Mortensen on NFL Live: Bill O'Brien to Texans imminent, will be done in 24 hrs
December 30th, 2013 at 4:27 PM ^
Harbaugh's name as a candidate for Penn State?
December 30th, 2013 at 4:29 PM ^
I think I heard the Lions are going to do a re-sign and trade, Schwartz plus 2 first round picks for Harbaugh.
December 31st, 2013 at 2:41 AM ^
Harbaugh away from the 49ers.
December 30th, 2013 at 4:27 PM ^
Wish he were staying
December 30th, 2013 at 4:39 PM ^
I just want to thank you for using the correct tense of the verb for the past perfect subjunctive contrary-to-fact conditional statement.
The Michigan Difference lives on.
December 30th, 2013 at 8:06 PM ^
Being a pompous ass is not the MIchigan difference. Many of us knew that "were" was not correct, but did not feel the need to peacock and point it out.
December 30th, 2013 at 8:35 PM ^
StateStreetApostle was complimenting the earlier poster for the proper use of the subjunctive... not being sarcastic, and so not being a pompous ass. "Were" is correct.
December 30th, 2013 at 4:28 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 4:36 PM ^
When you're a fan of one of the teams without a high-level coach, I can't see how it's a bad thing. It may be bad for OSU or MSU to have the conference lose prestige, but when Michigan is getting pantsed by every team with a good coach in the B1G, I see BOB's move as a good thing since it brings them closer to our level and makes us more competitive in the conference.
December 30th, 2013 at 4:51 PM ^
At some point, this sky-is-falling whiny nonsense will run its course. Maybe folks can start posting the gif of the dead horse being beaten by a stick.
By the way, we lost to PSU in 4 OTs after missing FGs. We lost to OSU when our QB with a broken foot was unable to connect on a 2-pt conversion. We didn't get "pantsed"; we played poorly given our expectations and have a team full of freshmen and sophmores. All of this "we suck" crying is ridiculous.
December 30th, 2013 at 4:58 PM ^
"Michigan is just six… eight… sixteen… okay, thirty-five plays away from a really good season, you know, and Lloyd Carr's seniors are about to ride to the rescue."
December 30th, 2013 at 5:08 PM ^
Yeah, that's totally what I wrote (which is likely why you put it in quotes). Of course, we were very close both to winning more games...and also to losing more games. It was a bad year. Period. That can happen when a team doesn't recruit linemen and loses a ton of players for a variety of reasons. We all wish it were a better year.
The point remains that your whining (and that of many on the blog these days) is pathetic.
December 30th, 2013 at 5:11 PM ^
I put it in quotes because that's what Brian (the guy who runs the blog) wrote on the front page today. If my reading comprehension is good, he was not-so-subtly mocking the state of the program and those who insist on defending the status quo.
December 30th, 2013 at 5:21 PM ^
My mistake, I guess I assumed that an unattributed quote following my comment would not be from a different person in a different thread. How dare I?
I guess there's "defending the status quo" (which was being "all in" or a "true fan" when RR was the coach) and then there's being realistic about a program missing, essentially, an entire year of recruiting. No one's waiting on Carr's players, but it's ok to wait for 18 year-olds to battle 21 year-olds. It sucks. Wish that weren't the case, but it is.
December 30th, 2013 at 4:55 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 4:29 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 4:44 PM ^
What about the Lio...........hey, I see what you did there.
December 30th, 2013 at 4:33 PM ^
Saturday after the rumors came out, B.O.B. supposedly talked with some of his recruits heading to the UA all american game and told them he wasn't going anywhere and what was in the news was just made up. I don't remember his exact words, but it came secondhand from TomVH.
If true, I'd feel bad for those kids being lied to, although B.O.B. was really in a tough spot.
Also tough luck for Penn State.
December 30th, 2013 at 4:38 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 4:39 PM ^
I don't think it's lying to say "I'm not going anywhere" when you haven't signed a contract to go somewhere else. Until the ink is on the paper, deals can (and do) fall apart all the time, so you're technically not going anywhere until you are technically going somewhere and therefore it's not a lie to say as much.
December 30th, 2013 at 4:47 PM ^
Definitely lying if you're planning on going somewhere. "I am staying," when uttered a day or two before leaving, is a lie. According to the kid, he didn't say "I don't have any plans to leave." He said "I will be there next year."
December 30th, 2013 at 4:50 PM ^
I guess my point is that "plans to go somewhere" fall apart all the time. Until they're memorialized, it's not a lie to say you are staying put for the foreseeable future.
December 30th, 2013 at 4:59 PM ^
Yeah, and if that's what he said, I have no problem with it. It's just that that isn't what the kid heard. We'll never know, but I feel for him if he thought he'd gotten confirmation that the coach that recruited him was going to be there and will now discover he's being ditched.
Obviously this all depends on whether O'Brien actually takes the job.
December 30th, 2013 at 4:42 PM ^
Thomas Holley is a 4/5* defensive tackle and their highest ranked commit. He said O'Brien talked on the phone with him after the report came out and he said was staying.
December 30th, 2013 at 4:55 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 5:07 PM ^
It's anyone's guess where he will end up at, but there's too much ground to make up late in the recruiting process for us.
December 30th, 2013 at 5:47 PM ^
I think your second paragraph is the key point. I'm not sure what a coach is supposed to say in these circumstances. Also, without being there, I'm not sure we can say he lied. The reports I heard had him saying something along the lines of "that's not true" when speaking on reports that him to the Texans was essentially a done deal on Saturday. I wouldn't be surprised if if he was vaguely honest with the recruits.
December 30th, 2013 at 6:17 PM ^
Lying to kids suck but it just means they lost 24 hours and if they have been working diligently this year then other colleges will want to poach them.
Tough to lose the guy you were coming to play for but that is part of the state of college football these days.
December 30th, 2013 at 4:34 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 4:39 PM ^
BOB and Bridgewater has the potential to be an insane combo, especially with a reciever like Andre Johnson there.
Could be next years KC.
December 30th, 2013 at 4:39 PM ^
Some reports from some decently credible folk on Twitter say the Lions have already contacted Brian Kelly.
December 30th, 2013 at 4:44 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 5:00 PM ^
Stafford will make Kelly's head explode.
December 30th, 2013 at 4:42 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 4:51 PM ^
I'd take Kelly over both of those guys. Gase is an up and coming guy, but anyone who thinks Peyton Manning isn't the offensive coordinator in Denver is nuts.
December 30th, 2013 at 4:58 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 5:13 PM ^
As I recall in the numerous stories yesterday, Ian Rapoport had said yesterday that he had source which told him that Dave Joyner - the Penn State AD - was seriously considering a trip to Tampa to gauge Schiano's interest in the position. If that is the case, then Penn State has been preparing to lose O'Brien in any case, it seems.
Other NFL teams that would have like to get O'Brien included Washington and Cleveland supposedly, but I couldn't find evidence that they had even managed to get an interview, and it likely will not happen if negotiations between O'Brien and the Texans are this advanced.
December 30th, 2013 at 4:47 PM ^
Feel a little bad for these kids at PSU. You bring in a guy to help the program through these sanctions and he bolts after 2 years. Now what?
December 30th, 2013 at 4:44 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 6:06 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 4:49 PM ^
I will say this about O'Brien - he's a good coach, and he's even better at reading the tea leaves and jumping on his success at PSU before the sanctions really hit them and he starts to lose. Not saying he won't be a success, but if you look at the talent on this squad the past two years it wasn't the tire-fire it probably will be once the loss of scholarships catch up and they have small senior classes. He would probably have kept them competitive, but guys like Robinson, Jones, and those offensive linemen were there when he showed up.
December 30th, 2013 at 5:14 PM ^
Didn't they get a reprieve from the NCAA? They won't have 85 scholarships available but didn't the NCAA soften what the initial penalty was?
December 30th, 2013 at 5:03 PM ^
Penn State's season opener in Ireland should be a bit more interesting.
December 30th, 2013 at 5:05 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 5:06 PM ^
When a coach says "I'm not going anywhere", they are usually already out the door.
December 30th, 2013 at 5:25 PM ^
But I can't blame him for leaving at all. We all knew he was an NFL guy to begin with and Penn State was, in all likelihood, a stopover rather than a destination.
Regardless of who their coach is next year, though, I hope we put a serious beating on them when they come to town. I'm still incredibly bitter about those miracle catches for them to win that game.
December 30th, 2013 at 5:37 PM ^
Wish the Lions would have fired Schwartz after the NYG game so they would have at least had a shot at getting O'Brien
December 30th, 2013 at 5:41 PM ^
How many great, desirable coaches are there in the Big Ten? Urban Meyer, Bill O'Brien, aaannndd....no one. Greg Schiano might be a decent hire for them but if that doesn't work, I fully expect them to pick off whichever coach from the MAC or AAC that most recently took a 7-5 team to 8-4. #B1G
December 30th, 2013 at 6:11 PM ^
Don't think this is good news. I mean yes maybe PSU is in a tougher position than us and we move up by default (although we did lose this year somehow when PSU should be at their weakest). Do we really want to move up the ranks in the Big Ten by other schools coming down?
Obviously not going to get worked up over this either because we have even less control there than we do over our own program. Just don't think this si good in the long run.
Anybody we can possibly get?