, barring a number of miracles: you firing your defense and special teams staff and hiring all the right replacements, who would be willing to take a chance on a one-and-done and improve an abysmal defense into a top one.
which I took to be "I have confidence in the players I recruited" and not "I could have done better than Hoke", he was quick to add that things would have to play out right for that record to happen.
Why did he do the interview? Who the hell knows? Maybe he wanted the chance to congratulate the coaches on the season, which he did on more than one occasion. Maybe he wanted the chance to mention how he still cared about the players he brought to Michigan and is proud of their accomplishments. I doubt it was for the chance to talk about what he thought the record would have been had he stayed, but the question was asked, and he answered it with the way he felt.
Of course, the mouth breathers preferred to assume the worst..... and run RR down, partly because of this belief that RR was being condescending in that interview, and largely because they feel they deserved better than the results of the past three seasons. Yes, those years sucked and, for a variety of reasons, Michigan and RR were a terrible combination. But you can't say that RR didn't care about his players and you can't say that he didn't want to succeed.
The responses in this thread as well as the previous one define the reason that we are one of the most hated fan bases. Every top program has hit a rough patch in recent years, but when it happens to us, how do we react? We OVER react. We become bitter and irrationale........ because we are entitled.
Commence labelling this as flamebait......
I'm hoping you were being deliberately ironic. Talk about bitter and irrational...
6-6 or 7-5 again.
the interview didn't go down like:
Huge: "Hey, Rich think you could have won 10 games at Michigan, like Coach Hoke"
RR: "Sure, 10 plus games."
Huge: "Wow, you think you would have had that good of a year, with your staff?"
RR: "Oh, you ment all of them in this year? OK, nevermind. How about them Wildcats? Hey, why not us? Boy does Rita make a mean Nacho dip..."
-5 last time I checked. But hey, I'm a science major, not a math major
The only chance he had at winning 10 would have involved him firing every coach on the defensive side of the ball, which he obviously wouldn't have done because some of them are with him in Arizona now.
Don't forget whatever magic was employed to make Gibbons believe in himself enough to allow for a few field goals this year.
In one we gave up 34 points to a true freshman QB and our universally praised DC got outfoxed by a guy just about every OSU fan wants to see get canned.
In the other we gave up 31 points to a team that twice dropped the ball and handed it to us without making contact with a Michigan defender first. Two weeks later that same team was held to 15 points by a staff with all those guys Rodriguez just hired at Arizona.
Interesting that Pitt did so well against ND defensively. I never made that connection that Gibson somehow managed to stop ND, but he did.
I'm not sure where you're going with this, but if you're going to compare giving up 34 to Ohio State and 31 to Notre Dame with some of the things that happened last year...this is not going to end well.
That's because the rest of our wins were curb stompings. Something we couldn't come close to doing against Illinois, Purdue, or Indiana last year (not to mention ND), no more teams with a pulse like Nebraska.
Look at Michigan's B1G record last year. Of eight games played Michigan gave up 34 points or more in seven. Hells bells, Michigan could have given up as many points to OSU this year as they did last year with one major difference, this year Michigan still wins the game.
No sir, RR should have STFU and left well enough alone. Praising the squad, great. Praising the new coaching staff, very big of him. But then to qualify the current coaching staff's success as measured by what he could have done...childish.
Three years ago RRod was quoting Saint Bobby about losing big, then losing close, then winning close. This year, Hoke's first year, he said "Fuck that losing crap, we're going to win".
"why not Arizona?!"
He made stupid comments similar to that ever since he stepped foot in Ann Arbor! "The cupboard was bare", "Vince Lombardi.......", "You raise me up". I did feel somewhat bad for him, but now..... Nope!
Funny, I felt sorry for him all the way up to the Penn State game last year. Then I started feeling sorry for us.
THIS! The margin of victory actually got worse from 2009 to 2010.
Dude just won't fricking die...
But I would've won 12. Really.
I have a ballsy aunt I'd name DC...
in a round hole is what he was. Too bad for him, it was never going to work "M politically" and for that I felt bad. Thankfully he will continue to open his mouth like this little burp and make me feel better.
Also makes me appreciate every respectfully chosen word that comes from Hoke's lips.
It was a crappy question, and he shouldn't have answered it. He should have just said something like "I'm focused on winning games at Arizona" and left it at that. Don't you think Hoke would have dodged it?
The guy is really in no place to be predicting 10+ seasons at Michigan. The last time we saw him coaching, he was losing 52-10 against a mediocre Mississippi State team. In saying that he would have won over ten games, it made him sound arrogant and maybe a little bit delusional. However, admitting that he wouldn't have done as good of a job as Hoke would be admitting that Hoke is a better coach than he was. He just should have ignored it as almost every coach would have. The Huge Show guy was just trying to get a headline at Rich Rod's expense. He succeeded.
Thank God we've got a guy who responds to questions like that in "TREMENDOUS, toughness, MANBALL, deflect credit, POINT".
Not commenting on the first 85% of your post, but we really need a Brady Hoke presser flowchart here on MGoBlog. That has the potential of being an epic thread.
EPIC DOUBLE POINT
Fake field goal.
Go for it on 4th down.
Go for it on 4th down because going up 17 isn't enough, you have to go up 21 because THIS IS MICHIGAN FERGODSAKES.
Again THIS IS MICHIGAN
Talk about "feeling" offensive/defensive linemen.
"He had a boo-boo"
We gotta play Michigan football
Hilariously pretend you're afraid of EMU.
Self deprecating joke about modern slang.
Hearing a team practice.
Physicality (soon to be in Webster's)
It's all for the kids
I'm just a DL coach
Have to earn it every day in practice
Pure and beautiful coach speak.
Something about Navy SEALs.
"They like each other, they respect each other"
Won't wear red...
Willingness to walk thousands of miles for Head Coaching position...
he won 7 games with MM and Touissant injured and without Ryan, Countess or Morgan, playing a much tougher schedule.
We don't have any idea how Ryan, Countess or Morgan would have played under RR. And were MM and Toussaint still injured at the time of the bowl game?
FT started the game but just had 2 carries for 5 yards in the Gator Bowl. (He also caught a 5 yard pass). I don't think he was ever healthy for an extended period of tiome before this year.
MM never recovered after Sparty's cheap shot. His ankles bothered him the rest of the year. He had no tackles and just one assist.
Are you suggesting that our defensive problems last year were due to Martin's injury? Those stellar performances against UMass and Indiana occurred before that.
Do you doubt that some of our defensive problems were because of Martin's injuries? Obviously there was more to it than that but it was one of the many little things that added up.
Martin didn't get hurt until week 6. The UMass and Indiana debacles occurred before his ankle injury. So no, it wasn't the principal factor. Besides, he was healthy enough to play in all 13 games. He never missed any time. He may not have been 100%, but that's football.
I'd say the number one factor, by a country mile, was horribly inept defensive coaching. RR insisted on a scheme he didn't even understand. GERG didn't understand it either. None of the position coaches had any clue what they were doing, and talent evaluation and placement was dreadful.
hilarious. All we heard in 2010 was "What do you expect from this defense, they're so young." Now the excuse is ... wait for it ... RR didn't have 3 more freshman on his defense? Can someone just pick an excuse and stick with it.
As for the interview, this is the problem with RR in a nutshell. He probably should have avoided the interview, and he definitely should have ducked the question. he could have said "I am really proud of the players, and thought Coach hoke did a great job with them. Wish I had that opportunity, but I'm excited about coaching in Arizona now"
It's easy and non-controversial. But he simply us unable to do it, and will continue to make these blunders. Until he realizes he doesn't have to answer every question, and say everything that pops into his head, he's going to be a pr disaster.
Rodriguez inherited a disaster from LC and steadily rebuilt the team into a winner last year. I would have expected further improvement this year to at least 9 wins. With the benefit of hindsight - seeing how pathetically weak the Big Ten was this year - I'm confident RR would have won at least 10 games this year. Also, don't forget that Michigan lost several great players he recruited after he was fired: Dee Hart, Kris Frost and Jake Fisher. And that's if he had kept his old staff. There was a lot of speculation that Brandon would insist on a defensive coaching change as a condition of RR remaining.
When he was fired. They were already committed to someone else. If you want to say "if the season didn't suck at the end, we'd have had them", then sure.
And considering the make-up of the Arizona staff, what makes you think Rich was willing to fire anybody?
Hart decommitted on January 2, 2011, Frost left on January 19. Fisher committed to Oregon in February. See http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/calling-tomvh-jake-fisher.
RR was fired on January 5th.
every post that could even be considered mildly defending RR. All you did is present the facts and you get flamed, that's ridiculous.
Some of the new blood around here needs to get a grip and realize that people can have a different opinion than you and it is not wrong, flamebait or trolling.
Hart was the 2nd, and when Rich was still the coach. And the link you post says in the first sentence -
This move has been rumored for a few weeks, and has now come to fruition.
So he was rumored to leave well before the bowl, and had committed, decommitted, committed again, and basically gone around in circles.
Kris Frost all but waited for an Auburn scholarship to open up. He couldn't "leave", because he was never a sure thing. His parents wanted him to go to Michigan; he didn't.
Fisher might be a case, but the other lineman who ended up at Penn State left before the bowl was even played. There was not a max decommit or exodus when he was fired. If anything, they started jumping hsip when they saw the season was going to hell. And the bowl was the final nail.
It's just this claim that he had this amazing recruiting class coming in if he had just been retained is rewriting history. Most were getting shakey well before the season ended. This borad had weekly parties and meltdowns on Hart flip-flopping. Most didn't not come because Rich was fired. Most didn't come because the end of the season looked like a program headed for disaster, which would cause the coach to get fired. If Rich had the #1 recruiting class signed, sealed, and delivered coming in, he'd probably still have his job, because they wouldn't want to risk losing it and have given him a 4th year. But keep dreaming that it was all set up that way.
completely glosses over the disaster of the defense in 2010, and the blame that was put on being "too young." The idea that these freshman would suddenly make a difference under RR, when previous freshman struggled to the point of disaster, is belied by the facts.
I would also point out that while wins increased from 2009 to 2010, the kicking game and defense got worse. If your expecting things to continue on a trend, did you expect them to further degenerate as well?
We will never know what would happen under RR with this team, but i think we can say with certainty that more defensive freshman would have made a difference for his team. It didn't in the past, not sure why you would expect it to make such a difference in the future.
Michigan lost 52-14 (not 52-10). That was the worst game I've ever been to.....don't make it any worse. I'm glad that Brady Hoke is in Ann Arbor.
Just don't forget to save some of the piss and vinegar for the MSU threads as well!
10 Games with GERG?!?! and Gibson? Highly doubtful.
Should he have said, "Nah, those kids stink. I hate them and I wish them bad fortune?"
I think he answered it well.
He should have broken into a chorus of "You're still you". That would have brought the house down.
"Where is that damned nacho dip? Did you take it Tate? BOY!!!!!" *grabs Tate Forcier by the neck in classic Homer/Bart pose and begins to oscillate rapidly*
"Dont have a cow, man" Tate replies, pulling his signature hoodie up over his head.
"Doh!" RichRod responds as he realizes that the whole world is watching. RR puts him down and goes back to the business of destroying everything he touches. Hilarity ensues.
Someone was having fun with the moderation button on this thread.
It takes a little of bit of defense RR to win in the Big 10. Ever heard of defense Rich?
Well ya but only if Vince Lombardi was coaching the D.
Sorry for the interruption but I have to tell you that EVERY time you post something I have to look twice to see if it's our esteemed leader inside the thread. Your avitar and his are the same colors and upon a quick glance look a lot alike.
You may now resume the RR discussion as normally planned. That is all.
sideline magic kicks in the second year, and is worth 6 wins alone. Everyone knows that.
Our ceiling was 7 wins last season....while our floor was 3-4 wins. This year, our ceiling was 12(so far), while our floor was 8. Dodge the question or say, "We certainly would have worked hard enough to help them reach their potential.." or some crap like that. But to go out and say that one more year of your coaching would have created this miraculous turnaround is just disrespectful to the amazing jobs our current coaches have done.
He was saying before Brady Hoke coached his first game here that this was going to be the year where his offense came together and Michigan was going to compete for the B1G championship. It wasn't disrespectful then because Coach Hoke hadn't established his 10-2 season yet.. The reason it seems so now is because it seems he is comparing himself to the current coach. He is really just saying what he believed all along -- even before Brady Hoke got here.
I believe it is possible because we had a friendly schedule with 8 home games, but the scores would have been like basketball games.
I think about 50% of people here have Stockholm Syndrome. 15-22 but atleast we didn't get in trouble with the NCAA, oh wait that happened too. All other matrix are irrelevant. Sounds like a bunch of beaten wives who deserve that one or three year slap but really love him or are we the Fighting Patty Hearsts?
I don't understand people like you. RR didn't work out; he's gone. Comparing him to a wife beater or kidnapper is way out of line.
I'll bet any amount of money that there isn't a reader on this site who has worked harder for Michigan football than RIch Rodriguez. Moeller, Carr, Martin or Brandon, sorry if you're reading this, as you're the only living exceptions I can think of. A former Wolverine head coach deserves a hell of a lot better than to be compared to felons. Get some class.
Edit: and of course Hoke.
Can someone help this man on the way to Bolivian?
Actually, if you listen to the entire interview and take the comments in context, they are exactly what you would want a coach to say. He gave credit to the current staff, but was also sure to state his opinion on what he could have done and why.
Huge gave RR plenty of chances to dump on Michigan, but he stayed classy. Sorta like the OP could have done, but didn't.
Just to clarify:
Would those ten games RR would have won--make that AT LEAST ten games--WITH Greg Robinson still running the D?
EDIT-Wise move to delete that rubbish or thank you to the mods for being wiser than you were.
Rich Rod needs help with public relations. He took a shot at WVU in regards to leaving the Big East and ignoring the 24 month notice rule. He then takes a shot at Dave Brandon during his introduction press conference at Arizona. Nobody knows how many games he would have won this season, but for him to publically say that is bush league.
is an ass and his tenure here was a failure and there are some within who deserve as much blame but he produced nothing in three years except a whizbang offense who only scored 67 once. Also he wouldn't have won more than 7 games. DB was right.
Did you really think this needed to be posted again?
There is no excuse to piss on his grave like that.
Hey, RR might not be dead! I heard he escaped the bare cupboard and the Angry Michigan Secondary Hating Gods and Lloyd Carr and David Brandon and now he's somewhere sunny out west with all his friends! How do you like that?
Exhibit A- This thread.
RR is one of the nicest coachesI have ever met. Did you ever talk to him/ meet him? Things did not work out, okay we get it.
his picks of DCs. Fat chance RR wins 8 games if he would have been here. The defense would have still sucked under him b/c of that stupid 3-3-5. I don't really want to get into it, but RR was a bad fit and it didn't work, OK.
It's OVER! LET IT GO! Please concentrate on Arizona. I want to root for you to win, but you're making it very difficult. Anymore dumb statements like those in the article and I will not be rooting for you to succeed and I'll have to find a new second-favorite team.
why some people still think that on Rich Rod's third shot-in-the-dark on hiring a defensive coordinator, he would have gotten it right. Not to mention, he was the one who insisted on running the "MOTHER F-ING 3-3-5," so many of his problems on the defensive side of the ball were largely his own doing (which is a given I guess, since as head coach you are always responsible for the entire team's performance).
But really, we need to get over this. It's the past. We are in the Sugar Bowl, shouldn't we be focusing more on that?
Naw, the Sugar Bowl is a few weeks away. Plus, the Sugar Bowl reminds us of the Gator Bowl, where Rich Rod's fate was finally sealed. Remember the post-MSU bye week where we didn't do anything except for complain about Borges and talk about MSU and stuff? This is like that, only happier.
and his Keystone Cops defensive staff. 8 games tops and 7 more probable. RR needs to stop being a drama queen and focus on his new job. Every day I thank the Lord for Brady Hoke and his classy, low key way of dealing with everything that comes his way.
This interview points to two things (1) People will still continue to misinterpret/overreact at RR's honesty and (2) RR didn't learn from his previous PR disasters at Michigan on how to speak to the media.
I know he felt he could have won at least 10 games here, but by admitting that in the interview he's not doing anyone any favors, least of all himself. My reaction to that admission was basically "Um...ok?"
It's a sad world where brutal honesty with the media gets blown out of proportion. But it is what it is...and if RR still hasn't learned that yet then it's better that he's gone.
He could have answered the question better by saying something along the lines of "Well, it's impossible to predict how many wins we would have gotten, but I was fully confident that we were on the right track to contend for the Big Ten title this year. " This way he's not making any weird direct comparisons to what Michigan did this year versus what he thought he could have done.
Because that entire second paragraph was really a classy answer, they he was happy to see that his former players were having success and were happy. That the new coaches have done a good job. But what's everyone focuising on here? The 10-win comment. Sound familiar? Kinda like the"Get a life" thing. Brutal honesty just doesn't work well in the media...you really have to carefully consider any repurcussions and consequences of what you say and how it may be interpreted. I'm disappointed that RR still struggles with this part after all he went through here.
but then I decided to do what RichRod should have done:
Seems pretty bland to me...hardly anything to be offended at
Stop being so reasonable!
He is a head coach with confidence. Of course he should 'think' he can get to 10 wins with his boys if Hoke can. Why shouldn't he 'think' that?
Are too different words and worlds of difference in the world of trod
I don't think RR would have got to 10 wins, but technically I'll never know. I certainly won't begrudge a head coach for confidence.
Maybe because it took him the better part of three cumulative years to win that many games the first time around?
First mistake Rod made: Going on the Huge Show.
And he took zero responsibilty for the D
Just to give a bit more of context for those who don't check the link, he said he would've won 10 games at least, and then continued:
That's being confident and a lot of things going the right way, and certainly we had to make a few changes, needed alterations and had to play better defensively.
They've done a terrific job. You've got to give their coaches a lot of credit, but it's just frustrating for me to watch them at times, because those are all my guys. I'm happy for them. To see your kids be happy — I think that's the ultimate goal in life, isn't it? Whether it's the kids in your own family or the kids you recruit and coach. To see them be happy is the greatest thrill as a coach, and to see my kids be happy this year and win some games, it was just terrific. I'd like to have been there and shared that with them, but I think I'm in a great place right now.
I don't really see anything in all that to be indignant about.
Seriously, anyone offended by what he actually said (as opposed to what was either posted or guessed) needs to reconsider. Admitted he would need better defense and some breaks, and it is being confident, but he is happy for his former players and wishes he could have shared their happiness. Not much to get upset over there.
If I ran this team I promise all of you we would have won every game. I would have kept the D n shit just like Rich Rod would have. I just know with my increase in spread plays we would have put up the 60+ points a game needed. There is no doubt in my mind we would be playing LSU! We all saw the huge improvement in the team's play over the Rod years. There is no doubt Rich Rod out recruited Llyod Carr. The top 5 rankings Carr got were not as valuable as Rich Rods 25th ranking in recruits. Wake up people! Just ask Rich Rod and he will tell you.
I don't coach should be his new mantra.
RR would have had to hire another new defensive co-ord, 3 in 4 years and his D would likely not have ever stopped ND or OSU and I seriously doubt NW or Nebraska.
Seriously, derpidy, derp, derp.
I'm now in the camp that believe RR didn't get it, never will and is really just a terrible head coach with a great offensive scheme.
"I'd like to think in four or five years we'll have this (Arizona) program where we want it to be and we'll be in the same conversations as the top football programs in the country."
You WOULD like to think that. Saying stupid sh*t like this just because you think you're supposed to vexes me. We should have known better when he agreed to screw his alma mater over or better yet when his undefeated team lost at home to Pittsburgh in the last game of the season.
Ready to move on.
and crying? Both he and the media need to just let this go. He doesn't coach here anymore and his record when he did coach here sucked ass. He caught a number of bad breaks, but really, who the fuck cares what he thinks? A large portion of the posters here who still cry themselves to sleep at night because they have convinced themselves that RR was the greatest head coach in the history of the world, I guess.
I like RR. He needs some PR lessons.
He definitely would have won ten games.
Might have taken him two years, though.
the question and gave a too honest answer points to his ignorance in being an effective CEO of a major college football program. He's a great offensive coordinator.
Looks like RRod hasn't changed a bit...always handling the media's questions in the right fashion.
I take no issue with what he said. I don't think he was trying to take anything away from the Hoke, he was saying the exact same thing he said when he left: that if we kept him he would win more games! He has been saying that since before he got fired.
RR is a good d.c., not coach.His staff sucks balls and his recruiting is average at best.I think he would have won 10 games at Michigan, for evry 20 games played.Glad he is gone.Worst coach here EVER.Let's stop talking about that hillbilly.
I don't blame him for thinking he could have won "at least" ten games. But at some point he needs to realize he ain't at West Virginia anymore where he was up on a pedastal so high, he could say "I love shit sandwhiches" and the next question would be asking for the recipe. Outside that kind of relationship/environment, head coaches at major universities need to treat their press conferences and interviews like successful politicians and never take the bait on loaded questions.
Fair or not, people are going to focus on the idiotic statement. The solution is not, as some would have it here, to rail against people for noticing the idiotic statement, it's to stop making idiotic statements. I asked a friend once, who is editor for a local newspaper, why the press doesn't do more positive news--why they always seem to focus on what went wrong. He used the analogy of the way we would focus on a car with a flat tire. We don't pay attention to the fully inflated tires--they are the norm, what is expected. RR's claim about his winning at least ten games was his flat tire. All the positive stuff he said is what he should have said. We shouldn't blame people for noticing the flat tire.
Great job, people. The only thing missing from this thread is Section 1. But a solid A-, nonetheless.
Section 1's head would seriously explode if he came near this thread. Dude's mom would be scraping brain particulates off of his Grobin poster.
An entirely predictable, perfect waste of time. I see you posted several times.
For anyone who thinks that the RR loyalists are the delirious weirdos and the RR grave pissers are the rational ones, I respectfully disagree and offer this thread as exhibit A.
Personal message to jmblue: I used to think you were kind of a dick. But you have been so outflanked by some spittle-flecked loonies who ostensibly agree with you that I take that back 100 times over. You are a reasonable, sensible person who contributes to rational discourse on this here blog.
Your D benefitted from playing shitty Big 10 offenses. I will acknowledge the fact it is Better than last years (couldn't of been worse really)but it wasn't. As good as the stats made it look.