Daryl Stonum is listed under Michigan, not Baylor.
OT - NFL Draft Day 3 OPEN Thread
If the Lions don't get a PR/KR today I will be upset. Ace Sanders would be perfect. Denard would be awesome.
rated #133 overall, taken @ 101. I bet Denard goes earlier than his 192 6th round rating
(per CBSSports.com, which doesn't hide their info behind a paywall).
has GOT to be considered the greatest since 1997. That team was led by a junior and senior class that has ended up having ONE player drafted on the first two days of TWO drafts (Mike Martin, rd 3, 2012). Just remarkable first-year coaching and leadership by the seniors, especially the aforementioned Martin as well as Molk, RVB, and Junior.
It's also encouraging that despite this lack of allegedly-high-draft-worthy talent (geez, did you see all the UConn and UNC players getting drafted?), we still had two pretty good seasons on balance. One was a little lucky and over-achieving; the other very unlucky with injuries (Countess, Denard) and schedule ('Bama, road games), but if this is the "ground floor" of the Hoke Era, then I believe we'll have more than a few Football Final Fours in our future.
Sounds like a candidate for one of the greatest COACHING seasons in a long time.
Makes me excited for when all these excellent recruiting classes mature and get to their junior/seniors years. We're not going to have the insane attrition that was commonplace under richrod
There is a lot of talent/value still available in the 4th round. I wish we hadn't traded our early pick away. Surprised to see Matt Barkley, Denard, Akeem Spence, Jessie Williams, Barrett Jones, Ace Sanders, Ryan Swope, Alex Okafor, and Alvin Bailey amongst others waiting to get taken.
Edit: Yikes! 4 of them gone in the first 6 picks. Hope some of my favorites are left for my Lions. I want them to take BWC in the 7th as a project. He's got a future in the NFL somewhere.
Brian Kelly on NFL Network, really gushing about Denard. Says "don't think about what position he should play, just draft him and then figure out where to put him". Says he is really tough and physical. Mike Mayock also says "just find a spot for him".
Tom is rated #118 on CBSSports.com and the Lions have the 132nd pick
Yeah, but I wouldn't worry, Tom's always been overrated.
Good thing MM isn't calling the shots anymore.
I'm breaking my own rule about not wearing football jersies with another man's name on it and buying a Denard Lions jersey.
Denard, Megatron,Bush...oh, my.
the bigger question than Denard is when will Leon Sandcastle go?
now gone... Denard is next.
That's where my money would be
Do we take credit for Stonum being drafted? I mean he did play here for 75% of his career.
He only had 3 receptions for 51 yards and 1 TD at Baylor. If he is drafted, it'll be because of his production at Michigan, not Baylor.
I wish Darryl would have been more responsible. He would have been a key player last year.
Hopefully Kasheem Greene or Da'Rick Rogers falls to the Lions, as they both fit needs.
could potentially be trouble for Detroit... He was kicked off Tennessee because of Titus Young traits. Great athlete but terrible attitude, and Detroit doesn't need anymore attitude/ behavior problems.
Brandon Jenkins would be our best bet at this point. He played both Sam and DE too, and his injury shouldn't be a big issue for the future.
I could have understood EJ Manuel or Geno Smith going to the Eagles, but Matt Barkley? I'd think Chip Kelly would have wanted a more agile quarterback.
that James Madison, William & Mary, and Valdosta State had players selected before Michigan did.
I cannot wait until Brady Hoke starts coaching talent (in the junior/senior classes) that warrants multiple draft picks in the top 3 rounds.
I'd love Denard to the Lions, but I feel like he'll be gone sooner than the 5th round, which feels like the right place for him.
But this is the first I really feel like a player waiting to be picked because I have no idea when Denard will go.
OMG THEY SHOWED DENARD!11!!
Hope he goes to an NFC North team so I can see him. Either that or the Stillers or Patriots. Pitt would be overflowing with Wolverines with 4 if he goes there.
McGuffie is still out there boys...
That picture NFL Network just showed of Denard with family waiting at home looked painful. I've never seen Denard look quite like that - nervous and uncomfortable. Folks in the background, too.
I don't read too much into this. He'll be fine and he is blessed. I'm hoping beyond hope that he goes to the Lions (I know, many aren't). Love that guy and especially his character. The stress on his face just shows what is at stake for these guys.
Go Blue. Go Denard!
Like you said, Denard will be just fine. Some team somewhere will take a chance on him. I could easily see that coming in the form of the Patriots or the Eagles, but really I just want anyone to draft him. The kid's busted his ass off the last 4 years and put up with a lot of criticism. He deserves to be rewarded.
I really wish people would take a realistic perpsecitve of the 'Denard has put up with a lot of criticism' meme. Give me a break, please. He has been a celebrity everywhere he has went. Yes, he has received some criticism, but its been a mere grain of sand in the ocean of praise and laudatory treatment he has received since he has started at UM.
I'm not worried about Denard at all. This isn't even a football statement. Even if professional football doesn't work out (which I think it will), he's just the type of person that will always find success and happiness in life, no matter what he does.
Any of those would be fantastic for Denard. I just don't want to see him (or any Wolverine) end up at some sad-sack franchise like the Lions or Jacksonville. Although I guess the advantage with the latter is that Denard's family could watch him play more easily.
Maybe he can still hang out with the Stillers.
Man, I guess I knew this going in, but watching the draft really hit home how talent deficient UM has been the last few years.
"Tampa Tom" Gholston. Has a certain ring to it.
We needed a defensive end. But Gholston......sigh.....
After another U-Conn guy. How did they go 5-7 the year? They're not going to have anyone left to play us.
plus the bowl victory ;)
I think he was talking about Uconn going 5-7
picks... Please... Denard to the Lions would be legendary.
DENARD - DENARD - DENARD !!!
a couple picks until the Lions. Please.
Harvard, Colorado State Pueblo, Valdosta State and Cornell have had picks before Michigan.
What is life?
Has it ever been more obvious about the lack of talent we've had recently?
Pretty damn obvious. We brought in some great kids between 2008 and 2011 but they were seriously lacking in NFL talent. In a few years the 1st day of the draft will be back to having multiple Michigan guys being drafted.
our talent is all coming back this year. Sparty lost its best players. Winning the NFL draft means you field less of a team next year (relative to those same players coming back).
Have a pick at the top of the 5th round...
So if they don't take Denard now, they'll likely get another shot.
Would be interesting to see Denard in Honolulu Blue.
Please go Jesse Williams Lions...
I'd take Ryan Swope here...which is weird, another Swope/Denard battle.
Hell, take em both.
The Lions need a polished slot WR ala Welker and Swope does play on special teams.
Not sure if Denard is AS needed with Reggie Bush now on the roster. Nonetheless, he's explosive and I would seriously consider taking them both.
is getting to be as bad as their former obsession with WRs.
While I love that they are building up the d-line, they really need to address the secondary issues.
Signed Quin and re-signed Delmas. They have addressed their secondary issues.
Michigan's lowest start in the draft ever was 2009 when Terrance Taylor was picked at #136 overall.
Currently on 133 right now....
Alot Rich Rod
This feels like trolling. If Lewan had left (an RR guy), this wouldn't be the case.
Dark years and all, but UM's talent level is rebounding after more than just the RR years.
So one first rounder. And then...? It still doesn't change the fact that the RR years through poor coaching and terrible attrition, we have very little talent.
Thanks a lot to Lloyd as well. 2009 was pretty much all Lloyd's doing. Further confirms that idea that Lloyd left the cupboard bare and Richrod didn't do much to restock it
have pick 136 and Detroit has pick 137... Should be interesting for Denard.
Will Campbell could come off the board any time as well.
Would be great if a team that is incorporating more spread concepts into the game takes Denard. A team like SF, SEA, NE, or PHI would be great places for him to be used creatively.
Sad. No Denard. Plus side: we pick again very soon.
I actually do not think we'll pass on Denard in the 5th.
On the other hand. that's not true. I sort of expect us to get a WR here, but someone who can play as a true WR opposite CJ.
...so I wouldn't be shocked if they did pass on him again.
Swope is also a very viable option.
Detroit on the board again soon, so the Swopes or Robinson combination is still in play (for those of you who are seeking slot-type WRs).
Every time some shitty team I hate like Atlanta drafts, I'm paralyzed with fear that they'll take Denard
has pick 136 right before Detroit, so I'm kind of in fear as well.
Lions fans can only dream that Detroit would be as shitty as a team that just went 13-3.
Detroit really shouldve grabbed Jordan Poyer. good CB
They grabbed Slay in the 2nd round and 3 CB's last year, they don't need any more DB's.
I don't remember him in the bowl game, I feel like that's a bad thing. I assume he was up against Schofield all game.
Well I certainly remember his long arms batting down passes. He's a good player
Not to mention that Borges was rolling the pocket left and right all game
because Taylor was more productive than Clowney for most of that game.
This late we're getting into the project picks, wouldn't mind picking up Brandon Jenkins, Reid Fragel, Graham Pocic, or BWC. They've all shown great determination and athletecism.
JAGS!!! WOOT WOOT! HEADED HOME!
shit. and to the team I probably like the least! What a shitty team - worse than the Lions.
However, his family gets to keep him close, and that's good for him and them. Happy for the family, not for the Lions or Denard.
On the plus side, they'll probably be in LA in a year or two, so maybe it won't be the same crappy franchise he's playing for for most of his career.
They announced him as a RB...
Only following online and wondered with them taking Ace Sanders already if they might be thinking of Denard as a running back. I honestly think it's a better fit for him than WR and a spot where he should be able to do some things quickly. Easier to teach him blocking than all the nuances of route running, and lord knows he can explode through the hole.
Goes close to home:
As bad as J'ville has been perhaps he'll get a real chance to see what he can do.
Looks like I'm a Jags fan now!
Screw the Lions. Jags all the way!
As a Jacksonville resident, I'm fine with Denard comin on down!!
Just drafted Ace Sanders...so maybe they WILL use him as a RB rather than a slot WR.
Denard goes home!!! Great Jacksonville pick. Now they can trade for Tebow and run the Wilcat every other drive.
Ughhhh Jacksonville. Glad his family can see him play, though, more easily. Congrats to Denard!
Said that they were going to draft Denard here in the 5th. They had a plan in place for him and everything.
So the Lions had #132 and #137 and allegedly wanted Denard. They didn't want him bad enough, which is fine with me.
As a Houstonian I get to see Denard twice a year! Sweet!
The Lions just traded their pick.
The Seahawks took (CBSSports) #38 overall DT Jesse Williams. Even though the Lions don't have a need (now) at that spot, I hope we got more than we passed up.
Must've been Denard or nothing for them. If no Denard, then trade away for more picks. I'm not saying I agree with the strategy, but maybe it's a plausible explanation.
Seems right. Plus, the Lions are so good at finding hidden talent in the later rounds, why not get as many late-round picks as possible? /s
Wish he could've gone to Tampa, but happy he's getting a chance and gets to play close to home. Hopefully he gives Jaguar fans something to cheer about on offense.
Good luck, Denard, and give them hell.
Going up against Gholston in practice.
Jacksonville is a nice place.
Denard will be a RB with the Jags
This isnt trolling it was announced...
I am not surprised
for a couple of practice squad-level picks
I agree with the sentiment, but let's be fair -- practice squad-level picks for most teams = starters for the Lions. :\
They can pick two more defensive linemen. You can never have too many, just like WRs.
Taylor and Ansah replace Vanden Bosch and Avril. How is that too many defensive linemen?
a guy that might actually have an impact
The Lions traded pick #137 for picks #165 and #199
Pick #138 LB Tahir Whitehead
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/15070/tahir-whitehead played in 14 games and recorded 11 total tackles
Pick #148 CB Chris Greenwood
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/15100/chris-greenwood recorded no stats
Pick #196 CB Jonte Green
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/15128/jonte-green played in 15 games and recorded 1 INT & 29 total tackles
It's a crap-shoot in these late rounds. I think, if you see value, AT ANY POSITION, just take it. You can always fill holes with free agents.
Not too exciting Really wanted them to trade down in the 1st, 2nd, or 4th.
Didn't get much here, but well, Denard what off the board, so I guess I don't mind too much.
My new tattoo:
Thats a woman with that tatt....and she has bigger arms than i do!
Thanks. That's my daughter. Not cool.
On the one hand I'm all: Fuck the Jags! They stole Denard and Joeckel from the Lions! and on the other hand I'm all: Go Jags! My new favorite team! Denard and Henne play for you!
I hope the Lions take Rambo and Quessenberry with their 5th and first 6th rounders. Get some competition in those thin positions.
If the Lions seriously wanted Denard, they had the chance—there was only 5 picks difference between their 4th and 5th round picks. They wanted Devin Taylor more.
Anyone else notice that the draft tracker for SI.com did not have an avatar picture for Denard? Take a look under their best available and scroll on down to Anthony Rashad White from little brother... Go on.. Take a peek... http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/draft-2013/tracker/?sct=hp_mini-draft#bestAvailable/1
Added link. How do you mess up something like that?
He actually looks like "WTF the Jags."
We're going to get anyone else drafted?
but I wouldn't be shocked, either. Not too many people thought that Geno Smith or Barkley would take as long to get chosen, so it's a crap shoot.
...but that's it.
Will Campbell, Patrick Omameh, Craig Roh and Kenny Demens are now on the "best available" lists for their positions. Kovacs is not as of yet.
First Hawthorne, now Hyde...Johnny Adams and Josh Johnson are next.
Awkward video...Denard's always short in interviews but this was a little uncomfortable. Heck, he may have been a little buzzed, hell, he's 22 and it's a celebration...not knocking him. That said, it's Denard so I really couldn't give a damn. Time to eat, LETS GO!
Was just painful to watch. I feel bad for Denard, for some reason he doesn't seem happy.
Barf..,a punter in the 5th round and it's not Brad Wing?
...K/P Sam Martin
I hate being a fan on the Lions.
scramble to add Sam Martin to their databases.
Punter? Very anti-climatic. And after that UCLA kid was picked, too. I doubt this was really who we wanted. Not cool. Punter > Swopes or any other player I don't know about?
Hell, maybe. But I'm a Lions' fan.
Only happy with the 3rd round pick. Every other one I've been rather disappointed in, although I'm open to hoping the Ziggy could be special.
Kickers dropping like flies now! Snatch em up!
Lions select: Sam Martin, P, Appalachian State
Any time you have the chance to grab the draft's 6th-rated punter in the 5th round, you'd be a fool not to pounce on it. Martin will at least get plenty of chances to hone his craft if Detroit doesn't upgrade its offensive tackle situation.
Just googled Sam Martin and didn't find anything about him on the first page... SMH Lions.
Caleb TerBush or Dayne Crist with this next pick...
posting those names.
And then the Lions go do something reasonable, albeit in the 6th round, so Fuller's not likely to have a huge impact.
Awesome name. Snoop Dogg approves.
Not graded on ESPN...
I've seen him in person 6-7 times. A average college WR...Greg Mathews, Roy Roundtree level impact.
"Meh" type pick to me. Especially with Swope on the board. Swope would be perfect in the slot.
The draft magazine I got (albeit a month ago) has Fuller as a 6th round prospect with good speed, and solid hands, they claim his best football is still in front of him. We don't really need a slot guy either with Broyles and Mike Thomas alread on the team.
The Lions took him w/the 171th pick.
Hard to top the Sam Martin pick at this point.
Thank God we picked up a good receiver, because we're gonna need him to play along with Calvin Johnson, Nate Burleson, Ryan Broyles, Brian Robiskie, Reggie Bush, Brandon Pettigrew, Tony Scheffler, plus the 9(!) other wide receivers we have sitting on the bench. I was worried we were gonna run out of targets to throw to.
Just came off the board to Arizona and Houston respectively.
Didn't expect BWC to go already. 6th round to Jets #178 overall.
Some were saying he may have moved ahead of Denard in the draft and wouldn't be surprised if he went as high as late 4th round.
I haven't been paying too much attention so the last I heard was maybe very late if at all. I guess this is late but I was expecting later.
He was drafted to play OG...not DT.
Big Will was ranked 414th, so take it w/ a grain of salt.
come off the board in the middle of the 6th round to Chicago & Arizona
Cardinals select: Andre Ellington, RB, Clemson
Undersized but tremendously explosive and productive, Ellington improves on the departed LaRod Stephens-Howling's skill set and may be the most talented back in Arizona from the first day of mini-camp.
Bears select: Cornelius Washington, DE, Georgia
Washington is an excellent athlete and has the kind of explosion and long arms to challenge tackles. He needs polish and to up his on-field productivity, but he could find some early playing time rotating with Shea McLellin at the end spot opposite Julius Peppers.i-camp.
He was ranked 286th by CBS Sports, but I think he's a good value/utility (special teams, can catch the ball or block) for a late 6th round pick.
Ranked 104, would have been a good value pick for the Lions at 199, IME
(Lions have pick #199), who would have been a reasonable pick for the Lions.
(rated 366th by CBS Sports)
Anybody think that in a couple of years, we'll be asking why we effectively traded Alabama's DT Jesse Williams for AppySt P Sam Martin and ND RB Theo Riddick?
Lions just don't seem in any way concerned about their offensive line or LB depth outside of their 3rd round pick. I suppose I shouldn't be concerned about it either.
They only have 6 (really 4 who've played) and have yet to replace the starter they lost.
They have. Ashlee Palmer and Tamir Whitehead will compete for his spot. How many linebackers do you think NFL teams carry? 6 is about right.
Justin Durant may have been blah, but he led the team in tackles last year. 82 total, 61 solo. Maybe Ashlee Palmer is good enough to pick up the slack of the teams leading tackler, but last year he played in 15 games and started twice, but logged only 9 tackles at the teams most productive position.
82 divided 16 = 5 tackles a game. 9 tackles in two starts equals 4.5 tackles a game. The rest he played on special teams.
Do tell me where the great difference is?
The difference is the year before he only had 3. Honestly I can't understand your enthusiasm about a perennial backup If you thought the guy who beat him out for the job was blah. I hope he succeeds, but I'd like them to have a better plan in place.
over the situation. If the Lions thought Durant was worth bringing back they would have done so.
Hmm.....I was neither panicking, nor was I talking about Durants long term viablity for the Lions. I don't think the quality of their depth is sufficient, and I'd like it if they tried to improve their position instead of maintaining the revolving door of average talent we've had at LB for the last 10 years or so.
Drafting an offensive lineman in the late rounds doesn't really help much, they can't contribute early and most likely won't contribute at all. I like the Riddick pick alot considering he's Reggie Bush lite and should fit in easily on offense and as a returner.
I know project guys usually don't contribute early, but with Molk in the 7th round last draft, and Marcus Cannon in the draft before there are exceptions.
App State and Illinois have more players drafted than Michigan at this point.
Is this the weakest draft in a long long time or am I nuts? I can't remember the last time I saw a draft where only one quarterback went in the first round(and he isn't special) and zero running backs were picked. Just seems like a total Meh class.
But it has depth.