Purdue's Brohm: Hit on Speight was a clean play

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That's what he said on the weekly B1G coaches' teleconference. From Aaron McMann at MLive:

"I didn't see anything egregious about it," Brohm said Tuesday on the Big Ten coaches teleconference. "I thought he made the tackle. I don't think there was a penalty called on it, was there?"...

"Yeah," Brohm said, when asked if it was a clean play. "From my standpoint, that's what it looked like."

Brohm also dismissed the locker-room talk:

"I can tell ya, a lot of visiting locker rooms across the country, it's not like your changing at the Marriott hotel," Brohm said. "They're normal locker rooms that definitely don't have a lot of the frills that you'd love to have, but it's a visiting locker room, you take it for what it's worth and you deal with it."

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crg

September 26th, 2017 at 9:01 PM ^

I get the impression that Brohm might try to turn this into a personality rivalry to build up Purdue's intensity within the conference - kind of like what Chris Ash tried to do but probably with greater success (since Purdue can actually play football).

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Firstbase

September 26th, 2017 at 9:59 PM ^

...when I view the replay at actual speed, it doesn't look that late to me. Yes, Speight was down, but the Purdue player's momentum carries him into him under 1/2 second after he's first hit. To me, it was an unfortunate second hit with Speight sitting in an awkward position. 

I honestly feel if Speight had bounced up after the play, no one would be questioning a late hit scenario. 

 

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Mr. Yost

September 27th, 2017 at 12:42 AM ^

I don't think it's a late hit either...if it is, Michigan's had a TON of those this year.

MY PROBLEM is that he was intentionally being negligent and reckless by not making any attempt to avoid a QB who's on the ground with his back turned away from him. He could've jumped over or to the side of Speight. He could've reached out and lessened the blow.

He purposely, IMO, allowed himself to dive into the back of Speight and let all of his weight fall on Wilton's head and neck without making any attempt to avoid the contact.

...go back and look at Winovich's hit on Zaire (which wasn't even late, but it just stands out in my mind). Zaire is facing WInovich and Chase makes a clean hit, basically wrapping his legs. He doesn't lunge at Malik's head like that douchebag at Purdue did in the 4th quarter. He doesn't dive at the back of someone already on the ground. He doesn't even hit him late from the front where he sees him coming. I recall Gary having a big hit in the Cincinnati game as well. Same thing. Legal, from the front. Football.

This was a dirty play and a cheap shot. It could've been avoided or at the least...there could've been a lot less contact.

If Wilton is standing, facing him, and he lazily puts his shoulder into Wilton's chest and let's his momentum carry Wilton to the ground when he still could probably pull up? I don't say a word.

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MCalibur

September 27th, 2017 at 1:33 PM ^

Targeting and Late Hit are two different things. Sometimes they occur together, sometimes they dont. This was undoubtedly targeting, and it does look like it was intentional to me.

Brohm is in a tough spot because he should try to back his player but this statement all but condones the approach. Basically "its only drty if you get caught." That's a bad look on him. Maybe somehting like "it was a bang-bang play and I dont think our guys were trying to hurt Speight. We hope he makes a speedy recovery." Boom we better IMO

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LSA84

September 27th, 2017 at 1:21 AM ^

At the time, I was away from home and listening on radio live stream.  Brandy and Dierdorf made it sound like a horrible late hit, and I was appalled at there being no flag.  But when I got home and saw it on replay, I did not think it was that bad.  It seemed like the momentum of the second defender carried him on to Wilton, and it was a reasonable no-call (and the complete opposite of what happened with Joe Bolden in the Sparty game 2 years ago when there clearly was no foul).

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SWFLWolverine

September 27th, 2017 at 7:43 AM ^

to me it looks like from one of the replay angles that the player locks his vision onto Speight on the ground, then proceeded to bellyflop onto Speight with all his weight. He did not have that much weight going forward. When I saw it live I felt it was late, obviously Angelique thought it was a late hit when she asked Harbaugh about it in the post-game press conference. It was a dirty play. I'm not sure I agree with the sentiments that he was attempting a head to head blow, as a fellow fat guy, I think his intent was to land on him with all his weight.

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LSA84

September 27th, 2017 at 10:57 AM ^

That's a fair perspective, especially when viewing it on replay, so I can see it that way as well.  But in the in the "heat of the moment", I can see a ref calling it either way.  While I agree with the Honorable Mr. Harbaugh 99% of the time, this one didn't strike me as egregious.  

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war-dawg69

September 27th, 2017 at 3:00 AM ^

Are you fuckin kidding me?. I knew it was dirty the instant I saw it. Speight is on the freakin ground when he hit him. He changed his angle, targeted the back and head of Speight and delivered the blow. If this was the nfl this fuckin puke would be fined and suspended. Period!!. As far as Brohm goes, I allready made comments about this guy, before he ever ran his suck. The guy is a complete asshole, coaches his players in a wrong way and that is why you are seeing his players with late and dirty hits. I was absolutely amazed Harbaugh did not lose his mind with the hit on Speight, but the thing is he did not see it. With Harbaugh on the field with Speight being hurt, he would have ripped that ref a new one.

This team (purdue) will continue to rack up targeting calls and late hits because of the pile of shit coaching this team. I saw the rant and shit that coach was saying before the game and knew what this guy is all about. He is going nowhere and either is his team. This clown will burn out or just flat out become a liability. I am willing to call it both ways with coaches in the west. Wisconsin's coach and Nebraska's reek of class and just are straight up good dudes. Make no mistake, Jim Harbaugh does not like Brohm allready and I believe his comments are being fueled by his distain for this bag of crap (brohm).

There are some really good people coaching in the big ten and there are some that should not be there. With college football, coaching should extend much further than the field. Some coaches morals and values differ substantially. The amount they care about there players developing off the field as well, with things like character, grades, maturity and behavior. I understand sideline behavior, most of the times does not tell the story. I understand this is driven by emotion and as we know is usually directed towards shotty officiating (osu).

The thing that stould out to me the most about Brohm was that he had no intentions of raining in his players stupid comments before the loss. He makes comments about just playing the game without the shit talk to save face. Put it on the players because they were made to look foolish the same as Florida. I could see Brohm pulling a woody hayes some day. Clemson beware.LOL.

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Hail-Storm

September 27th, 2017 at 9:29 AM ^

it's too bad too.  I was actually going to cheer for Purdue, since they have been down and I thought it was cool that a coach would use every trick play in the book to win.  I really don't like when teams are coached to push it as far as possible to hurt players intentionally.  This is similar to the statement by MSU's old DC, who hinted that they push they cheap shots as far as possible, especially against Michigan.  This is bullshit coaching.  

On the other side, I see 2-3 Michigan defensive players around the ball constantly, and do not see the type of cheap shots that Purdue was taking.  They hit very hard, but hit form tackling and rarely jump on a pile, when they see guys down.  

Rashan Gary I think was super mad when he got called for targeting initially on a clean hit, and went beast mode the rest of the way to make sure he was extra early. 

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Kevin13

September 27th, 2017 at 4:30 PM ^

I would also agree with you. When it happened at full speed I really didn't see a problem with it and can understand why a ref might not have thrown a flag on the play. Now sure when it's slowed down and looked at from several angles it was a cheap shot and deserved a penalty, but they didn't have the luxury of looking at it a hundred times at different angles and slowed down so I don't really fault the refs.

Also people just saying fuck Purdue and this player is a little much. These type of hits happen all the time in football and if someone can get an extra shot on an opponents QB they are going to do it. If people knew what happened on the bottom of piles in most games you would have to say fuck everyone who ever played the game. I have been in the bottom of piles over the years and both dished out and took plenty of cheap shots over the years, it's part of the game.

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Kevin13

September 27th, 2017 at 4:34 PM ^

Yes we gave Wilton a cheap shot when we had the chance. I'm glad it knocked him out of the game and we didn't get caught doing it or penalized. As far as the locker room damn right we didn't let them have A/C or decent facilities. We thought it would give us an advantage, I guess next time we will have to see what we can do to make it worse.

He basically said what any coach would say in that situation.

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LSAClassOf2000

September 26th, 2017 at 8:07 PM ^

I find it really funny - perhaps unnatrually so - that Wilton Speight himself was the first reply to this actually. One of the first replies to Wilton was Steven Threet, and then other players followed as well, so he's definitely getting all the support he might need on this one. 

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Mr. Yost

September 27th, 2017 at 12:48 AM ^

That Grant Perry video on his feed is AWESOME.

Clearly someone has learned his lesson. The fact that Khalid Hill is laughing at him makes it even funnier - I feel like guys are going to drop balls after touchdowns more often, just to see Grant run 25 yards over to dive on the ball, secure it, and quickly rush it to the officials.

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