P. J. Fleck

Submitted by mickblue on

Western Michigan has 2 wins against B10 this year.

They've beaten Northwestern and Illinois.

That is as many  B10 wins  as either Purdue, Illinois, or Rutgers will get in 9 games this season.

Coach P. J. Fleck is a rising star at age 35.

I wouldn't be surprised if he is coaching in B10 next year.

The Purdue and Penn State jobs will probably be open to name 2.

Marvin

September 19th, 2016 at 8:16 AM ^

I think it's still a desirable job. They have a ton of resources but it would take the right person. If you want to make it a great job and still be able to look at yourself in the mirror you would have to somehow re-purpose the culture while still not completely rejecting the old guard, who is obviously loyal to the legacy of Mr. Pedo Glasses.

But the right guy could recruit well out there. 

The Mad Hatter

September 19th, 2016 at 8:36 AM ^

PSU can afford to pay their coach A LOT of money.  Pedo enabling notwithstanding, it's a good school with great alumni support and tons of institutional advantages.  I could see someone taking that job with an eye towards turning that program back into a national powerhouse.

Also, I wonder if the whole JoPa thing is that big of a deal amongst casual fans, or if it's just obsessives like us that get all worked up about it?

M-Dog

September 19th, 2016 at 8:31 AM ^

The bigger issue for taking the job, more than even the Paterno shadow, is having to compete right away in the Big Ten East.  

The PSU fanbase has Notre Dame-esque delusions of grandeur.  They're still stuck in 1986.  

They expect to be playing in National Championhip games after going undefeated in a MAC-like schedule.  They have not adapted to having to win your way in through a gauntlet of Michigan/OSU/MSU, the B1G CG, and the CFP.

The right coach, given lots of time, can make it work.  But they won't give him the time.

The guy who has it made is the next PSU coach after the one that follows Franklin gets fired.  The Paterno stuff will have died down (and many of his irrational supporters died off), and he will be able to recruit the talent-rich areas of PA / NJ / DC.

Ronnie Kaye

September 19th, 2016 at 9:15 AM ^

How do you know the school won't give a coach time? Franklin hasn't been fired and O'Brien left on his own. It would be irrational after to make a move now after three years, two of which had scholarship reductions. The fans are not the school.

Mr Miggle

September 19th, 2016 at 8:41 AM ^

to the school and/or the area. Someone like Matt Rhule. It's a better fit all around at a place where that's become especially important. No more O'Briens who see the job as a stepping stone.

I'd have to answer your question with another question. What do you mean by highly sought? If the answer is someone talked about as a candidate for lower to mid-level P5 jobs, probably. If it's someone who's getting serious interest from higher level P5 schools that pay like PSU, I honestly doubt it. I wouldn't put that down to disgust with honoring Paterno. Might be a factor for some, but It would be more about fit. It's an insulated, cultish place where you would always be compared to Paterno.

stephenrjking

September 19th, 2016 at 9:39 AM ^

I don't think the Joepa thing is an obstacle to a good coach. I think a program that's a bit of a mess, in a division with two of the three best coaches in football, with fans that don't have any sort of realistic expectations, in a town in the middle of nowhere, is the problem. I don't think it's easy to win there at all right now, and the kind of guy who could win there could win even better at a good SEC school. Someone compared them with Notre Dame, and while the reasons are different, the challenge is similar.

Ronnie Kaye

September 19th, 2016 at 11:17 AM ^

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks it. This Jesus Freak always has a creeper headshot of himself in some pensive pose. So strange.

Michology 101

September 19th, 2016 at 11:52 AM ^

Like Bob Barker use to say. "If the price is right." Many good coaches might not want to face those problems, but big money can make a lot people take jobs that they didn't prefer. PSU knows they have issues that may make many qualified coaches turn them down. Therefore, they're probably going to be ready to place TWO Brinks' trucks onto somebody's lawn. Not just one.

mgobleu

September 19th, 2016 at 8:53 AM ^

I don't know that it's a shtick so much, I just think his guys love to play for him because they feel like he's one of them. The same way Harbaugh will jump in and go shirts and skins at a satellite camp; it's just who they are. I never saw Brady Hoke or Charlie Weis put on pads and go one on one...

goblue224

September 19th, 2016 at 8:24 AM ^

Fleck should wait for the right job to open up. He's sitting pretty at WMU right now and if he jumps for a Purdue, PSU, etc. it could be a lateral/down graded career move. He's got strong midwestern ties, but there's going to be some mid-level SEC and Pac-12 jobs that come open after this year and next year that I think would be a better fit.

Mr Miggle

September 19th, 2016 at 9:32 AM ^

There's potential cost in waiting, aside from the huge difference in salary. And there's a limit on how high you can jump straight from the MAC. He should be in higher demand than he was last year and will get something better than Purdue. At the moment it's hard to say what jobs those might be.

Ty Butterfield

September 19th, 2016 at 8:34 AM ^

If his only opportunity after this season for a bigger job is Purdue I say he is better off staying at WMU a few more years. He will probably have more wins over Big Ten teams this year than Northwestern.

Perkis-Size Me

September 19th, 2016 at 9:04 AM ^

Penn State might try and make a run at Herman depending on how this season plays out with Franklin.

I'd say Herman is most likely going to end up at Auburn or LSU at this point, but PSU has the money to at least make Herman consider the idea. And that would scare me if he somehow ended up there.

Having Herman, Meyer, Dantonio, and Harbaugh all in the same division would be a brutal battle royale every year.



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DrMantisToboggan

September 19th, 2016 at 9:13 AM ^

I don't think Herman wants to be in Meyer's division (not saying Urban owns the division, just saying Herman doesn't want to have to battle his mentor every year). The SEC school that has the most in-roads in East Texas recruiting is definitely LSU, who will probably fire Miles this year. I'd expect Herman at LSU next year, unless Houston gets Big 12 invite and UH backs up the brinks truck. I can honestly see him as the type to believe that he can be the founder of a lasting, powerhouse program...and he might be right.

Needs

September 19th, 2016 at 9:28 AM ^

Houston has preemptively backed up the Brinks truck. He currently makes $3 million, and there's a clause in his contract that states if Houston is invited to join a Power 5 conference, Herman gets a $2.5 million raise for the first two years. He'd be making $5.5 million, the 4th highest paid coach in the country behind only Saban, Urban and Harbaugh.

And if he leaves Houston, LSU is the smart move. Saban's only got a couple years left and the other programs in the West are on somewhat of a downward trend.

 

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/tom-herman-salary-2016-…

jmblue

September 19th, 2016 at 9:05 AM ^

I'm not sure James Franklin is in as much hot water at PSU as is generally assumed here.  When I've visited PSU boards, it seems like most fans are blaming the sanctions for the state of their program.