More player interviews (CB starter plot twist!)

Submitted by Gulogulo37 on September 1st, 2021 at 1:28 AM

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I may as well do this again. Vincent Gray got an interview. I thought that was interesting considering these usually go to starters, or at least people expected to get significant playing time. Hill-Green got one while Barrett did not, for example. Maybe Gray and Turner are still in a legit battle.

Almost every defensive player, not just the ones I've posted about, has said something about the benefits of the new defensive scheme and how it has more variety. All new coaches get talked up, sure, but a lot of players haven't been very shy about it. Gray sure as hell wasn't. "I was ready for a change, schematically". He said he played a lot of 0 coverage in high school and didn't learn that much coming to college. Yikes. Film study has improved and they know more of what to expect from different offenses. That may sound like sour grapes from a guy who didn't play well, but Day had Brown so figured out.

Speaking of that, Erick All also talked about the benefits of the new defense. He has a better feel for zones now and sitting in them and seeing more of what their opponents will do to defend them. And he's rooming with Cade and they play golf together!

Hinton said he missed the first half of spring camp because of covid. He was in meetings virtually but felt like he was behind a bit when he got back given the whole defense was new. He didn't say that much about being sick, so it sounds like it wasn't the physical toll but just the fact that he could only participate online for a while. They're more multiple up front now. He's playing on the interior but also some 4i (shaded inside the tackle, probably more on passing downs?). He was asked what he likes about the new scheme and said playing square up front, keeping their pads square to the line, so they're able to play their primary, secondary gaps. I think this is just saying they're not trying to bend and shoot gaps as much as before, and instead controlling blockers and gaps, like we've heard before with the 3-4, but I'm not 100% sure.

TheKoolAidGuy

September 1st, 2021 at 1:35 AM ^

The new NIL rules means that I can sponsor a “UM QBs Shall Not Golf in the Offseason” charity golf tournament, right? All proceeds go to Cade, JJ, Alan, Dan, etc? Right? RIGHT?

bsand2053

September 1st, 2021 at 2:17 AM ^

Thanks for this OP!

Frankly, given that every scheme change usually comes with just sunshine and rainbows from the players, it’s almost refreshing to see VG be plain spoken.  Makes it seem more sincere!

MaizeBlueA2

September 1st, 2021 at 5:25 AM ^

Gray is going to play, even if he's not the starter.

And he's older so in a camp battle, he's going to get the nod for an interview. 

I'm sure at the beginning of camp they would've thrown Filiana out there over Keegan...maybe not so much anymore.

But unlike LG. Both Turner and Gray are going to get snaps.

I envision an OR scenario with them for most of the year.

At this point, I'm most interested to see Moten and Paige. It sounds like Moten is at a point where he can basically be a starter and Dax can play the Nickel/3rd CB spot. If true, that's great!

If not, you lose the OR scenario with Turner and Gray because Gray absolutely CANNOT play NB. So now he's out on an island with little competition and Turner has to play inside...and who knows if he can cover guys going two directions like Dax can (who is just a notch below Jourdan Lewis when it comes to NB, IMO).

Gulogulo37

September 1st, 2021 at 7:45 AM ^

Maybe. Can't think of when we've had 2 CBs with near equal playing time. Maybe Stribling and Clark? But not sure it was that even.

Keegan did get an interview. Same day as the guys I'm posting about here. I didn't include his because I didn't think there was anything noteworthy. They want to run more, they feel good, etc.

ohaijoe

September 1st, 2021 at 6:12 AM ^

Has off-season golf become the new weight gain? All off-season golf is good because it promotes team bonding and relaxation, unless we learn later this particular off-season golf was bad.

Bo Harbaugh

September 1st, 2021 at 8:08 AM ^

Michigan QB's playing golf is perfectly symbolic of where our program has been the past 2 decades. Retired and focused on enjoying our sunset years.  

The elite 5-6 programs are 24-7 football factories 365 days a year. There's plenty to bitch about with Harbaugh and coaching, but if we are not going to be an NFL minor league prep factory - paying top dollar for top talent and running professional practices year round - the results simply won't be elite - it's just an unrealistic expectation.

Expecting to beat Wisconsin and PSU 60% of the time is fair and that's probably our ceiling given the current culture of the program / AD.

MGoStrength

September 1st, 2021 at 8:19 AM ^

I'm not super concerned who's starting week 1.  JH likes to reward guys for a good spring/fall camp by making them starters, even if they are not as good as guys behind them.  I think Mason started at DT at one point.  I think Jess Speight did the same.  Same with Vastardis.  Generally all things being equal, older, more experienced guys are likely to start over more talented, younger guys week 1 more so than week 6 for example.  But, this will work itself out over the semester.

bronxblue

September 1st, 2021 at 9:59 AM ^

It's weird people get worked up about golfing but if I told you players spent their down time playing COD, drinking, and trying to slide into the DMs of Instagram "models" that would be just as close to reality.  Shea Patterson playing a lot of golf wasn't close to the top reasons why the offense struggled in 2019.  

Christicks

September 1st, 2021 at 9:00 AM ^

Aw, shit, now you got me into a player interview YT loop!

Everyone needs to simmer down about kids playing golf in their spare time.  Most are on campus all summer....better getting together to play a sport than doing other dumb stuff.

WorldwideTJRob

September 1st, 2021 at 9:05 AM ^

Gray said he played zero coverage in high school(man coverage with no safety help) but was lost when he got here. Isn’t that what Don Brown asked him to play? Sometimes it is less about X’s and O’s and more about Jimmy’s & Joe’s. Last season we just didn’t have the talent on the outside that we were used too in previous years.

Blue@LSU

September 1st, 2021 at 9:48 AM ^

I think All's comment will be important. I've often wondered if the offense had problems because they didn't see much zone in practice. Hopefully, practicing against a mix of man and zone, or at least a well-run zone, will help both the QBs and WRs this year.

bronxblue

September 1st, 2021 at 9:55 AM ^

I always assumed Gray would play a good deal as the 3rd corner, especially if they wound up playing around with Nickel a bunch, so this isn't a total surprise.  I do think people's memory of Gray froze from that MSU game and while he's definitely limited he did get better as the year progressed.  Like, he had 2 PBUs vs Wisconsin and another against IU and I thought he was solid tackling against Rutgers.  He definitely shouldn't be your #1 corner but if he's a Brandon Watson-type you're probably in good shape against anyone other than OSU.

I do get a sense that the defense really struggled last year with a lot of turnover and limited practice time in the offseason to get everyone on track.  That alone gives me hope this year will be better because they had a normal offseason.

bronxblue

September 1st, 2021 at 11:17 AM ^

I don't even know if you can blame Harbaugh fully for it - he hired Shoop in January 2020 to coach the safeties (I assume) in person and then the pandemic hit and Shoop apparently couldn't/wouldn't meet in person with his players and then...that happened.  Like, I guess he could have fired Shoop but (a) I'm not sure the legality of firing someone for not wanting to be around potential sources of a deadly pandemic, and (b) I'm not sure who you hire who, on paper, would be any better by that point.  I will take Harbaugh to task for not doing better than a GA (who apparently was the one actually instructing the safeties) but nobody handled that situation particularly well.  

NOLA Wolverine

September 1st, 2021 at 12:38 PM ^

Can't say it's surprising that Gray played Cover 0 all the time in high school. Would be a waste of resources to give help to a D1 athlete playing corner against pretty much any high school team in Michigan. 

so bored at work

September 1st, 2021 at 12:55 PM ^

Hinton having been out/limited with covid is the big takeaway for me. Makes the lack of buzz around his development seem much less bust-y, especially without a full camp last year. If he is back to 100% (obviously, concern #1), in-season improvement seems a lot more probable than it did before this came out.

Vote_Crisler_1937

September 1st, 2021 at 1:39 PM ^

I’m so sick of hearing about players taking time to golf. I don’t follow Ohio St. anything but I really doubt any of their players have mentioned golf. If that’s the case then something has changed in the last 15 years and you kids get off my lawn. 

I played a Big Ten varsity sport and while many of my teammates were experienced golfers, I never, ever, heard them discuss it as something they did during their time in college and I certainly never saw any of them go play. Summers were spent lifting, running, stretching, and engaging in endless drills/competition.

Even guys who went back home to FL or TX for the summer came back with more muscle and faster sprints. They all talked endlessly to us about their regimens and how they improved. If anyone was playing golf it didn’t get brought up in our locker room, let alone to the media. 

Down time was video games, girlfriends, and drinking games; two of those didn’t begin before sundown. 

gbdub

September 1st, 2021 at 4:19 PM ^

Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers were literally just on TV golfing with pros. Both have single digit handicaps. Somehow "Being an elite football player" and "golfing as a pretty serious hobby" are quite compatible. I highly doubt the first time they picked up clubs was post college.