OT: Archie Miller fired from Indiana
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Yeah, this was expected, least shocking "breaking" news today.
March 15th, 2021 at 12:02 PM ^
That crazy fanbase will demand Brad Stevens, but I am betting that Steve Alford will return home.
March 15th, 2021 at 12:08 PM ^
He might kick the tires. Danny Ainge seems content to do nothing with all those top picks they accumulated over the years. I don't see Boston winning a title with their roster.
Maybe he takes over for Kyyzssieysnfbdksski one day.
March 15th, 2021 at 12:34 PM ^
It would be incredibly shocking if Stevens left Boston to go back to coaching college in Indiana. In interviews it’s sounded much more likely that when he leaves the Celtics he will leave coaching altogether than find another team. I don’t think he’d enjoy major college basketball recruiting at all, either.
Also, Stevens will be coaching into at least June with the extended NBA schedule, and that has to be beyond any reasonable timeline Indiana has to wait on someone to seriously consider their offer.
Stevens isn't willingly going back to college, when Beilein made the jump Stevens was one of the people he called and Stevens told him coaching in the NBA is more enjoyable
I can't imagine anyone with pro job options leaving the NBA to go to college until the name and likeness stuff gets squared away. It's such a big unknown until that gets fixed, and he's got a great reputation at the NBA level. If things are getting stale in Boston he'd have tons of options around the league without the headache of recruiting.
Juwan says hello.
Not even remotely the same. Juwan's never gotten the head job in the NBA and he came to his alma mater that he has an emotional attachment to. People in Indiana expect Brad Stevens to leave the NBA for a school he never went to just because he's from the state!
It'd put a lot of money on it being Alford or Beilein
I'd bet the farm on it NOT being Beilein. After all his well-known distaste for recruiting and the dirtiness of college basketball at the highest level, why in the heck would he go to a pressure cooker like IU at age 68? Makes zero sense.
I'd agree with you, True Blue, except I never thought he'd leave Michigan to coach at Cleveland either. The guy loves to coach, and follows his own path.
Coach Beilein has proven to be pretty enigmatic.
March 16th, 2021 at 10:10 PM ^
Why would he leave UM to go to the NBA at age 67? I can see him doing it. What did he say in that interview, people don’t know me very well?
Beilein is 68 and not that far removed from heart surgery. Given his opinions and extreme distaste on the landscape of college recruiting, I’m not sure that he wants to go to a program with even higher expectations than Michigan has. They will be expecting him to compete for national titles by the time he enters year two.
If this was ten years ago, maybe even five, I could see it. I’m just not sure that he wants to undertake this kind of stress at this point in his life. Especially after his less than ceremonious exit from the NBA. I could be dead wrong, but he seems like the kind of guy who is perfectly content to spend his remaining time in Ann Arbor, do some occasional BTN commentating, go on alum fundraising trips once the pandemic is over, and maybe teach a class.
Just as long as they don't go after Beilein
Brian Cook may be on suicide watch with all this Beilein to IU talk.
I'd have mixed feelings about Beilein at IU. Want to root for him no matter where he ends up but I have a problem with him at IU. I consider that school and fan base the 2nd most arrogant BB a-holes right being the king a-holes - the whiner and MSU
IU grad, Indy native, and IU bball fan here. All the posters on Inside the Hall (rough equivalent to this blog but for IUBB) are fairly reasonable with their takes, including me. I liken us getting Stevens to UM getting Harbaugh. It was never going to happen, until it did. A bit different since Harbaugh was an alum, but Stevens is from Indiana and already coached in state at Butler so has connections throughout the Midwest. Celtics fans seem to want him gone. So please, Mark Cuban and Mellencamp open up the pocket books again and make it happen.
I’m realistic though. Stevens would be a home run, but I’m thinking maybe Scott Drew from Baylor (from Indiana, dad coached Valpo, he coached at Butler). If we can’t get Stevens I would like Drew as our best case realistic scenario. Chris Beard will get a call I’m sure, but he’s making like $4.5 a year at TT. He did coach under Bobby Knight though so maybe he could be swayed to leave. Dane Fife would be an interesting hire. Long tenure under Izzo, well respected amongst his peers, still young and was on the team that finished runner up in ‘02. A dark horse to keep an eye on is Thad Matta. He’s still in his early 50s and won at Butler and OSU. I don’t know what’s up with his health issues, but if he wants back into coaching that would be an ideal spot close to home. I don’t see Beilein as a real option. If it were 10 years ago sign me up...but he’s nearly 70. Best case would be what, 7-8 years and then looking for a new coach again?
If you’re wondering why I’m here, I’ve had season tickets to the Big House since ‘92. I live in California now but fly back for all the big games each year. Unfortunately for me, life was much easier as a fan of both programs prior to ‘00 or so. It’s pretty eerie how similar IU bball and Michigan football trajectories have been since 2000. Both clear top 10, really top 5 programs all time that haven’t gotten it right in a long, long time at head coach. Here’s hoping Harbaugh turns it around...because my fear is if he can’t win big at UM...who can?
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+1 on Scott Drew. Name has been circulating among faculty for a while. The lack of a search committee indicates a deal is probably in place.
March 15th, 2021 at 12:03 PM ^
The guy who "broke" the Livers injury on friday night also said this. I wonder if he's a new insider. Forget his name.
Also, the Beilein rumors will get going too.
March 15th, 2021 at 12:15 PM ^
When (if) Beilein sings with IU, I will continue to root for him because he's a good person and a great coach - but a better person. But it will suck mambo-ass to have him coaching against Michigan 2-3 times/year. Blah...
March 15th, 2021 at 12:38 PM ^
What song would he sing? I hear he has a lovely singing voice.
March 15th, 2021 at 12:42 PM ^
Per Moe Wagner, Beilein's gotten into German hip-hop.
Mambo-ass No. 5?
Might be just one game a year with unbalanced schedules.
After watching Beilein on the B1G Network, I gotta say it seems like his age is catching up with him. It's not like he is forgetting his children's names, but he seems at a loss sometimes during the back and forth banter with Revsine.
Being a native Hoosier and having played, coached and officiated HS BB there...Beilein's style of play is about as "Hoosier" as it gets. Otherwise, he would be crazy, at 68 years of age, to take up this (thankless) rebuilding task.
All he needs is to get Jimmy Chitwood on his side and the Big Ten would be in big trouble.
Boys, we're gonna run the picket fence at 'em...Now, don't get caught watching the paint dry.
Maybe that guy is an insider, but I don't think it's that shocking that a bad coach on the hot seat got fired the day after the BTT.
March 15th, 2021 at 12:09 PM ^
I never really understood why they fired Crean. He brought that program back from the dead and while he had a couple of off years in there, he also won a pair of Big Ten titles. They fired him one year after his second title.
March 15th, 2021 at 12:14 PM ^
I ask the same thing about Nebraska's decision to fire Tim Miles.
Miles had Nebraska competitive in the Big Ten, which if you're Nebraska is probably as much as you could hope for. Look at them now!
March 15th, 2021 at 12:16 PM ^
Yeah, the Miles firing was another headscratcher. Though Hoiberg was a solid replacement choice, at least on paper.
Hoiberg in my mind was a home run hire, but he hasn't done anything good so far. Doesn't have a foundation at all and is about to go into year 3 after two 7 win seasons. Their only scorer is leaving. That's severely worrying.
Their 2021 recruiting class is ranked 3rd highest in the B1G and includes Nebraska's highest ever BB recruit in Bryce McGowens.
March 15th, 2021 at 12:14 PM ^
And if I remember correctly, it seemed Crean always had bad injury luck.
March 15th, 2021 at 12:22 PM ^
Crean was OK.
His teams in 2012 and 2015 were crazy talented and he could not get out of the sweet 16.
I do not blame them for rolling the dice on someone who could take them over the top. Just picked the wrong guy.
March 15th, 2021 at 12:28 PM ^
Yeah, I mean, I don't think he was the best bench coach. That team with Zeller and Oladipo was stacked. I couldn't believe Syracuse knocked them off.
I'm surprised they actually pulled the trigger on him though. You've got to be really confident that your next guy is the man to do that.
March 15th, 2021 at 12:28 PM ^
by your metric was gene keady any good? won conf titles but couldn't get far in the big dance.
March 15th, 2021 at 12:38 PM ^
Look at Keady's winning percentage. Look at Crean's winning percentage. Different situations I know, but the numbers are what they are.
To answer your question, yeah, I think Keady's very overrated. Dude never made a F4 in 25 years with Purdue. That's not good.
Crean's also been extremely underwhelming at Georgia through three years. Yeah, it's not the easiest place to win, but they have done nothing.
March 15th, 2021 at 12:51 PM ^
crean was 8-46 in the BIG his first 3 years at IU; 63-45 the next 6 yrs with 2 BIG titles and 3 sweet 16s. at GA he was 2-16 in the SEC in year one; 5-13 in yr 2 and 7-11 this year. i would say that is/was a good trajectory at both schools.
March 15th, 2021 at 12:54 PM ^
He's OK. I think he's a decent coach. No more, no less. Has had some success, but also very underwhelming when it counted most.
NCAA Tourney records - neither was very good, Crean had a great run at MU but Keady consistently underperformed his seeding.
Keady in 27 seasons - 2 E8, 5 S16 - 19-18 record
(tourney 1/2 at Western Kentucky, 17/25 at Purdue)
Crean in 21 seasons - 1 F4, 1 E8, 4 S16 - 11-9 record
(tourney 5/9 at Marquette, 4/9 at Indiana, 0/3 at Georgia)
Are you kidding? Crean sucks...talk about all recruiter no x's and o's kind of coach. As a Georgia fan said earlier on facebook "He led the league in fitbit steps on the sideline but as usual didn't get anything done".
Knight derangement syndrome.
Nebraska has it still twenty some years after Osbourne retired (Osbourne derangement syndrome)
I think Indiana's expectations for their basketball program are on par with our expectations for football. They consider themselves a blue blood.
I agree, although it's hard to admit. IU's basketball expectations have them aiming too high and constantly falling short. Rinse and repeat. Sounds and feels familiar.
Archie never made the tournament at IU and had a losing record this year. Firing him isn't about them aiming too high.
Although I don't necessarily disagree, that's hindsight. He was a solid up and coming young coach when they hired him and that ~$10M buyout shows their commitment (even though almost all D1 coaches have buyouts). He failed to deliver anything close to value on their investment so he's gone and they'll pay him to leave. Hiring and firing 5-6 coaches in 20 years shows how their expectations are too high. It's hard to find the right coach who will be as successful as they expect him to be but that many misses in a row says something.