[LOCKED] Way OT: Kaepernick got Nike to remove American flag from shoes because it's racist
I'm more than a little confused. #1 Why is a Betsy Ross flag racist?? #2 Why does Kaepernick have a Nike sponsorship?
MOD EDIT - for posterity, I'll leave the comments because yikes to some of you, but this one is locked. - LSA
lhglrkwg
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:12 PM ^
This might set the record for quickest thread lock
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SoDak Blues
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:13 PM ^
Yup. Not going to end well.
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Sleepy
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:13 PM ^
1) Because he hates the troops.
2) Because he hates the troops.
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Never
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:14 PM ^
And they're off
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BayWolves
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:26 PM ^
Because he's the embodiment of a freaking Snowflake. Cry loudly enough and call everything racist, sexist, misogynist, anti ________ (fill in the blank) and companies will change their policies even as they pertain to the country and the flag. let's face it, we are living in corroded politically correct times such that the sight of a flag or a founding father makes snowflakes melt. Glad I was born in a generation that didn't go into hysterics so easily.
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Mgoscottie
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:29 PM ^
Would you specify your generation so we can all point out how often it goes into hysterics easily
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BayWolves
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:33 PM ^
LOL Gen X baby! We watch and smile at all of this.
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TheCube
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:40 PM ^
Your generation is literally the laziest, spoon fed generation in American history.
No wars, no economic stress, nothing.
And you have the gall to talk down to us?
Who raised said "snowflakes"? You fuckers did. Learn to parent better you lazy bums.
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drewz05
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:51 PM ^
"What generation are you?"
Literally any answer
"Oh they're the worst!"
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tsbilly
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:55 PM ^
Did you forget the economy of the 70s and 80s, the Gulf War, AIDs, etc.
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blue in dc
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:30 PM ^
The irony is strong with this one
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MGoChippewa
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:34 PM ^
*Calls people snowflakes but is so fucking soft that he can't tolerate people that have different beliefs than him*
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clarkiefromcanada
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:44 PM ^
A couple thoughts before the lock shows up.
"we are living in corroded politically correct times" and yet only a generation ago (this one that apparently didn't go into hysterics so easily) it was still acceptable to tell an African American person to sit at the back of the bus. Things were better? Come on.
IIRC this whole flag burning/flag protest thing hit its epoch during the Vietnam era? So much for generations that didn't "go into hysterics so easily". Interesting left side article below on the concept.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/30/blaze-of-glory-the-grand-tradition-of-burning-the-american-flag
I don't lean particularly hard left but your takes here on "snowflakes" are just meme level talking points.
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KBLOW
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:56 PM ^
...says BayWloves hysterically. Lol. So many incels on this board.
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ldevon1
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:13 PM ^
Why are you posting this inflammatory shit. Please delete.
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drjaws
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:15 PM ^
1. it's not.
2. cuz it's edgy on Nike's part?
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Zeke21
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:15 PM ^
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B-Nut-GoBlue
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:17 PM ^
Re: why it could be offensive to be celebrated (i.e. displayed on a shoe), I'm guessing because at the time there were 13 states/colonies, things were...quite different back then. And by different, "not very good" for a large segment of the population*. That is my educated guess on the matter.
Population is an interesting notion here as they were what, considered 3/5ths of a white person?! How did that math work in the annual census?!
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Hold This L
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:20 PM ^
I’m not gonna get into this on this thread, but the Betsy Ross flag isn’t a confederate flag
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TheCube
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:22 PM ^
Who cares. Just rebrand em with the current American flag and problem solved.
Secondly, who the hell are buying these things?
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Hold This L
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:25 PM ^
Exactly. My point was only that first poster seems to associate this flag with racism or slavery when there is literally already a flag for that
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GoBLUE_SemperFi
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:53 PM ^
The "problem" is that people think there is a problem...because Kaepernick said so.
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B-Nut-GoBlue
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:24 PM ^
Again that was my guess. I know it's not a Confederate flag but it does correlate to a...I guess, similar time, for lack of a better phrasing.
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Hold This L
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:26 PM ^
My bad. I got you
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Mgoscottie
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:31 PM ^
I believe that this is less about the time frame and more about the Betsy Ross flag being used by bigoted/racist groups like the KKK
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BlueWolverine02
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:51 PM ^
Is it used by them? Honest question, i dont keep up on the kkk. If so this makes a little more sense.
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We'll be Champions
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:17 PM ^
Boo politics.
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TheCube
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:17 PM ^
1. My ancestors weren’t slaves so I don’t have an opinion on the matter
2. Bc supporting Kaep shows black Americans that Nike cares about their issues especially when majority of Nike’s American sponsored athletes are black.
3. Fuck you OP
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BayWolves
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:30 PM ^
My ancestors were slaves and I'm telling you it's okay for you to have an opinion. Some of us who are Black don't cry about history, we study it objectively and learn from it rather than trying to ban it in a real life version of Fahrenheit 451. Also many of us think Nike is stupid for catering to this PC garbage. America is the greatest country on earth for everyone. Pray tell why do so many people continue to try and move here if it's so bad - and I don't see Kapernick or anyone else trying to leave and go elsewhere.
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Wolverine91
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:38 PM ^
Baywolves, thank you and well said.
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bluinohio
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:41 PM ^
Agree. So much bitching about being here. There are literally millions who would trade places. Reminds me of celebrities who makes millions then bitch because they don’t want their picture taken or to be bothered.
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TheCube
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:42 PM ^
Ah yes the "go somewhere else if you don't like it mantra"
Something tells me you're a fraud especially judging by the bullshit comment you made above regarding snowflakes.
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WindyCityBlue
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:39 PM ^
I also asked my wife, who is a POC, whose ancestors (and more recent relatives) were slaves, and she said TheCube is allowed to have opinion.
Also, my ancestors were slaves too. Check out the root meaning of the word "slave" - it comes from the word "slavs", who inhabited a large part of Eastern Europe, were taken as slaves by the Muslims of Spain during the ninth century AD.
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TheCube
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:54 PM ^
I have an opinion but it's not my place to tell a black American how they should feel about something. That is his or her decision.
And quite frankly, I am just fine with that. I don't get why white people get so offended by that concept.
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UMAmaizinBlue
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:17 PM ^
It's been a while since I dusted this one off. I guess now is as good a time as any to deploy the old...
IBD!
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WestSider
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:22 PM ^
Companies who market to youth are especially alert and sensitive to their consumers. When the President is overtly stoking racism and xenophobia, and harkening back to old times when America "was great," it suggests that it was great for everyone in this country. It wasn't great for women, people of color, individuals who weren't identified as heterosexual and Christian, nor for immigrants that had not established a foothold in America. Of course there are some companies don't give a shit.
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UMichWolverines
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:28 PM ^
Interesting response to in before deleted
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PaulWall
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:30 PM ^
No he's not. Stop listening to mainstream media
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theytookourjobs
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:18 PM ^
Other great topics for threads in no particular order;
1. Your personal thoughts on Donald Trump
2. Your personal thoughts on Jesus
3. Your personal thoughts on immigration
4. Your personal thoughts on foreign policy
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ldevon1
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:21 PM ^
I don't think foreign policy qualifies.
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Hold This L
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:24 PM ^
Speaking of, have you heard about our lord and savior Erik bakich?
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East Quad
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:18 PM ^
The original 13 colonies were partly in support of slavery (the Southern ones). The flag shown is the original flag. The extreme leap forward logic is that the flag is racist. I think it is an awful stretch.
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Never
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:22 PM ^
The stretch looks to be the OP's. "Racist" will garner more views/replies than "offensive."
C.K. apparently said he considered the flag to be "offensive" for the reasons you listed.
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VicTorious1
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:24 PM ^
Partly? There was slavery in the colonial US. Full stop. It was prevalent in New York, Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey and to a lesser extent other northern colonial areas (e.g., Pennsylvania). There were definitely more slaves in Virginia, the Carolinas and Georgia than in other colonies, but to say slavery was only in the South shows your lack of being informed on the matter.
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The Man Down T…
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:33 PM ^
I really wish that people understood this. So many think "south bad, north good" but no. Slaves were processed for transport in New York and they were not in favor of losing that money. It's not as cut and dry as the books make it out today. And, since this thread will get deleted, I'd just like to say, I wish people would focus on actual slavery that is still going on today.. The U.S. fought a huge war to settle that it was evil and should stop. There are still many countries that enslave people today and they get nary a remark...
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Blue Ninja
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:26 PM ^
I don't see his logic on this being that it represented oppression. Perhaps one could make the case if it were a flag from the Constitutional Convention when the issue of slavery was on the table but the fact is the Betsy Ross flag was created in 1776 when our country was barely even begun by a group of people who were fighting against oppression. One would think based on its history that he would embrace the flag but the irony is that instead its the flag itself that he has issues with. Its sad that our flag has become such a divisive issue when it was made to be a unifying symbol.
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ldevon1
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:18 PM ^
My last comment. If Nike wasn't trying to get a ton of free promotion, they could have just kept this shit to themselves. I really hate that notion that say whatever you want about me, as long as you spell my name right. They will get so much free advertising from this.
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Boom Goes the …
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:20 PM ^
Kap is trash and apparently so is Nike
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bronxblue
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:36 PM ^
Ah yes, because all of those boycotts in the past totally put Starbucks, Delta, Keurig, and various other companies out of business. I guess you can just keep pulling yourselves up by your bootstraps, as long as they don't have a swoosh on them.
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evenyoubrutus
July 2nd, 2019 at 12:57 PM ^
I always find the boycotts to be pretty funny considering they always seem to provide free advertising and end up boosting sales for the company in question.
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