Overhang at The Big House
Watching the MNF game tonight got me thinking and was curious on the boards thoughts.
Should Michigan build an overhang on The Bog House a la Seattle Seahawks Stadium?
I remember after they added the suites that they said more could be added or other additions may happen. The overhang is a very large part of what makes Seattle's stadium so loud. I think done correctly this could be cool.
Again I asked for thoughts so if it's very stupid go ahead and tell me.
October 25th, 2021 at 9:17 PM ^
As long as they add hang-overs, too, if you know what I'm sayin'
October 25th, 2021 at 11:03 PM ^
These days, I've got no problem getting hang-overs. Don't need to seek them out on purpose.
October 25th, 2021 at 9:20 PM ^
The Bog House sounds like a seedy dive bar one goes to after a game.
October 25th, 2021 at 9:31 PM ^
I'd live there.
October 25th, 2021 at 9:53 PM ^
I'll run your Webcam
October 25th, 2021 at 10:07 PM ^
In bikini bottom.
October 25th, 2021 at 10:18 PM ^
Its next door to the Bong House
October 25th, 2021 at 11:11 PM ^
Sounds like what you would call an SEC stadium.
October 26th, 2021 at 11:11 AM ^
The Bog House definitely sounds like the type of bar where you’ll find women with lower back tattoos that say “juicy” with a butterfly dotting the i.
October 25th, 2021 at 9:22 PM ^
I'd rather build an upper deck in the north endzone and widen the seats. Build a new scoreboard on top of that.
October 25th, 2021 at 9:36 PM ^
I actually agree with that, but not the scoreboard.
October 25th, 2021 at 9:46 PM ^
Second deck?
October 26th, 2021 at 7:27 AM ^
Where are all these extra fans going to come from to fill those new seats? Actual demand for tickets is falling and the stadium is seldom close to capacity despite the bogus attendance numbers announced at each game.
October 26th, 2021 at 9:50 AM ^
Saturday I saw the main bowl filled.... but the Student Section was empty towards the top.
I think you have a point. It just seems to be the trend nowadays. Adding seats isn't a wise choice. The only thing I could think of is *not* adding capacity but adding space; so more rows and more bleachers (or even seats) but the same amount of people. Just make it more comfortable.
Why is college football attendance dropping across NCAA? - Sports Illustrated
October 26th, 2021 at 10:55 AM ^
SOME of the student problem is non-attendance, but it feels like most of them crowd down to the bottom of the sections giving the appearance of empty portions.
October 26th, 2021 at 11:16 AM ^
While you are correct, it would also go a long way to widening the seats (even a couple of inches) to 'spread out' the fans.
Close the north end zone with an Upper Deck and updated scoreboard (Go big or go home). And close the south end zone with suites and updated scoreboard.
Rough estimate - Upper Deck adds ~15K seats.....additional suites (say 20 suites) adds little to number of fans but does add big money.
Spread the seats by 2 inches, bottom line.... net 10K general admission seats and 20 suite $$$$...
The question would be is what the ROI would be comparing the additional revenue to the costs....
October 26th, 2021 at 11:32 AM ^
I believe he's saying to keep the capacity where it is. Widen the existing "seats" and add more to an upper level.
October 26th, 2021 at 12:43 PM ^
I would expand the stadium by adding an upper deck then changing all the benches to chair back seats. Keep the stadium at 110,000 capacity but make the experience more comfortable
October 26th, 2021 at 3:43 PM ^
Well… build it and they will come… provided the coaching staff can excel and prosper by adopting SEC style recruiting practices. And Admissions would need to hang the welcome sign for Juco football stars and happily grant credit for “soft” classes in dancing, lawn maintenance and the like.
October 26th, 2021 at 9:29 AM ^
If you donate $100MM or so that sounds like a great idea.
October 25th, 2021 at 9:31 PM ^
I read Yost designed the stadium to hold a 300,000 capacity. If you build it, they will come.
October 25th, 2021 at 9:50 PM ^
Can you imagine the parking and traffic that would come along with 300k? Might need to camp out overnight.
October 26th, 2021 at 8:52 AM ^
The Boring Company, hyperloop tunnels, traffic issue solved.
October 25th, 2021 at 10:00 PM ^
Once read 150k
but never 300k or you trying to be funny?
October 26th, 2021 at 6:32 AM ^
Within the city limits of Ann Arbor? Granted, the city looked quite a bit different and was considerably smaller in his day, but now, you would have to build something like that perhaps in the bogs north of the city as it would be one of the few areas with sufficient open land. It would be the Bog House indeed then.
October 26th, 2021 at 9:30 AM ^
Not at $100 a ticket. They claim to have 109k at every game, but everybody knows that most non- premium games are more like 80k. Good idea to add a couple hundred thousand more empty seats.
October 25th, 2021 at 9:33 PM ^
If they can do one in Rome, they can do one at Michigan Stadium.
October 25th, 2021 at 9:37 PM ^
I know you're joking... but; It isn't quite so sunny in Michigan, during football season though. That would make it a really miserable game day experience after September.
October 26th, 2021 at 9:31 AM ^
Uh, Seattle is a little less sunny than A2.
October 26th, 2021 at 12:20 AM ^
I assume they had to make the chariot traffic on the Via Appia one way from Rome to Capua for several hours after each event.
October 26th, 2021 at 11:20 AM ^
inflectere venellam
October 25th, 2021 at 9:34 PM ^
I think they should build a dome and have glass pods suspended from it where you can hang over the field and watch the game with a birdseye view of the action.
October 25th, 2021 at 9:34 PM ^
Shit, just make it a half open dome!
I've always wished it had some kind of upper deck. Those games shake the stadium.
But I second widening the seats. It's ridiculous how narrow they are.
October 26th, 2021 at 8:26 AM ^
Mix in a salad
October 25th, 2021 at 9:35 PM ^
Bog House may not work for us, but it would be an apt nickname for Notre Dame Stadium, especially since their stadium is a smaller replica of the Big House and the Fighting Irish play there.
October 25th, 2021 at 9:36 PM ^
Someone on here photoshopped a partial and full upper bowl a few years ago. I thought it looked fantastic.
October 25th, 2021 at 9:45 PM ^
I do think they did a tremendous job with the renovations, suites, and new scoreboards; the masonry especially looks beautiful from the outside.
However, there was something special about the open stadium with a small scoreboard and a press box that looked like a gust of wind could blow it over, poorly irrigated grass field, and marshmallows flooding the end zone. Not saying it was better than what we have right now, but it did have a special feel to it
October 26th, 2021 at 10:55 AM ^
The marshmallows need to come back - but without the nickels and quarters stuck into them. Just leave the bag open for a few days before the game, they'll fly well enough.
October 26th, 2021 at 11:14 AM ^
Yeah, Michigan stadium, pre-renovation, never looked all that impressive from the street. Certainly didn't look like the largest football stadium in America. It was always amusing to see new attendees reactions shift from skepticism to incredulity as they pass through from the exterior to the interior.
October 26th, 2021 at 11:32 AM ^
My first game (that i remember) attending in person was 73. (8yr old). I remember standing around with my friend and their parents as they talked and ate and drank and talked some more. All the time wondering WHEN we were going to get to the stadium, i desperately didn't want to be late (was already a super-fan thanks to Ufer). little did i know i was literally 2 feet away from it the whole time and didn't know till we we walked in. Could have enjoyed myself more had i known.
October 25th, 2021 at 9:48 PM ^
I’ve thought the same thing, for what that’s worth.
October 25th, 2021 at 9:55 PM ^
I've always been in favor of either an upper deck on one or both endzones or a canopy a la the Washington Huskies or numerous European soccer stadiums (I think FSU has a small canopy as well). Don't think we need something quite as big as the double awning the Seahawks have, but having a bit of protection for fans during shit weather as well as better trapping the noise of 100,000 is always gonna be a yes in my book
October 25th, 2021 at 9:58 PM ^
Doubt anymore additions happen
there isn’t the budget for it and we aren’t filling the stadium now.
For them to figure a way to add an overhang just for a louder venue makes no sense at this point.
they may upgrade the scoreboards at some point, that was coming before the pandemic ruined everything (thanks China)
October 25th, 2021 at 10:05 PM ^
I think they should cover the entire top of the stadium with glass. The rationale would be three-fold: First, trap sound, making the stadium insanely loud; second, trap heat, making those November games bearable; and thirdly, you could sell 30,000 extra tickets to fans willing to watch the game from above, perhaps lying on their stomachs.
EDIT: Four-fold: insane up-skirt action like that new art exhibit in NYC…
October 25th, 2021 at 10:20 PM ^
If anything programs will be looking to scale back their massive stadiums as less and less people choose in-person over watching on TV.
All but the most dominant programs will struggle to fil their stadiums in...5 years ago. The time in now, haha. It's not coming but a current reality.
October 25th, 2021 at 10:21 PM ^
Awnings are just not standard offerings in American football stadia. They are common in European soccer facilities, of course, but those also have different weather patterns. At Michigan Stadium you might get one or at most two games with precipitation a year, and you often get none. And, as others have said, the shade would get quite cold for half of the year, offsetting any comfort gains.
It makes sense in Seattle because it is so rainy. Doesn't hurt that it's really fun, of course.
But, from a practical standpoint, there's not much call for it. It would look really cool, though, if done right. And a smaller awning, like what there is at Comerica Park (college football examples include one end zone at Neyland and Bryan-Denny) could make some aesthetic sense without breaking the bank. But whatever would happen would be downstream of another major renovation, such as the second-deck concept discussed in this thread.
And, for what it's worth, while it would be an expensive way to not really gain any new seats, it's not outlandish. Michigan Stadium is the biggest facility by capacity, but if you've been to other stadiums (particularly modern NFL behemoths) you know that it's far from the largest in physical size. So if they were to build a second deck, it might lift people away from the field a bit, but they'd still be closer than, say, upper deck seats in US Bank Stadium.
October 26th, 2021 at 9:37 AM ^
I'm guessing Seahawks stadium is about 100yrs younger than the Big House. It's a lot easier to do these kind of things at a newer stadium.
October 26th, 2021 at 4:39 PM ^
Funny you mentioned it, but I would love to know the actual dimensions of Michigan Stadium and other college football stadiums or have 3D representations so that you could overlay stadiums in VR and get a sense for their true physical sizes rather than just their official capacity numbers. I've been to many other college stadiums and while the Big House is indeed large, it does not always feel like the largest physically. Neyland Stadium, LSU, and LA Colisseum to name a feel like larger physical structures. Even Notre Dame does not feel like a physically smaller venue. And virtually all college stadiums are dwarfed by NFL stadiums in actual physical size.
I'm curious if anyone has the stats on the number of rows of seating at The Big House vs. ND. They look similar in height on TV and in person it didn't seem like there is a big difference.
October 25th, 2021 at 10:52 PM ^
The Bog House should be the official home of the Mud Bowl.