There are 17 games these days so 8-9 or 9-8. An average team would win 9 games with this schedule based on last season. Will the lions be average? Let's see what Campbell can get done with Hutch and company.
If anyone can go 8-8 with a 17 game schedule, it's the Loins.
Idk, that sounds like alot of wins for them.
Not to be a prick, but they play 17 games now...
Go Vikes!
While it's the 5th easiest schedule (.467), it's still the NFL and we are still the Detroit Lions. While I do like the moves Holmes and Campbell have done we still have some pretty big holes especially on D. That finale @ Green Bay again in January is just bullshit.
As of this moment, with no injuries or sense of who is on the roster, I will say these are the likely losses:
GB x2, at Vikes, Eagles, at Pats, at Cowboys, Dolphins, Bills
these are the likely wins:
Bears x2, Jags, at Panthers
and these are the 50/50 games:
Commanders, Seahawks, at Giants, Vikes, at Jets
If we win half the 50/50 games, I have us at 7-10.
Admittedly, I stopped watching the games, but the Lions seam to always lose in Thanksgiving. 8-9 would exceed my expectations.
.467 is the combined opponents' records from last year?
🤷🏼♂️
I’ve followed the Lions since the 60’s and they’ve been dead to me for decades. Why is it, then, that I feel optimistic about them after last year and the draft? The players play for Campbell, that’s different, and I loved their picks in the draft. 8-9 wins is a real possibility fo them.
Last year was the best bad Lions team of my lifetime. I hope this year they can become the best mediocre Lions team of my lifetime.
if they lose fewer than 10 games, it would honestly be a happy shock.
If they win 10 games we’re going to Sizzler.
Or maybe Ponderosa! Best Vat-Brewed Steaks in town!
With Washington, Bears x2, Giants, Jags, Panthers, Jets, if this team doesn't get to 7 or 8 wins would be pretty pathetic.
I don't see the lions beating Washington imo
Hey now, these things are pretty unpredictable. We don't know how good the Bears, Jags, or Jets will be. Another year of development for Those 3 young QBs can do wonders for them. The Jets especially improved their roster in the offseason and while I don't think they'll compete for the division title, they may sneak into the playoffs as a 7 seed. I think they'll at least be in the conversation come week 15.
Of course that largely depends on Zach Wilson.
The week 6 bye and at GB in Jan kinda suck.
Still the Lions and still no QB. So they'll be briefly exciting before injuries decimate the team like always because (I am convinced of this) the Lions have the worst medical staff in the league.
yeah we should probably trade for a QB that can win a playoff game, or better yet, one who is capable of getting all the way to the Super Bowl.
I wouldn't say no QB, Goff is at least a mediocre NFL QB. And he was flat out good the last part of the season with the new OC and Campbell calling plays.
As someone who works on Sundays, the no 4 PM games this year is killing me.
I'll go with 4-13.
Not a single prime time game. Whatever.
they consider Thanksgiving to be prime time, which is how they get away with it.
I think (re: read on a forum) you're only supposed to get 5 primetime games a year and the Bills currently have 6 if you count Thanksgiving. 3 Thursday (first game of the season and then b2b Thanksgiving and following week), 2 Monday and an SNF. So it seems like they kinda consider Thanksgiving prime time but who knows.
I know everyone is supposed to get a Thursday game- but since the Lions have the Thanksgiving early spot occupied they usually skip it.
The schedule reveals are amazing.
https://twitter.com/Lions/status/1524902377853276165
A friendly reminder about the Jags' recent coaching change.
https://twitter.com/chargers/status/1524902549353951232
But the Chargers... just, wow... Jags scene look familiar?
This was quite humorous, they missed a huge opportunity in week 5 against NE to take a jab @ Patricia...like a razor shaving his neckbeard or a Quinntricia jersey with the number 13-29-1 on it.
Just saw that Chargers video. Fantastic. Might be the best schedule reveal ever. So much trolling.
I’ve lived through Rodgers, Fontes, Morningwheg, Marinelli, and Patricia… Campbell is the biggest clown of them all. I don’t see where all the optimism is coming from. It’s going to be another train wreck.
Man I bet you're fun at parties, Holmes had done a great job so far in the draft and Campbell hasn't proven to be a dope just yet. You need to look on the positive side of things.
The players like him, so hes the perfect coach for a rebuild. In that we have a competent GM so far...and he's onboard with Campbell.
Other than some early whacky statements and looking goofy sometimes, what has Campbell done that he's a clown?
Players played hard all season, despite being perhaps the least talented teams in the league (on defense for sure). Offense struggled, but he made a tough decision to remove Anthony Lynn - a respected guy in the league - from play calling duties in the middle of the season. And it didn't turn out to be some circus! That's a credit to Lynn for being very professional, but also Campbell because many first year coaches wouldn't have been able to make a call and keep the team looking forward. Seems like he and Holmes have a great relationship as well.
Not saying he's the next coming of Vince Lombardi, but nothing he has done tells me he's a clown. Players and fans hated Patricia. And he proved incompetent in motivating a team. Campbell took one of the worst teams in the league and had them competitive in almost every game. At the very least, the players will fight for him.
He also has former players and seemingly well regarded coaches in spots that make a lot of sense (Glenn and Pleasant were getting DC hype for a bit this offseason). If he can keep the players motivated, that may be all I need from him.
4-13 its the LIons dont over think it
First blush I count 10 losses.
IM looking forward to watching Hard Knocks this season. I love the show, and it will give a lot of insight on what's going on behind the scenes.
Thinking somewhere between 6-8 wins. Schedule isn't bad and I'm fine with no evening games (I work in schools so games not finishing before 11 on school nights just doesn't sound fun to me). This is assuming we see second half of the season Goff and the team staying relatively healthy.
"... is on Thanksgiving where the Lions can pull off upsets..."
Uhh, have you watched the Lions on Thanksgiving Day?
37-42-2 all time; 4-13 in the last 17 games. I'm not sure where your sentence came from!
Well to be honest, 37 is a lot of upsets.
Go Blue!!!!
With any luck we could have won 3 more games. That's not even including the games in which Goff was injured. They improved both sides of the team. They have the fifth easiest schedule. I'm a homer.
11-6
11-6
I'm betting on the Lions to win the NFC North at +1200 odds.
I'm also a fool that texts my sons every year in week one that this is the year the Lions win the superbowl
I think 8 wins is doable with the schedule. As long as they stay on the right side of injury-luck (that's the one variable we can't account for until it happens) and keep fighting, this could be interesting. I still think it's bogus they count Thanksgiving as a "prime time" game; but if they're in the hunt, I can see a game get flexed in December to prime time or moved to a "Game of the Week" slot at 4 p.m.
This is a curious annual ritual that I have watched Lions fans go through for 30+ years now. The schedule comes out and there is this impressive optimism that peaks in fall camp and either starts to crash during pre-season or gets amplified by any hint of success during the pre-season. And then the season happens. And the day drinking starts along with the debates about the merits of purposefully tanking the remainder of the season for draft day benefits.
If the Lions ever get to the Super Bowl and play the Cleveland Browns the end will be nigh.
I think they'll be around .500. So 7-9/8-8/9-7 feels like a ceiling, with the floor in the 5/6 win range. They're a young team with some talent and a moderate-sized hole at QB. We'll see if that's enough in a division I'm not sold is particularly strong.
When do the Lions win on Turkey Day? I musta missed something.
If they win 8 games this year, it's time to fire-up the Dan Campbell/Brad Holmes Superbowl talk. This roster is probably closer to 5-6 wins.
If they are close to .500 this year I'd expect playoffs in '23 and contending in '24, pending what they do at QB.
Really tough opener against the Eagles, I wouldn't count on that as a win (although as the Lions, what game can you count on as a win), but otherwise the first 4-5 weeks of the schedule set up fairly nicely. Washington, Minnesota and Seattle are all very winnable games, and then who knows what to expect from New England? Bill Belichek is still the same deviant mastermind he's always been, but you're looking at a castrated New England team compared to what it was just 3-4 years ago.
Anywho, if Detroit can win 2-3 of those, maybe steal a win in New England and head into a bye week on a 3-2 or even 4-1 record, that helps really build some confidence before the schedule difficulty kicks up. Got no favors in drawing Buffalo on Thanksgiving Day, but Jacksonville, the Giants and Jets are all on the schedule, the Bears are flaming garbage, and Carolina isn't very good, either. All of those are winnable games.
Detroit isn't a playoff team this year, but if they show some real progression, win 7-8 games and maybe knock off a team they have no business knocking off, they definitely set themselves up nicely to be a playoff contender in 2023. A lot of that too will depend on who they take at QB in the draft next year and if they can continue to put some talent around him.
No offense, but I think one of the most overrated thing in sports is the “unveiling” of the NFL Schedule. Then the record predictions or where the “hardest stretch” may be. Nobody knows anything in May! Lions may be good but trying to say what’s manageable or not before we even see how the parts on the offense/defense mesh is wild.
You're not wrong, but everyone needs something to talk about until the season starts. And the NFL commands so much influence and so many eyeballs that they can make a TV event out of this and continue raking in money over it.