BroadneckBlue21

December 29th, 2020 at 6:19 PM ^

Players declaring for the draft is typical. Players transferring is also normal. These will happen no matter if the team culture is good, great, or garbage. It isn’t garbage or else they would not continue to have many players come back and many good recruits sign. 
 

Did the team suck this year? Fuck yeah. Is this a clue as to why—no.

UMxWolverines

December 29th, 2020 at 8:11 PM ^

It isn't normal to have so many players leave early that won't be picked until later rounds or not at all no matter how many times you say it. 

Higdon wasn't drafted, McGrone won't be drafted, Chris Evans won't be drafted, DPJ wasn't drafted until the 6th round. It absolutely plays a role in why we have to have players play before they're ready every year and why we can't build a team on experience like Wisconsin. 

Mayfield is out, Ambry Thomas opted out, Nico opted out, Dylan McCaffrey didn't even think enough of the team/coaches to play yet he stayed on campus. 

Blue@LSU

December 29th, 2020 at 11:06 PM ^

You just don't get it, do you? People leave for a number of reasons. Some want to make money, some think they're ready even though it would perhaps be best to stick around for another year and, sure, others leave because they don't like the coaches. You are lumping all of these into the last basket even though both you and I know it's bullshit because you have no way of knowing whether it is actually the case.

This whole "Compare the list of guys who have chosen to come back vs leave early since 2016" is bullshit as well. Who are we comparing? Does it include people like Mason, Paye, or Kemp, not to mention people like Hutchinson, Nico, and Ambry etc. All of them could have left and either been drafted or became UDFAs if they hated the coaching staff so much.

But if you still want to play this game, we can. You name someone who left early and I'll follow with an upperclassman who stayed. It won't turn out like you expect. Ready...Set...Go! 

jmblue

December 29th, 2020 at 9:17 PM ^

FSU and South Carolina were one-score games where we led in the 4th quarter, and Bama was close until the fourth quarter.  The only real blowout in a bowl was to Florida.  We're fairly unlucky to be 1-4 in bowls under Harbaugh.

The last two OSU games were indeed ugly, and I'm happy that we're going in a new direction defensively.

Blue@LSU

December 29th, 2020 at 6:16 PM ^

So we should just ignore people like Hutch (this year) or Nico (last year) deciding to stay with the program and the coaches? I just don't see how Nordin's decision to leave is such a stain on this coaching staff but Hutchinson's decision to stay means nothing.