Not really earth-shattering news or anything, but an interesting change nonetheless.
this may be of some local interest
Not really earth-shattering news or anything, but an interesting change nonetheless.
Good grief! Did they really ask him about the friggin' headset thing again? C'mon.
Because that gives him a direct view of all the things that the defense is trying to do (in terms of how they are adjusting, lining up, what they're running in certain situations, etc). You get that on the sidelines to a degree, but it's much, much more difficult. I like the actual guy calling plays in that instance to see that.
So hopefully this is a result of two things: Nuss is very comfortable with his support staff who will be taking those responsibilities now (I'm guessing Heck and/or maybe Ferrigno will be in the box, along with a GA and probably an offensive support staff). And that he believes this will help the offense as a whole stay more even tempered throughout games (get up when good things happen, but not too high, and never get too down).
On defense I have less of a preference, think there are positives and negatives to both, and you go by personal feel and feel of your team (I think the things you're looking for as a DC are more easily transferred from the box to the field, and directly from the players when they come off the field, so that the benefits of the box aren't as significant as they are for an OC). So I've never had an issue with G Matt on the sideline.
I'll reinforce that I don't think the OC on the sideline is a huge issue either. There are plenty that do it. For all intents and purposes, Rich Rod was on the sideline, but had his OC, Magee, in the box. It's just my preference, and would be my preference as an OC or as a HC to have the OC in the box.
I hate to say this, but I like how Narduzzi does things. In the booth for the first 3 quarters, on the ground for the last quarter. By then you've seen their schemes and now it's time to be in the middel of the fight.
From my understanding, he pretty much always starts in the box, but he'll jump down to the field at anytime during the game (when his defense is off the field). I think it's just a going by feel thing. He trusts his defensive staff well enough to do that (they've been together for so long and trust so much in the scheme, that it's fairly easy to trust one another in that instance). Think it's another way to skin a cat, some would argue consistency is important, but I think it's just one of those things that has it's pros and cons and doens't really outweigh other ways of doing it.
You mean Michigan's next coach if this year doesn't go as planned?
No offense, but that is just dumb logic. The thing that kept us from being a good team last year was offense. If we don't improve this year it is because the offense didn't progress under the tutelage of Nuss. So the answer to that would be broom the HC but keep the OC who couldn't change the offense enough to make improvements? That just doesn't make any sense. If our offense looks good our record will be good and both will be back.
but without late drives by PSU and Nebraska we win both of those games and you certainly can't blame OSU on the O.
Because 41 pts agains osu, 40 against penn st, 2 td lead at half against Iowa wasn't enough. Also avg 32 pts per game isn't enough to win games.
But after watching the painful Penn State game again, the coaches flat-out blew that game. Yes, offense scored enough to win (also, the defensive TD gave us the spark) and that last drive by PSU was crazy, but when you're up a TD with three minutes left, are driving well, and decide to go in a shell and fuck yourself out of field goal range for no reason and are forced to punt rather than go up 10, it becomes rather difficult to blame anyone but the coaches.
Also, Iowa was a travesty, but we went an entire goddamn half without scoring. AT IOWA. AND one of those TDs was defensive. That game's on the offense.
Like you said, there are certainly advantages to being in the booth and advantages to being on the sideline. IMO, having a relatively young offense, it makes sense for him to be on the sideline this year.
This, I think, is a key point. And even though Gardner is a senior, this is his first season with Nuss as his coach. There's a sports radio host here in Oklahoma who was a college QB and he said his preference was to have either a QB coach or OC on the sideline during games to help settle him down and convey info during the game that was often far more effective face-to-face than over a headset.
Oh it's earth shattering. Just check our rival's message boards. This and headsets are of the greatest concern.
Sandwich Watch 2014: Will Brady eat on gameday?!
I could be wrong but in some recent Hoke pics he actually looked like he dropped a few lbs. Also, either way, I think he could bear hug the life out of Dantonio or Meyer, maybe both at the same time. I think that is pretty cool.
and you are talking about them on our board. It must be the off season.
We don't need no stinking headsets......
and a headset though?
Not at first. Wearing a headset has to be earned.
I like this. Al always seemed so far away when they would show him sitting up in the box. I don't care about the headset thing. On or off, guy behind Hoke telling him every call, etc. I just like the fact that Nuss will be on the field coaching.
I'd love to see the mgomeltdown.
I think it would be a reason to generally be upset. He'll have people telling him immediately if something is drastically off, and will rely on those people in the booth to be his eyes up there. So he should, in general, have a headset on while coaching on the sidelines (at least while calling plays, when his players come off he'll talk to them directly without a headset I'm sure).
But, if the whole staff went without headsets and went to some sort of smoke signal-esque communication system, I'd find that funny in an awful, awful way.
I would like to know if Nuss did his coaching from the booth at Bama. Not that it would really point out his preference......, it could be that he tried the sideline but kept tripping over Sabans ego
Not sure what he did at Washington though.
I've never been an OC, but it seems like it'd be hard to tell what's going on from field level (reading blitzes/coverages, watching your line's performance, etc). I always assumed it'd be much easier to do from the box with the "All-22" view. I'm not criticizing Nuss, he obviously knows more than I do, but I'm curious why he'd want to be on field level? Maybe so he can directly communicate with DG?
Experience being an offensive coordinator? I doubt it so I guess this is just conjecture and a useless exercise
Not that it really matters all that much in this case, it isn't changing anything.
And I'm not really sure what you're trying to argue to begin with? What's conjecture and a useless exercise? This is what Nuss is doing.
I'm with you on this one - I'd rather he be upstairs if given a choice but if he's getting solid, reliable info it doesnt really matter. I also think you touched on the "why" in your earlier post in this thread when you said this would give him a better read on the emotions and psyche of the team.
If you've got a team that isnt real sure of itself and needs encouragement you want to be shoulder to shoulder with them on the field. But my question is - isn't that what Brady was suppose to be doing? I thought that he was sort of the "Chief Encourgement Officer" on the team. Or is that just for the defense?
Makes me wonder.
I get the same feeling that Hoke spent more time in his comfort zone with the defense last season. Also comments around the fact that he thinks Gardner can also be in the leadership group with continued effort this year also is a bit telling from the article this was pulled from and a bit more confirmation that not everyone rallied around the QB last year.
I think having Nuss on the sidelines coaching Devin and keeping more leadership presence will be a good thing. As long as the team in the box and he are on the same wavelength, this might be a very good move especially with such a young team on the offensive side of the ball.
As a matter of fact, yes I do. I prefer coordinating offense from the box and defense from the sideline. Answer your question Snarky McSnarkovich?
"I prefer coordinating offense from the box and defense from the sideline."
I tried to type the same thing on my phone, but it ate my comment.
Try doing both at the same time. Let me tell ya, it makes phone problems seem like child's play.
lack of expertise didn't stop you from conjecturing that Nik wasn't "NBA ready' just a couple of months ago.
from behind the QB when I'm on my X-box.
have have him on the side line for his energy and ability to lift players up and also set them straight. I'm sure whoever they put in the box is capable enough of handling the job, otherwise why are they there!
Completely agree. I think his presense on the field will be a huge plus. He can motivate the players and set them straight if they're doing something he doesnt like. He can coach the coach's on what he wants them to look out for out of the box. Also, he can directly talk with Hoke.
It made sense for Borges to be in the box because on game days he called the plays but did no real coaching. This is OK, and not uncommon. But it's possible Nuss wants to be more hands on with his guys when they're not on the field, and that's OK too. He'll need to rely on another coach to relay info down to him from the booth, but he'll be able to correct that stuff face to face.
I agree. I think there is a greater value in being able to talk to and walk amongst the players in person.
He can coach from a freaking toilet stall on gameday, as long as 27-for-27 never happens again.
Yes but what if he wears a pink tu-tu?
If Nuss coaches from the sidelines and the offense works, that's good.
If Nuss coaches from the sidelines and the offense doesn't work, that's bad.
If Nuss coaches from the booth and the offense works, that's good.
If Nuss coaches from the booth and the offense doesn't work, that's bad.
So, sounds like there's a 50% chance that this is good news.
The booth contains potassium benzoate.
yeah, this news basically confirms that he's preparing to be a head coach. Michigan is a pit stop for him.
fine by me, long as he leaves the program far better than where he found it
I like that Nuss will be on the field. As QB coach, it will be on him to get face-to-face with Devin and co. whenever they come off the field and start coaching them up, making adjustments, going over things immediately. There is no substitute for that type of contact, especially for a hands-on guy like Nuss.
Just put a hat on a hat and get to the second level.
I am good with him coaching in a box with a fox as long as the offense performs well.
I think what this tells us is that the focuse and hands on attention will be less to scheme and more attention to game time coachable moments.
“Number one, I’ll meet with Doug three times a week when we talk about the offense,” Hoke said. “I’ll sit in meetings with the offense. I’ll know what’s going on.”
This was something I found refreshing to read as well. I know that Hoke himself has lamented about perhaps not being hands-on enough, or rather not being as involved as he believes he should have been in retrospect. Not sure how often he had such meetings before, but it is nice to see this continuing especially with the new scheme.It seems even more important now that these continue (if not increase in frequency) with new schemes and a revamped staff really.
Brady's been a head coach for how long and he's just now figuring this out???smh
It seems that Hoke is just a spectator to what is going on and doesn't have hardly any input on what goes on in a game. I'm just used to in your face, and hands on coaches, like Bo, Moeller or Lloyd.
He's always done this. This isn't really a new thing. He's always been aware of what the offense was doing, sat in meetings, known the game plan going in, etc. For better or for worse.
Nuss could coach from the locker room wearing a wife beater and drinking tall boys of Miller Lite. As long as Michigan can run the ball and not constantly end up in 2nd and 9 and 3rd and 8 I will be happy.
Johnny Manziel in 5 years?
Can't they just put the game on a google glass so the coach can see the formations better but still be on the sidelines to talk to players? Larry Page should put this together and only give it to Michigan and Stanford.
Is this doable today? Can you link a webcam to google glass wirelessly? Just stick a camera in both end zones and link them up to a few glasses worn by coaches and they are all on the sideline with perfect views of the game. It doesn't seem like it would be that hard.
You can't do that because the NFL/NCAA outlaws such activity, which is why you don't already see it done. It would essentially be akin to having video capabilities on the sideline, which are not allowed.
Isn't that about recording? If it's a screen showing a live feed or a feed of the tv broadcast who cares? It hasn't been practical before but now that we have something like google glass it is. If someone on the sideline had a smartphone with a WatchESPN app that is against the rules? I don't know why coaches would be against it if it's fair for both sides. If it's against the rules then they can change the rules. Mark my words, in 10 years every coach in the NFL will have this.
"The "Game Operations Manual" states that "no video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches' booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game." The manual states that "all video shooting locations must be enclosed on all sides with a roof overhead." NFL security officials confiscated a camera and videotape from a New England video assistant on the Patriots' sideline when it was suspected he was recording the Jets' defensive signals. Taping any signals is prohibited."
This doesn't say that coaches can't watch a live feed or the tv broadcast. Maybe it's somewhere else in the manual. I don't know why they would care if a coordinator had a tv with the game on in the booth.
As far as only being able to transmit in-play still photographs, and being able to talk through the headsets/phone. Everything else has to be done on the field.
Now, that's not saying that can't change. I wouldn't be surprised to see teams start to utilize the technology in practice for a variety of reasons. And I wouldn't necessarily be surprised to see the NFL try to capitalize on in in terms of fan interaction. But I don't see it being allowed for player/coach/team interaction any time soon.
This would be legal for high school according to NFHS rules. Coaches and players on the sideline are allowed to look at video.
I wonder if this means we'll "audible" from the sidelines after getting up to the LOS and seeing how defenses line up.
I don't see that changing at Michigan. I think Michigan has a philosophy that they want to be pro-style and prepare their players for the pros. That means making the QBs comfortable making the correct adjustments and audibles themselves. I think that's a selling point they use in recruiting, I think that's something that they deem as their responsibility to the QB, and I think it's something overall they believe in.
Now, that's not saying that audibling from the sideline is a bad thing for the college game, and certainly people like Chip Kelly are doing it now from the sidelines in the NFL, but I just don't see Michigan or Nussmeier changing that this year. Not sure what he did at Washington with regards to this, but he also has NFL ties and I just think that's the position he wants to put his QBs in.
The thing is Borges seemed to have the handcuffs on completely for Denard and only gave Devin a very short leash (run left vs run right). I'd love to see us get out of some of the obvious disadvantageious situations for once (or taking advantage of the beneficial situations). If Nuss can teach Devin how to do that in one offseason, I'm all for it, but if not I'd love to see him screaming in plays from the sidelines, even if it's not really part of the system necessarily.
That's a requirement for a zone based run team.
I also think Nuss has more built-in adjustments as far as hots and extended hand offs that are simply a part of a playcall. Borges seemed to dabble in some packaged concepts, but clearly never felt comfortable with them to a great extent and so didn't rep them a ton. But I think those built in adjustments are a requirement for Nuss's offense because it is more simplified in terms of route structure, reads, etc.
It's similarly why tempo will likely come along quicker with Nuss's offense than it did with Borges (which I do believe was something Borges did really want to implement, as evident in the USC bowl game and to start the CMU game). With simplification, other aspects can begin to be repped early, and are necessary to rep earlier to make the offense more capable.
Fear the visor.
who cares. american football is a dying sport going the way of the dinosaur. Let's talk about the upcoming soccer season.
I can understand why you feel that way since you're a purdue guy.
Nope all michigan. I openly root against Purdue.
As long he doesn't sit on the ball like Borges I'll be okay with that. As long as he is not as dumb as Borges I think we should be okay.
He should just get a really tall ladder and have the best of both worlds.
It's sad that watching a campus insiders video that was posted on the board two ago qualifies as journalism these days. I almost miss Jim Carty.
This is clearly a result of orders from the AD.
A chair is freed up to sell as a luxury box seat. $$$$
Human nature being what it is, typically everyone steps it up a notch when the boss walks into the room. From Funk to Kalis, Funchess to Garder,Green to Kugler,et al, i expect everyone's gonna feel it tightening up a bit in the backside when a play or an assignment goes awry with Nuss staring down his visor on the sideline. I also see this as a big boost for Gardner to have actual coaching on the sideline during the game. This team-especially on the O side of the ball- needs leadership and confidence more than x' and o's, IMO, at least for this season.