Must be frustrating to be GERG and know this defense will give up 500 yards and 30 points no matter what you call. RR and player presser videos are up (click youtube in my signature).
Lloyd Brady looks like he's maturing. Seriously this is painful to watch. I don't envy Brian's job of UFR'ing it up.
Not sure I have the stomach to watch this one.
When did this happen? I had my buddy use a Neuralyzer on me sometime that evening.
I watched this expecting to be disgusted. Surprisingly, I was almost a bit encouraged. Specifically in the first half, we held them to hardly any first downs (2 facemasks killed us) and absolutely stuffed everything but two HUGE plays. You can't discount those, but this was not a case of consistent incompetence. Iowa runs a similar offense to State's, but it is in my opinion not as good.
Only five minutes in, but Mike Martin is fucking good. Not that we didn't already know that, but I just thought I'd throw it out there.
Dang, we look great! Strange decision by the schools to flip colors on us though... thought there would be more bad feedback from the fanbase on that decision.
That #45 looks like a hell of a player. I think he has the potential to be an All American.
Too soon man (/s)... every time somebody's said the word easy the past few days, my heart has ached a little
With all the bad decisions, poor tackling, and getting destroyed by every block, I look for Ezeh to break all records when it comes to this week's UFR.
cam will be in the running. don't think he made a play all game. and he's supposed to prevent the big plays. i mean c'mon, you're 20 yds off the line and you can't get to the RB on those big plays?
He just need a couple more years in a college strength program and a bit more time to learn the nuances of the position.
Can we have like 4 do overs?!?!?! We could make that so much less painful.
I'm gonna go put the kids to bed and say goodnight to my wife before viewing this.
I think that's best for everyone.
To be honest, I blacked out after the second interception (long story, and you don't want to hear it) so could I ask...where is the offensive video?
Also, it'll make us all less likely to say stupid stuff about how GERG should die, etc.
I find this video "offensive" don't you? lol
Looks like Ezeh was unblocked on both run long plays. In both plays, he attacked a gap that was already filled. Leaving huge holes as he ended up on the wrong side of the a mass of players. Allowing the rb to get through the second level with speed.
Magnus, Sharik please advise.
Not trying to pile on the kid, because there's no way to know what his assigment was. It's very possible the d lineman attacked the wrong gap as well.
As much hate as Ezeh has received over the past couple days, after watching this video for some replays, I really do think both long TD runs are on Mouton and the safety. Ezeh looks like he's maintaining his gap responsibility while Mouton is failing to read properly and getting blocked.
I could be wrong because you never can tell what a guy SHOULD be doing, but I think Ezeh (once again) got a bit of a bad rap for this game.
I thought on one of the long runs, the announcers even made a comment how Ezeh overpursued the run and shut down the outside gap instead of the inside gap, which led to the MSU RB cutting upfield for the TD. Perhaps I'm wrong. Or perhaps it was Millen.
I wasn't listening to much of the commentary. I usually don't. But at least on Baker's run, it seemed that Mouton was the one who overscraped.
It did look like there were two gaps to fill on Bell's run and Ezeh chose the wrong one, but I don't know how he's supposed to choose which gap to fill; that one also looked like it may have been Mouton's responsibility.
It's tough to know, just seems that when he's unblocked and vacates the exact hole the rb flies though. it's tough to see anything else.
A strong safety fill would hold this down to 10-12. However that can usually be said about all long runs including it seems most of Denard's. Plus without the rb getting slowed it all, it's a tough fill for the safety.
Thanks for the knowlege.
Yeah, the thing is, as soon as flow goes to the right, Ezeh books it for that outside gap. He didn't even delay for a split second. That makes me think that he KNEW FOR SURE that he needed to fill that outside gap. Otherwise, I would expect some indecision.
I see that too. He runs to the outside immediately on the first one, the Baker one.
On the 2nd one, he again takes the outside after delay taking on the lead blocker leaving the cutback. In theory, however looks like if Bell would have taken the outside, the DE would have held it to smaller gain.
Impossible for Ezeh to know that at full speed.
I see what you're saying on the second long TD run, but on the first it looked to me Ezeh ran himself out of the play and Mouton was left alone and there was little he could do. What are you seeing that I'm not?
still well deserved, even w/o the big plays. it just seemed that even when he was in position to make a play, he missed the tackle or got driven back several yards. he played soft all game.
Outside foot should be back, front foot should be pointed at near back, shoulders should be square to LOS. Cocked in like they are, a) there's no way they can get to their pass responsibility on time (see 4th play, hitch wide open when Kovacs is to buzz to the flat), and b) they are more easily reach blocked.
5:00--On 4th/3, you don't let the #2 receiver run unimpeded straight up the field, turn around at 6 yards and catch a ball. This is Harry High School shit; we should be jamming all seams in every single coverage, period.
Note: this post may be edited as I get through the footage.
Drove me nuts. Mainly cause i saw that WR was going to be open just by alignment, whether he ran the stop or the out.
5:00-the 4th and 3 play. Mouton should have jumped that route. Once he recognizes pass, he looks up the number 2 receiver but stays in the curl zone. He had help inside, outside, and over the top. Alas, this is the difference between a guy who's played LB his whole career and someone who was moved there out of desparation.
Tough to blame the kid for that. He simply isn't a very good LB on pass coverage.
"see 4th play" Kovacs' stance
Would this be part of an attempt to disguise if Kovacs (I'm not sure what the diff between Spur and Bandit are - weakside / strongside?) would be blitzing or perhaps covering the TE instead of having the flat responsibility?
Sorry if I'm asking a dumb question. I played football a million (ok 20) years ago at a tiny tiny HS. Our offense and defense were uh... not very sophisticated :)
Steve, you don't know whether they're improperly coached, and you don't know whether they're being coached into that stance or if they're freelancing. To say they're "improperly coached" is jumping to conclusions.
It's defensive fundamentals 101. A little research will verify this.
Sharik-Magnus nerd fights!
Ah ha. So you know exactly what Coach Brathwaite and Coach Robinson have been telling those players on the practice field? That's impressive stuff. I had no idea you were such an insider.
I'm sure they were teaching him correctly and allowing him to do it the entire game.
As an old, wise coach once said, "You're either coaching it that way or allowing it to happen." Either way, this is a coaching failure.
1. 61-yard TD -- Well blocked. Cam takes a bad angle.
2. 41-yard TD -- Ezeh runs way outside while the dude cuts up behind him. Mouton got scooped. Patterson got Lewan mini-held.
3. Check out the Ezeh -2 at 8:38. Jumping in place while Martin runs by him.
#3 - yeah Ezeh didn't recognize what was happening right away, then took a bad angle.
Speaking of watching the game again, I did force myself to watch most of the UM offense in the first half again. We left so many points on the board. The INTs, the Roundtree drop, overthrowing Stonum. The first pick DRob made the right choice but threw behind Roundtree.
Does anyone else really not want to watch this?
Lemme start this off by saying I don't know nearly as much as the coaches, don't see these kids play every day like the coaches, and don't know these kids strengths/weaknesses like the coaches do. But going through these plays 2-3 times each, I kept seeing Ezeh stand there, not figure out his gap until late, and get clobbered out of the play by a guard/tackle. In big plays, he wasn't in there, he was downfield tangled up with an OL. I'm not saying Demens should start, that'd be irrational. But like Sam Webb said dozens of times on his show today, if Demens comes in, how much worse can he be? And at least, if he's not playing well, isn't he learning for the future? From what I've heard, the main problem with him is his pass coverage ability, which is why he's seeing time exclusively in goal line situations. However, I just don't understand how bad he can be dropping into coverage to justify keeping him out in favor of Ezeh for the whole game. I watched him in what appeared to be his first action (correct me if I'm wrong) at 9:32, where he starts out the deepest man in the defensive formation, then manages to find his gap and plug it before the RB reaches the lane, and makes a brilliant tackle! I'm not advocating starting him, I just don't understand how GERG can justify playing Ezeh the whole game
Check out the read and scrape that Demens makes at the 9:32 mark on the goal line. That's a good play. I'm sure the coaches will give all the backers a shot this week. We will need Obi and Kenny.
I would like to see Demens get a shot with the first team. I keep hearing about his pass coverage but the last I checked UM was 120/120 in pass defense. Can it get worse?
Long runs are well blocked, but it does seem on the second that Ezeh is sprinting toward the sideline and running out of the hole. Urgent, so maybe his assignment is out there, but not that far out there. I think an experienced safety limits the damage on both (Cam will get there). Trickeration play worked. Long bomb over Cullen was well thrown (and Roh almost got there).
It seemed worse during. Penalties, that damn false start that helped them, the tipped pass. They played well and got the breaks. D kept us in the game well enough. But what the hell do I know?
I keep reading that in the 3-3-5, everybody has a gap. I take this to mean that there are 7 offensive players on the LOS, so the 3-3 part of the 3-3-5 take the 6 gaps in between the 7 offensive players, and the spur and bandit take the outside edge. But Ezeh is sprinting to the sideline, meaning he either read the play wrong, he doesn't trust the edge guys, or he's freelancing, or all of the above. In the first long run, Ezeh runs out of the middle leaving two spartan blockers to take out Mouton. Mouton has no chance in that situation. That, combined with poor angles and average speed in the secondary leads to 2 TDs.
Having said that, we didn't look too bad for the first 18 minutes. Then, Ezeh got hit with the facemask penalty and it all went downhill from there.
On the false start (3 minutes in), the officials should have just picked up the flag and said there was no foul on the play. It doesn't look like anyone on either team heard the whistle.
BTW, why does MSU use a completely different shade of green on its helmets from its uniforms? The green uniform trim is almost olive.
Is 2:45 the hit by Gordon everyone has been referencing? I don't know if I want a speed bump for an alley player, someone needs to teach that kid how to tackle. Granted it's a major step up from getting blown back while attempting to wrap up as he showed early in the season, now they just need to drill him to put it all together. And maybe keep his feet, that might be pretty key.
@BlueGoM...where is this offensive tape? If it's on youtube slap me with negs, but I can't find it. If you just DVRed it...well....nevermind.
@DGDestroys...On the depth chart given out by rivals today it had Moundros OR Ezeh as the starting Mike for next game. Demens was 3rd on the chart. Wish I had a link, but it should be behind a pay-wall.
In the words of some pirate who loves MGoBlog, "The reply butt'n be thurr fer a reason me lad." But that's nothing to complain about. I'm not a premium member at Rivals, so I can't see that, but that doesn't sound too far-fetched. I'm just terrified for the future if the coaches are more willing to form a make-shift tag team of RS Seniors, one who isn't improving and one who switched over to defense in the spring, over the guy who SHOULD be our starting MLB next year. I should say terrified/confused. I really just want to see Demens more.
Let's see if I can pick out anything at all for myself. I didn't think Ezeh looked that bad. It seemed to me he had two maybe three really bad plays. The first was the first touchdown run where he left Mouton alone and helpless, the other two were late read and poor tackle combinations.
I predict the biggest goat will be Cam Gordon. It seemed like he couldn't do anything right. A lot of terrible pursuit angles and tackle attempts.
Or then again I might be totally wrong about everything. We'll see.
I think the most frustrating part of Ezeh's game is knowing that he can do this
While watching him do this
If Ezeh and Cam Gorden are anything, they are consistant.
1st MSU td Baker 61 yd td run Obi (unblocked) runs himself completely out of the play and Cam takes a terrible angle
2nd td Bell 41 yd td run Obi (unblocked) runs himself completely out of the play and Cam takes a terrible angle.In Cams defense on this it was cover 1 and he had 2 wrs split way out on the far side of the play in a formation MSU usually throws out of..he simply is not fast enough to rocover from that..There is no defense for Obi
3rd down and 8 from the 44 Obi has Caper stopped for no gain but Caper runs through his arm tackle and gains 5 ..MSU converts on 4th down..if Ezeh makes the tackle they probably punt
3rd down and 16 to set up the 38 yeard field goal..cam is late reacting to a screen..he is the only unblocked defender and wiffs on Martin who gains 14 and sets up the easy fg
41 yd touchdown pass on Cullen..announcer said single coverage..sadly it was not..it just looked that way because thats how far out of position Cam was..It was a 1 man route and Cam wasn't even close to deep enough.
If that game doesn't prove the whole your only as good as your weakest link saying, nothing will.
I was sitting 10 rows up in the endzone where Cullen was burned. I closely watched the whole play develop after freaking out as they aligned and Cullen was left alone out on the island.
Cam was playing his standard deep safety position and had plenty of depth but was confused and didn't move while spying the backfield rather than moving over to give help over the top.
Major coaching error to allow Cullen to get isolated that quickly...poor recognition by Gordon to not even react until the ball was well on the way. Cullen was just a deer in the headlights.
Actually, this was a very good example of how pitiful our CB depth situation is. Clearly the coaches are only teaching/using Talbott and Avery in the nickel and dime and when Rogers went down they went to Christian who is probably getting more reps on the outside.
Is anyone else concerned about the long term health of Cam Gordon? I love the he brings the wood but he has to use discretion or he may have some cognitive issues later in life.
I'd be more worried about the people receiving the hits
Why? Half the time they don't even go down.
I don't care if he's bringing them down (well I do, it's just not relevant right now), the initial hits he puts on some of those guys would be enough to knock me senseless, even if they don't end up on the turf.
He needs to wrap up defenders, not just go for the big stick every time.
That will solve both the not-going-down problem and the risk to his own health.
was too many guys trying to tackle the ball and strip it instead of tackling the guy first. I am all for trying to create turnovers, but you have to recognize when the opportunity is there and go for it then. OK, if you are lucky, you will strip the ball from a guy, once in a blue moon. But it is not worth the cost of giving up 5 or 6 yards yards on every attempt as you consistantly try to strip the ball away from the defender. More fumbles are caused by putting your helmet on the ball during a violent tackle, then waltzing with a ball carrier down the field as you try and strip it from him.....
WOw...go to the play 1:28. Should have been a interception FOR SURE.
Interception or decapitation. Somehow he managed to do neither.
It could have been both as well. There were 3 players there, cam could have decapitated the receiver and one of the other two could have gotten the interception.
Why couldn't at least one of them happen ....
It definitely should have been broken up. An INT would have been tougher, but doable.
I don't think I'll be watching this one. I used to be a masochist, but I'm trying to quit.
If you watch that video they had Kovacs up at the line of scrimmage most of the time either blitzing in or dropping back? is that a blitz or a designed coverage?
I also thought they were in a 4 man front more than the 3 man front, and 8 man box alot.
so how can we call and complain about it being a 3-3-5?
Having Kovacs up there takes him out of safety , leaving more one on one? and also if they break a big run , which they did at least 4 times hes not there for last man in line.
to me they tried something different and it didnt work...bend dont break doesnt work but they at least dont give up the long runs and throws.