John Beilein's most important recruit at M?

Submitted by Blue boy johnson on

For me this is a tough question. I want to say Trey Burke and this is the way I am leaning, because without Trey they don't win a share of the BIG Title last season. Ok I will go with Burke.

Other top candidates IMO:

Manny Harris - Manny was in Beilein's first class and it was important to get Manny to remain committed to M

Zack Novak - I could easily choose Novak over Burke. Zack personified the program in his 4 fantastic years with the program. Novak was a major part of laying the groundwork of what is now one of the best basketball programs in the country.

Darius Morris - Beilein's first **** recruit, a kid from the west coast who helped M sweep MSU in his last season with the Wolverines

Mitch McGary - Beilein's first recruit to opt for the Wolverines over the top national programs like Duke, Carolina and Kentucky.

EDIT: overlooked Coltan Christian and added to 2010. I used RIvals list and he's not on it, but is on the Scout list.

The Candidates:

2007  
Name Pos
Kelvin Grady PG
Corperryale Harris SG
Martell Webb SF
   
2008  
Name Pos
Robin Benzing PF
Ben Cronin C
Stuart Douglass SG
Zack Novak SF
   
2009  
Name Pos
Blake McLimans PF
Jordan Morgan PF
Darius Morris PG
Matt Vogrich SG
   
2010  
Name Pos
Tim Hardaway SG
Jon Horford PF
Evan Smotrycz SF
Coltan Christian PF
2011  
Name Pos
Max Bielfeldt PF
Carlton Brundidge SG
Trey Burke PG
   
2012  
Name Pos
Spike Albrecht PG
Mitch McGary C
Glenn Robinson III SF
Nick Stauskas SG
Caris Levert SG
   
2013  
Name Pos
Mark Donnal PF
Zakarie Irvin SG
Derrick Walton  PG

 

Aequitas

December 4th, 2012 at 3:21 PM ^

Beilein's staff is collectively and individually awesome and a huge factor in how this team plays.

A lot of great kids have been brought in and, IMHO, Coach B's biggest recruit won't be known until their careers are over at Michigan and in full swing at the next level.  I can see GR III blowing up in the NBA and impacting future UM recruits.

Dennis Talbott…

December 4th, 2012 at 12:26 PM ^

Novak--He really did a lot for this program and got us through some rough years. I don't know if the team would be in the same place today without him. He spent four years in the Beilein system and helped change the culture of the program.

Dennis Talbott…

December 4th, 2012 at 1:42 PM ^

That's a good point. I guess it just seemed rough because it felt like we had no star players. Harris was perpetually underperforming, Morris was good but we didn't really have any other weapons. Novak and Douglass just always seemed like the glue that held those teams together and made the Tourny runs possible.

I think Novak also catalyzed the culture shift to high energy/team basketball that has been fundamental for the team's success, with his leadership aneurysms and whatnot. This is obviously all just subjective though.

A Dude

December 4th, 2012 at 12:25 PM ^

always like Darius.  For the reason he seemed to start the upward trend of higher rated recruits.  He was a great leader and really helped lead this team to being a tournament team and helped bring the excitement around Michigan Basketball again.

aiglick

December 4th, 2012 at 12:25 PM ^

Zach Novak He was pivotal to laying the foundation like you said. He was also monumental in that game at East Lansing which helped to turn our season around two years ago. Don't make the Tournament that year it's possible recruits eye us as a team that will occasionally make the Tournament as opposed to a Tournament regular. Everybody has contributed though.

AC1997

December 4th, 2012 at 12:27 PM ^

If you look at 2008-2010 the only recruit with any sort of profile was Morris. If he was a bust imagine what would have happened going forward....

Zok

December 4th, 2012 at 4:11 PM ^

With the way Manny went out it was really Morris and to a lesser extent Novak and Douglass that kept the team moving in a positive trajectory. I say lesser b/c Novak and Stu neeeded Morris more than vica-versa.

Morris was the guy who carried the team and made them relevant to future recruits (THjr, Burke..etc...etc). Then its snowballed. More importantly, Morris was NOT a typical Beilein player and shown Beilein's willingness to adapt his style (pick n roll O). This further attracted more high recruit type playerrs since it is a stable in the Pros.

 

Novak and Douglass were key ROLE players but not key RECRUITS. If Morris wasn't on those teams nobody would have ever heard of Novak and Douglass. UM wouldn't be ranked right now either.

turd ferguson

December 4th, 2012 at 12:27 PM ^

Nathan Brink and it's not close.

No, I'll go with Darius Morris.  For some reason, that felt like the signal to other recruits that it's okay for elite prospects to come here, and without Morris we don't have a 2010-11 season that suggests promise going forward.

club2230

December 4th, 2012 at 12:28 PM ^

One of those two has to be the most important recruit.

Without an adequate foundation, a building can collapse.  If you are not planning on building a foundation for a building then you have to have a lot of money in for perpetual repair work.  

I'm assuming that the vast majority of fans want a program that allows for teams rather than sporadically successful teams.  To build that program you have to start with a foundation.  I don't think that there is any question that Zach and Stu are the most important recruits because they represent the foundation.

Butterfield

December 4th, 2012 at 12:29 PM ^

Man, it's remarkable that Coach B has had such great consistency. Each class has had at least one guy who has been a program changer, many of them under the radar. My pick for most important is Novak. His grit and determination to bring the program forward made it possible to get some of the bigger prospects Coach is now regularly getting.

DH16

December 4th, 2012 at 12:35 PM ^

I think Novak is definitely up there. He's the personification of Coach B's system. The only way I can describe him is as an overachiever. He wasn't the most athletic guy or most talented out there, but he was the toughest and did all of the little things, I almost liked watching Novak take a charge more than draining threes. He's the epitome of how far this program has come.

Novak may be the most important player, but as far as recruiting, I'd have to go with Darius Morris or Tre Burke. Those guys weren't typical Beilein recruits, being so elite, but they were the signal that not only does Michigan have guys like Novak and Douglass, your sharpshooting and hard working guards, but Michigan can attracte elite talent to.

BursleysFinest

December 4th, 2012 at 12:36 PM ^

I would say Darius Morris, an NBA talent choosing M combined with the team/Tournament success he led, gave us some needed legitimacy in the eyes of the recruits we're getting now.  

I wouldn't be mad at Novak though (leadership, gave us a leg up in the Mitch/Spike, GR3 relationships)

club2230

December 4th, 2012 at 12:43 PM ^

Stu going for 20 against UCLA for our first big win was pretty huge.  Couple that with him being our best perimeter defender, I'd say he has to be in the discussion as well.

Mr. Rager

December 4th, 2012 at 12:47 PM ^

This one is easy:  Trey Burke.  Kid is dynamite and was an overall 3-star.  He goes to Ohio if the white kid isn't there.  Played an instrumental role as THE GUY in getting us our first B1G regular season champ since I can remember.

If you are going by classes, however, this year's freshmen class wins hands down.  I can't find the "miss" in this class.

michfan4borw

December 4th, 2012 at 12:48 PM ^

Morgan, Novak would have been playing the center position instead of power forward.  Without him, Michigan probably doesn't win the B1G or make the tournament. I think there's a good argument for Jordan Morgan

Marley Nowell

December 4th, 2012 at 12:49 PM ^

Keeping him committed was huge because it allowed for our first NCAA Tourney appearance in forever, and showed guys like Darius Morris and our latest recruiting class that the program was on a upswing.

UMaD

December 4th, 2012 at 12:51 PM ^

It's not, but that seems to be the way this thread is going.

To me, it's Morris or Harris.  They really carried a team with marginal talent to overacheive and pushed the program in a positive direction.  I'd give the edge to Harris because he was there longer than Morris and at a more pivital time.

Erik_in_Dayton

December 4th, 2012 at 12:54 PM ^

Sam Webb, though, has said that Morris's success at Michigan showed other PGs that they could thrive with Coach Beilein, and Michigan wouldn't have made the tournament in 2010 w/out him...Novak and Douglass did set the foundation, though, so I don't know.  This is like asking me which of my (fictional) children is my favorite!