The PAC-? still has a pulse

Submitted by the Glove on August 4th, 2023 at 10:23 AM

Just like Hulk Hogan when you think he's done, he's up and shaking the top rope.

Brett McMurphy:

At last minute, Pac-12 may stay together & sign Grant of Rights. After Monday’s media rights offer, P12 held multiple zoom meetings this week. Arizona’s Bobby Robbins appeared fully committed to Pac-12 so much that one participant said: “If Arizona leaves, he should win an Oscar"

Sources: With the Pac-12 president meeting at the top of the hour, there's optimism about the league’s grant of rights being signed. The key linchpin is Oregon. Heading into the meeting, the school is trending toward not going to the Big Ten.

BREAKING: Oregon and Washington's exit from the Pac-12 to the Big Ten appears to have lost momentum overnight, multiple sources tell 

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Wallaby Court

August 4th, 2023 at 10:38 AM ^

Team- (or conference-) specific streaming subscriptions could work, but I think that would harm college football overall. I am not as much as a degenerate as I used to be, but when I do watch something other than Michigan, I still watch a fair amount by flipping between the three or four most interesting games in a given timeslot. That viewership would evaporate with a pivot to focused streaming.

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4roses

August 4th, 2023 at 11:02 AM ^

I too believe "streaming" is the next step, but I think it is key to define what we mean by "streaming". I take "streaming" to mean very simply that someone no longer has a cable TV subscription. But there is a separate - and more important (imo) - question: who is providing the content that you watch? People are ditching their cable sub, but many people are still getting traditional "TV Networks" as a part of their streaming purchases and for sports these traditional networks are still dominating the market. And until the NFL, NBA, SEC, B1G, and NCAA Hoops tourney ALL stop relying on these networks as the primary source for viewing no streaming service has a chance in hell of competing. 

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mGo Go Gadget Play

August 4th, 2023 at 11:22 AM ^

It would be nice if one of these streamers plays the role of disruptor, and instead of making the viewing (and ticket-buyer) experience as lengthy and uncomfortable as possible, tried to make watching the games more enjoyable. I'd watch Pac-X games if they were "brought to you with limited commercial interruptions, sponsored by Preparation H." 

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MGlobules

August 4th, 2023 at 11:26 AM ^

I said this in another thread, but Texas's "network" sets part of the pattern here, and the accessibility of a lot of this ever-cheaper tech. You may have semi-pro announcers from your own school, but this could help ease the entry of some less-popular schools to new conferences. They can cultivate their own alumni audience, but you can show Michigan three weeks running, if that makes sense, on your cable network. 

If this facilitates greater exposure for other sports, I am 100 percent for it. Having a daughter who became a Michigan fan left me scrambling to see Michigan soccer, Michigan women's bball, etc. And again--repeating myself from another thread--but a UCLA in the league now with its bball tradition, FSU with its perennial women's soccer leaders, can long-term help the quality of B1G sports offerings. (What impact does FSU baseball have on the B1G? Interesting to consider.)

Not saying that FSU is in, btw; just a case I am interested in. 

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Sopwith

August 4th, 2023 at 11:48 AM ^

IDK, I thing the streaming stuff is the next step.

I mean, it's mostly the here and now.

In Q1 2013, this is how things looked in terms of time-usage (eyeball time):

Streaming: 2.6%

Broadcast: 30%

Cable: 59%

Other: 9.4% 

By June 2023, this is how things looked

Streaming: 37.7%

Broadcast: 20.8%

Cable: 30.6%

Other: 11.1%

LINK (Steve "Chart Gangsta" Rattner,  citing Nielsen company filings)

Even more interesting to me is how social media is vacuuming up ad dollars.

YouTube and TikTok combined for about $40 billion in ad revenue in 2022.

Comcast (NBC), Paramount (CBS), Disney (ABC/ESPN), and WB/Discovery all combined for... $40 billion.

The future is here. 

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Couzen Rick's

August 4th, 2023 at 10:25 AM ^

BREAKING: Oregon and Washington's exit from the Pac-12 to the Big Ten appears to have lost momentum overnight, multiple sources tell 

this is like when the hot girl way out of your league flirts with you just bc she's bored.

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Vasav

August 4th, 2023 at 11:34 AM ^

This was the Oklahoma template in the early CFP - they were a good-not-great team in a weak power conference and went to 4 straight CFPs (altho OU had one excellent team when Bama-Clemson-OSU were all a bit down but unfortunately couldn't pay it off - 2017, the year that Tua replaced Jalen at halftime in the National Title. OU played a classic Rose Bowl against UGA but came up short)

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RXwolverine

August 4th, 2023 at 10:28 AM ^

If they stay together good for them but shame on the Big ten for not getting this done. Expansion is not over and the SEC is gonna be on top of it. Why not be proactive and get the deal done before the SEC forces our hand again

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TruBluMich

August 4th, 2023 at 11:26 AM ^

This entire argument about expanding due to the SEC might expand is pretty interesting. Only because who gives a shit about what the SEC does. No team other than Notre Dame will increase either conference's amount per school. They would just be adding another slice to the pie. If Seattle had enough cable subscribers that the 49% of the BTN profits would raise the money per school, the Big Ten would have already invited them.

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M Go Cue

August 4th, 2023 at 10:46 AM ^

Sounds like the B1G offered what they thought they were worth, and Oregon didn’t agree.

USC and UCLA didn’t want Oregon in the B1G, so probably a win for them.

Probably a win for the current B1G members, in that they’re not giving up too much of their share of revenue by overpaying.

Probably a win for college football fans in general if the PAC whatever stays together.

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COLBlue

August 4th, 2023 at 11:23 AM ^

Update (maybe, I can't tell what's the latest):

Brett McMurphy of the Action Network reported the Pac-12 was unable to get the Grant of Rights signed during Friday's meeting and "nothing has changed" as far as Oregon and Washington potentially joining the Big Ten with a move "expected" when the details are worked out.

(from Bleacher Report)

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Vasav

August 4th, 2023 at 11:35 AM ^

Ok I'm changing my tune - if Oregon saves the PacX, I'm absolutely rooting for them to win the league this year over Oregon State.

But also it sounds like ASU's president may have helped hold Arizona in? Let's go sparky!

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Romulan Commander

August 4th, 2023 at 11:55 AM ^

Let's be honest, did anyone really expect that any Chancellor or President of a large state university would sign a grant of rights, extend a conference invitation, or accept a conference invitation after just one meeting?

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the Glove

August 4th, 2023 at 12:03 PM ^

Update from Brett McMurphy

Pac-12 unable to get Grant of Rights signed this morning & "nothing has changed" as far as Oregon & Washington joining Big Ten, sources told @ActionNetworkHQ Ducks & Huskies still expected to be Big Ten bound when finances are worked out, sources said

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