OT: Justin Fields would like to be coached less

Perhaps this "devil's advocate argument" is ridiculous, but I'll try it.  What if Justin Fields were on the Chiefs (coached by Andy Reid)?

I don't watch a ton of NFL, but I swear, anytime I do Pat Mahomes is out there doing a fair amount of wild and unfundamental stuff (throwing across his body, running around all over the place).

But --- obviously, it's working in KC.  

With Fields - is it just a case of him being terrible, or his coaches not being good enough (like Reid) to accept the things his QB does and make it work with the other personal regardless?

A team; 10 people playing a scheme and one person playing football how he knows to play football.

Probably not something he should say in public, and he's also made some boneheaded mistakes on the field, but he's not entirely wrong. And in his defense, the Bears have essentially set him up to fail. He's got no reliable weapons, no offensive line, and the defense is a sieve. He has no help around him to make his job easier, and it seems like the Bears have been a mess, as an entire organization, for almost forty years. Minus a few seasons here and there. 

In a way, I get what he's doing here. His team is 0-2, I think just a smidge over 10% of NFL that have started 0-2 have ever made the playoffs, and he's staring down the barrel at 0-3 with having to going to Kansas City this weekend. He is also staring down the barrel of potentially losing his job after the season. He hasn't gotten much help, but he also hasn't shown much to show why he deserves to get another shot. 

So yeah, go play ball how you want to play it. What do you have to lose at this point? 

eh, I don't get too much joy of hating on former Buckeyes. 

As a Bears fan, Justin Fields sucks ass!

Sounds like Johnny Manziel.  That worked real out real well.

I'm in Chicago - and, not necessarily the biggest Bears fan unless I know players / coaches on the team.  However, the Bears evaluation of Fields - his ability - etc. - are SO far off.

If anything - Fields needs to understand the game MUCH better - and, be more accurate when there's an opportunity.

The quality of play in the NFL is very high - Fields needs to make MUCH better decisions and execute effectively when opportunities present themselves.

Be coached less?  I guess watching film isn’t a high priority either.   I heard Brady and other “better QBs” watched as much film as they could.
 

LOL - He needs to learn a LOT.

He senses his impending doom.

He should have expected it as soon as he transferred to OSU.

Bears could have the #1 and #2 draft picks next year.

They might also be better off for it.

He actually went out and spoke to the media again to clarify that all areas of the bears are struggling, himself included.

Doesn't give him a pass for his play, but by all accounts he is a really good person, just not a good NFL QB.

This is the buckeye that didn't go to college to "play school", no??

Everyone was going crazy last year that figured it out and was good just because he could break off big runs when scrambling. 

Bears fan, but I'm done making excused for Fields. At some point every great/functional QB has overcome something, be it bad coaching, lack of talent around them, injury, Ect. and won games. 

Fields made Baker Mayfield look like Tom Brady on Sunday. I'm not high on the coaching or the ownership but last week was the fist time I said Fields just ain't it. 

Now the Bears defensive coordinator just resigned...

Justin Fields would like to play against teams that are meaningfully worse than the Bears, and have the three best WRs in his portion of the game to throw to.  That does not seem hugely likely in the NFL, but guy’s gotta dream, right?

I say this as a Lions fan but sometimes a QB is exactly who you think he'll be in the pros, and the book on Fields in college was he was slower than you'd like reading and reacting to plays and  that largely bore out in the pros.  While it's fine in college to be "deliberate" when you're barely touched and throwing to NFL receivers matched up against middling college players, it doesn't work in the NFL and it's the one thing I'll give Stroud over the more recent OSU QBs in that he does seem to act quickly and read the defense.  

Fields is an elite athlete and maybe he turns into a serviceable QB in another system with better coaching but it's rare to imagine a guy suddenly "getting" it.

He's got some of that "didn't come to play school" in him.  

People old enough to remember Joey Harrington said almost the exact same thing, and was frustrated with Mariucci.  He riled up the fan base by saying it, as if it were rebelling against the Fords .. he did ok a few games until the league learned his tendencies.

Just do it.

He already was.

The only thing that's going to fix the Bears is the McCaskey's selling the team. They've been around far too long and the whole organization needs to undergo a complete gut renovation. 

This is reminiscent of when advisors to a struggling political campaign say “we’re just gonna let [candidate] be [candidate].  
 

it doesn’t end well.  
 

I hope it works!! Some players just play better when they don’t think twice… there is a thing called over coaching.. as far as I’m concerned, once a player goes to the NFL I really don’t give a shit where they played college… I hate OSU, MSU and ND. However if a player from there helps the lions win a superbowl I’ll root for them! 
 

mom not like the MSU fan base that actively roots against Adian while rooting for the lions. 
 

good for him I hope he crushes it!

Justin Fields would like to write in crayon. Justin Fields eats paste.

Sounds like JaMarcus Russell.

My biggest fear is that Lions will turn into the Bears once we get over the hump.  Get to the Super Bowl once every 20 years with some random meaningless playoff appearances in between. 

Terrible team top to bottom 

As a packer fan, I endorse this attitude