Magnus is compiling results from Michigan's Pro Day over at TTB
http://touchthebanner.blogspot.com/2013/03/michigan-pro-day-results.html
BWC apparently put up 35 reps on the bench. I can't believe he wasn't invited to the combine.
Just glanced over at some of
So, as it turns out, Kovacs
So, as it turns out, Kovacs was a good football player in part BECAUSE he is a good athlete and not necessarily in spite of the fact that he isn't. I know that 4,58 isn't a blazing time, but it is definately not bad. His shuttle time is above average for his position and he jumped higher and farther than roundtree. I am starting to see that kid as having a really nice pro career.
4.58 looks pretty good.
T6/17 for safetys that ran at the NFL Combine.
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-draft/2013/2/26/4033432/nfl-combine-res...
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Doesn't it seem though that
Doesn't it seem though that Pro Day stats are always better than NFL combine stats?
You know, Dude, I myself dabbled in pacifism once. Not in 'Nam of course.
The timers aren't the same,
The timers aren't the same, so the numbers that come out of there are a little more slanted toward the "home team" at a pro day. Scouts usually add a smidgen of time to a guy's times at a pro day.
The info is appreciated, but
The info is appreciated, but why does it always look like you have people plug you in on purpose, then within minutes you come lurking? You come off a little thirsty for attention.
He runs a good site
And lurks on mgoblog
"why does it always look like you have people plug you"
So you're saying that Magnus has specifically arranged for Still in AA to "plug" his site, so that he can then respond to a question here on MGoBlog.
Jesus Christ.
Exactly, and even if that was somehow true,
Who the F cares?
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Somehow true? That might be
Somehow true? That might be one of the easiest things to do considering there's no IP tracking on this site. In fact RDT and Wolervineinabag (See: the same person) did just that, going as far as interviewing himself. I'm not saying Magnus has done this for half a decade, but I am saying this has definitely been done before.
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I agree that it's possible,
I agree that it's possible, but I'd like to think that I've been around for people to realize that I wouldn't do something like that. Regardless, I post links to my site when there's relevant information that is board-worthy, so if I intended to post a link to any of my blog posts, I would just do it myself - and there's plenty of evidence of that.
Sounds like a dick question,
Sounds like a dick question, bro. I tend to trust Magnus' opinion of football talent on this blog because he's actually, ya know, a guy who actually COACHES FOOTBALL. Unlike the rest of us who just watch from our couch or the sidelines.
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it has to be true
it's on the internet..... do you really know that he is a coach? Just because he says so has to be the truth? I know, trolling....
or....
from a couch on the sidelines......
I don't know the dude but I
I don't know the dude but I do enjoy his site. I also like it when he posts here because Brandon Graham is a very handsome man.
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I enjoy pictures of hot girls
I enjoy pictures of hot girls with little or no clothing, so I like TTB. The football coverage is a bonus, though.
When I notice an uptick in
When I notice an uptick in traffic to my website from a certain place (for example, this thread), it's pretty easy to click on the link and find out why it's being linked. If you think that means I'm thirsty for attention, that's your prerogative.
Magnus give a lot of good
Magnus give a lot of good info. Why are you on here with a -215? Just to talk crap?
I've always thought that
I've always thought that Kovacs was blindly given the presumptuous white dude labels. I've always contended that he's a good athlete. Maybe not "elite" but unquestionably better than many would give him credit for. Maybe I'm simple, but I figure you don't start 4 straight years at a B1G school without being a good athlete (even though two of those years featured some of the worst defenses EVER). One thing I always noticed was his closing speed. Dude was pretty much a heat-seeking missile on blitzes and run support.
I'd love to see him playing at the next level. Feel good story feels good.
Like you said, he's not an
Like you said, he's not an elite athlete. He's not a bad athlete, either, but I think you'll struggle to find particularly athletic plays he made throughout his career. For example, what leaping catches or pass breakups did he make? When did he chase someone down from behind? He's a good athlete who was a very fundamental football player, but if he had run these drills at the Combine, the times probably would have been a little slower.
It is amazing what great
It is amazing what great athletes these guys are. They get labeled as not so good athletes when compared to other guys but in reality all these guys are freaks compared to regular people. Kovacs numbers are astounding for someone who is tagged a limited athletically.
I wish I could jump 3 feet straight up in the air. Division 1 athletes are ridiculous.
Get busy living or get busy dying.
Kovacs ran a 4.58
and unathletic white guy dreams everywhere were crushed
Kovacs
Kovacs' times seem pretty good for someone who was always considered to be not quite athletic enough. 4.58 forty, 6.62 3-cone, and 4.19 shuttle to go with a 35" vertical and a 10'2" broad jump.
Edit: apparently everyone else noticed too...
Kovacs
Let me be the 1st to put the obligatory post up linking Kovacs to the Lions. I actually think it's a good fir, but we all know any Michigan player is supposed to be a good move.
Yes, always happens
but I also think that Kovacs would be good fir the Lions. They need smart players in the defensive backfield, something they don't get a lot of.
The Team, The Team, The Team
You can take that farther.
You can take that farther. The Lions need safties, special teams players, and players who won't make headlines for all the wrong reasons. Kovacs has the hat trick.
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As I was talking to my buddy something dawned on me. He's probably just a 7th rd free agent type, but isn't Kovacs the perfect special teams player? Fast enough, smart and can tackle anything in an open field. Lions don't need that though.
We definitely need tacklers.
We definitely need tacklers.
He doesn't seem like a good fir to me
I see Kovacs as a bit more stout, like a good oak.
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Kovacs put up a 4.58? WOW!
Kovacs put up a 4.58? WOW! That is blazing for a safety. Impressive.
Not really "blazing." It
Not really "blazing." It would have put him at 10th among safeties if he were at the NFL Combine.
A link above indicates he would have been tied for 6th
There were four players who didn't run, so if you include them as running above 4.56 he'd be tenth, but otherwise it looks like 6th.
NFL.com says
NFL.com says differently:
http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers#year=2013&workout=FORTY_YARD_D...
If those numbers for Kovacs
If those numbers for Kovacs are considered legit, I can't believe he wouldn't be drafted. His instincts aside, those are fantastic numbers, easily worth a late round pick. You could do much worse than get a high-character, never say die special team's ace in the 7th round, and those numbers say capable backup at the very least.
On other notes, was Denard on display at the Pro day? And is there any knowledge of what teams are actually there?
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Campbell's 35 would have tied
Campbell's 35 would have tied him for 2nd amongst DL at the combine, and some of those guys basically only bench press and struggled through other drills.
Kovacs putting up some good times. Again, I don't see him getting drafted, but he's a guy who made plays for years against good players in a top conference. He won't be afraid of matching up with guys in the pros, and I could see him carving out a nice little career in the NFL for at least a year or two.
I don't think Campbell's size
I don't think Campbell's size and strength were ever in question. It's always been: does he have the technique to use them? I wish all the best for Big Will, I just hate to think he waited a year too long to "get serious". What could have been...
BWC
BWC's 35 wouldve placed him 3rd, behind Margus Hunt (38), Brandon Williams (38), and Akeem Spence (37).
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That would actually be
That would actually be fourth.
And anyway, there were three guys who put up 36 reps - Bohanon, Herman, and Washington.
So Campbell would have been #7 in the bench press.
EDIT: Never mind. I see you were talking about DL only. Campbell would have been #3 on the DL, but he would be #7 overall.
Kovacs will be like Molk next year
We all knew he was great, but we won't truly realize how great he was until we're watching the team play without him.
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This is scary and probably
This is scary and probably true...can't underestimate intelligence and leadership, especially as a safety.
Great reporting Magnus
Are you getting updates from Singletary or merely posting what Michigan football is posting all day on Twitter ?
As to Kovac's speed - 4.5 to 4.6 for a safety with good instincts is fine. So much confusingly placed on a tenth of a second in football times. Safeties start down field and usually come up on players running or in routes. A moment of hesitation or not reading a coverage can easily make a "burner" 4.3 guy in perfect situations a 4.6 guy or worse. His speed and measurables physically are good enough. Good open field and all around tackler, certainly has the determination and perserverance you would look for, has the inteligence, and has a good resume. Will be a great later round "get" for a team and with a little luck can have a good multi-year career.
This may have been covered
This may have been covered already, but if so I missed it..... Did Denard not participate in the Pro Day workouts?
He was planning to do some of
He was planning to do some of the drills he couldn't at the combine (e.g. bench and some throwing).
I love a hoppy ending!
According to Twitter, Denard
According to Twitter, Denard took reps at wideout, kick / punt return and even some at running back. Supposedly, he did not throw at all (even though he said he wanted to / was going to).
Someone also said he did not drop any passes or kicks / punts.
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From the mgoblue.com press
From the mgoblue.com press release: Robinson's Pro Day consisted of positional drills, and he looked impressive, not dropping a ball while receiving punts and passes.
Man even if he's a late round
Man even if he's a late round pick I still wanna see Kovacs get drafted.
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It's mentioned on touch the banner that he did 16
It's mentioned on touch the banner that he did 16 reps at 225. Does anybody know where that would have placed him compared to the rest of the safeties at the combine?
Jeez, probably not that high.
Jeez, probably not that high. I'm just a guy and I can probably do that many. And I'm smaller than Kovacs and not a terribly strong guy.
Not sure about that
Don't know if you are being sarcastic or not but I don't think just some random guy can throw up 16 reps. I think we get used to looking at all of these combine numbers and are quick to judge but 16 is pretty impressive.
I could do like a 1/4 of a
I could do like a 1/4 of a rep and then die. Does that make me a normal man?
Just glanced over at some of the numbers at the news site that shall not be named. Kovacs with a 35" vertical and BWC with 35 reps both stand out big time. It looks like BWC might make himself some money if he puts up some good numbers in the agility drills.
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