OT: Bolivians -- This is your thread to request clemency.

Submitted by Billy Ray Valentine on

In the earlier Isaiah Hole CB thread, several Bolivians surfaced to make their case for clemency.  I posed the question in the Moderator Action Sticky whether a thread dedicated to clemency requests would be permitted.  One of our gracious moderators indicated that the thread would be allowed, and it also may be a good recipe for humor.

 

Humor is the hope here, especially self-depricating humor.   Plead your case.  Non-Bolivians should weigh-in either in support or against clemency.  Please do not get political.  And please, do not re-post the exact same material that led to your Banhammer, unless it is in the context of what not to write.

 

Assuming we can have nice things, a thread like this might be entertaining every few years.

 

One final note -- I hope the moderators see it in their heart to consider at least one, if not more, application for clemency, assuming the user shows true remorse and accountability without qualification.  

 

(fingers crossed on this one)

justingoblue

January 18th, 2017 at 6:45 PM ^

I know I've been mostly silent lately but this sounds like fun.

I don't want to unequivocally say I'll do at least one but I'll almost definitely do at least one.

Billy Ray Valentine

January 18th, 2017 at 7:04 PM ^

His remorse seems legit.  I thought his poop thread was extremely ill-conceived, not funny, and worthy of the banhammer because it was an original post.  That said, it did seem like a moment of diarrhea-induced weakness.

 

I hope he comes here to fall on the sword.

 

And no ... I'm not Flenderson.  Nor am I Wolverine in a Bag.  Nor am I RDT.

 

If RDT does post in this thread, I swear I'm doing a victory lap around my neighborhood, though.

Section 1.7

January 19th, 2017 at 12:30 AM ^

I've got a response to this, LSA, that I think the MGoReadership might find interesting.

11W has gotten big, and as with all big blogs, the comment quality has gone down, and the moderation has gotten more suspect.  But I always thought that the 11W mods had a nice light touch until the last year or two.  When I was a member there -- as "M Man" -- I said so to them.  I had more "helmet stickers" than most of the regulars.  Jason Preistas (a really terrific guy) put some of my posts on the front page of the blog as content.  I've met Matt Gutridge (super nice guy) and their intern Kevin Harrish (fantasitc kid) and I know their moderator Andy Vance (the very best moderator on the site, and a wonderful person).  When I was banned, it was a very big in-house controversy among their staff.

So why was I banned?  I'd like to write a reeeallly long ("not again, Section 1!") post about that.  In a word, I was kicked out, personally and solely by Ramzy Nasrallah, who confessed to not really being a moderator but he sort of made an exception for me.  I chastized Ramzy (in one of his posts about Jameis Winston) for calling Brendan Gibbons of Michigan a "rapist" (in an earlier post).  I told him and his readers that very much unlike the FSU/Winston case (this was before the Winston attack-movie, and before Stuart Taylor's demolition of that movie), the Brendan Gibbons case was investigated by two detectives and one chief of detectives and there was never so much as a suggestion of any interference by the Michigan athleitcs/football programs.  Gibbons, you may recall, volunteered for an interview with police without a lawyer; he fully cooperated; and he agreed to take a polygraph (that police would never have administered, but they were testing him).

I actually got a suspension for posting that "offense."  The offense being an "off topic" post. That very evening, I saw Seth and Brian at the Penn State night game tailgate and laughingly told Seth, "Hey man, I think I am in the process of getting booted by Ramzy at 11W!"  Brian's response was, "Dude, we know you can write, you just need to tone it down a bit."

After the suspension time ran, and I was back on 11W, one of their regulars was joking with me in one of the Forums about getting suspended.  And, jokingly, I told him I had to be the only person in the rough-and-tumble history of 11W to have gotten suspended for a single off-topic post.  Ramzy later read that line and freaked out.  As with my first supension, Ramzy launched into an obscenity-laced tirade about "dumbfuck sandwiches," Michigan's "shitstain helmets" and penis-size.  My offense this time was "passive aggression."

Their readership loved it.

In an exit email to their whole staff, I advised that if Ramzy Nasrallah were writing for a real publication, and if he had written some copy that accused an NCAA football player of being a "rapist" (Ramzy's repeated term), and if that player had never been charged, tried or convicted of any crime, then an editor would have come to him and would have asked him to change it, and fast.  Then, the publication's general counsel would have told him, that he had to change it.  And then, if it hadn't already happened, the publisher would have fired him.  Surprisingly, that ended "M Man" at ElevenWarriors.com.  Huh.

I could go on.  Come on, you know you want me to go on!

Anyway, thanks for playing.  Cheers and sincere best wishes to Brian and Seth, and Go Blue!

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evenyoubrutus

January 19th, 2017 at 12:20 PM ^

I literally have no idea why you were so unpopular because back then I didn't read the comments much and when I did I wouldn't pay close attention to individual commenters, BUT, from what I have read in this thread, I envision LSAClassof2000 standing in front of a hoard of peasants, and they are shouting "Give us Barabas!"

Section 1.7

January 19th, 2017 at 10:34 PM ^

But it sure would have been ironic, if it had been a Title IX discussion.  I don't actually remember any Title IX "rants."

But it happened at ElevenWarriors; that is, on a few relevant occasions I brought up the lurking Title IX issues in collegiate athletics.  As so often happened, I took a whole lot of abuse, for jarring any of them with an opinion that they weren't expecting.  My winged helmet avatar earned a lot of hatred, no doubt.  But as I've already mentioned, something was working there since I had amassed enough helmet stickers that some thought I was getting "sympathy votes" as a rival.

Best of all, and as I have also previously mentioned, ElevenWarriors ran with a very light and toughtfully hands-off approach to moderation.  And so I didn't get a lot of PC pushback on something like Title IX.  And it led to these comments, after the dust had settled on the Jon Waters/OSU Band investigation; including 11W Moderator Andy Vance's observation that I had taken "heaping piles of crap from the commentariat for being 100% right about this situation."

Section 1.7

January 19th, 2017 at 11:23 AM ^

It's a funny thing; back when Rich Rodriguez was the head coach, and I was defending Rodriguez and attacking the Free Press, I was popular.  (I think I had 25,000+ MGoPoints when I was taken out.)

Then, when I continued to defend Rodriguez in the Brady Hoke era, I became unpopular.  Something, it seems, about my appearing not sufficiently loyal to the new regime.  Just reflect on that; I was felt to be disloyal to Brady Hoke (and of course I had very little comment on Hoke, good, bad or indifferent) just by continuing the case that Rich Rodriguez was treated unfairly by elements within Michigan.  Brady Hoke!

Time supplies some perspective, doesn't it?

As for my comments on Title IX; there were a lot of them, weren't there?  At ElevenWarriors as "M Man," after Brendan Gibbons was expelled by the University of Michigan, I told all of the Buckeyes in no uncertain terms: this will happen to you.  Someday, there will be a star Buckeye football player who, while never charged with any crime, will nonetheless be taken out by a Title IX action that has been instituted under the Department of Education Office of Civil Rights' "Dear Colleague" letter.  And you won't like it.  Remember what I wrote about the Gibbons case, when that happens...

Six months later, OSU fired band director Jon Waters, with hundreds of band alumni protesting the action.  And still later, Urban Meyer angrily and publicly parted ways with OSU administration (something he's never done before or since) and said he disagreed with The University's expulsion of Torrance Gibson.

Told ya.