September 29th, 2014 at 6:38 PM ^
Its good for forced change.
September 29th, 2014 at 6:40 PM ^
Brad Bates (1980 team photo)
Warde Manuel (1989 team photo)
Warde Manuel was a freshman when Jim Harbaugh was a 5th year senior.
September 29th, 2014 at 6:43 PM ^
Very obvious contrast between the versions of maize in both those unis
September 29th, 2014 at 6:50 PM ^
This comment is in jest, right? Sorry I can't keep up with all the flying emotions around M right now.
If not - different camera (physical processing in this case), different lighting, can't compare, etc.
September 29th, 2014 at 7:33 PM ^
Oh those are different (species of maize)!
I'm sure it was in jest, and it was well timed. We need some good, dry humor these days.
September 29th, 2014 at 6:41 PM ^
Joke needs to be fired now! Good Morning America, world news. Just to show we won't allow this to continue. Potential recruits parents are watching
September 29th, 2014 at 6:46 PM ^
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that this was a typo, but calling him "Joke" isn't going to win you any friends here..just a word to the wise.
September 29th, 2014 at 6:52 PM ^
"... but calling him 'Joke' isn't going to win you any friends here.."
People need to get off that sensitive shit around here, it's pretty much been proven that it's a fact at this point... Our head coach is a joke.
September 29th, 2014 at 7:09 PM ^
Sensitive or not, name calling is for children.
September 29th, 2014 at 7:14 PM ^
Poophead.
September 29th, 2014 at 6:59 PM ^
No need to kick a man when he is down.
September 29th, 2014 at 6:42 PM ^
anybody got a link to the story?
September 29th, 2014 at 6:46 PM ^
This is absurd. I cannot ever remember a story being as overblown as this one.
September 29th, 2014 at 6:53 PM ^
StretchGate. Didn't make as big of a headline but it sure as hell was way overblown.
I'm not sure that you could quite classify this as something that could be too overblown given the nature of what happened.
But that's just like, my opinion, man
September 29th, 2014 at 6:56 PM ^
The nature of what happened is that Hoke and his staff made a stupid mistake by failing to realize that Morris had been hit in the head and needed to come out of the game. The result of this mistake was that Morris played one more play than he should have. That is not national news.
September 29th, 2014 at 7:12 PM ^
One play where he handed the ball off. I'm with you. There are a lot of different possible narratives for this story and the only reason this one has taken hold is because we are losing a lot of games. The only reason it is a national story is that people are pissed enough about us losing games that it will sell nationally.
Morris should have come out of the game earlier, obviously. Coaches made a mistake, obviously. It's probably worth a couple of mgoblog threads and hand wringing. Nothing more. I mean, I remember when ND played Clausen (I think) after he had a cuncussion and could only see out of one eye at halftime - that didn't even make it this big, and that was worse on pretty much every level.
September 29th, 2014 at 7:29 PM ^
the play where he handed off was after he was put back into the game.
September 29th, 2014 at 7:22 PM ^
The coverage of this story is appropriate...
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If Shane Morris was knocked unconscious for dozens of seconds out on the field before getting back to his feet, at which point Hoke refused to allow the medical staff to see Morris and told Morris to "rub some dirt on it and finish the rest of the game if you know what's good for you".
Instead, Morris took a hard hit that Hoke and Nuss didn't see. People assume that caused a concussion but don't have much proof besides "looks" from a far away vantage point without medical evidence, Morris played one more play before being pulled from the game and checked out by the medical staff.
To me, that should equate to some questions for the staff, maybe a some mild amounts of being upset because Morris was allowed back in the game, and then we can go on continuing our doom and gloom because the football team doesn't appear good.
September 29th, 2014 at 7:26 PM ^
very serious issue for kids in youth sports everywhere. I'm sure you know that.
1. They make it clear in virtually every training I've seen that once the brain is concussed a second blow, even if less violent in nature or different, could be fatal.
I don't know how that can be overblown.
2. The other part of this is the unbelievable story that Hoke is telling. There is no way he could have missed the violent hit - either live or on the big screen. It's simply not believable.
3. And it's a media ready story. The video is as clean as the Clowney hit on Vincent Smith. We're going to see the video over and over and over again.
4. And for this to happen at a University with such high standards and a prestigious medical school it's downright disgusting and sadly news worthy.
5. And the coach is under fire.
6. And the AD is under fire.
7. I'm sure I've forgotten a few others.....
September 29th, 2014 at 8:22 PM ^
Once the brain is concussed a second blow, even if less violent in nature or different, could be fatal.
There are, what, 20 recorded cases of Second Impact Syndrome in history? It's very, very rare. But yes, concussions are dangerous. That's why Michigan should have had somebody alerting Hoke to the fact that Morris just got nailed in the head, and that's why I called it a stupid mistake.
But you have to account for the unusual (and unfortunate) situation here. It's not often that a player suffers an injury on one play, and then immediately suffers a different injury that presents identical symptoms. When Shane was hobbling, there was simply no way to discern whether it was caused by something other than his leg, and unless Hoke saw the play, it's not unreasonable to assume it was an aggravation of the leg injury.
There is no way he could have missed the violent hit - either live or on the big screen. It's simply not believable.
Why not? The big screen didn't replay the hit, and isn't it possible that of the 22 players on the field, Hoke was looking at one not named Shane Morris?
And it's a media ready story.
That's a Bingo #1!
And for this to happen at a University with such high standards and a prestigious medical school it's downright disgusting.
I don't know what our prestigious medical school or academic standards have to do with this.
And the coach is under fire.
That's a Bingo #2!
And the AD is under fire.
That's a Bingo #3!
Sorry about all the blockquoting. I just learned how to do it and I'm EXCITED.
September 29th, 2014 at 8:21 PM ^
If he falls down dead or goes blind tomorrow, it is. This was more than a "stupid mistiake." It was a bad decision that could have severe consequences for Morris. And Hoke's "I didn't know" defense is unacceptable. "Then put on the goddamed headsets so you're more aware of what's going on!" Good communication is fundamental to running ANY organization, but I guess Hoke knows better. If he refuses to stay connected with the other coaches via headset, than he only has himself to blame. Meanwhile, who knows what sort of damage Morris might have suffered.
If you believe Michigan is special and the "leaders and best," then you have to be able to face up to the added scrutiny that comes with that label. Can't have it both ways.
September 29th, 2014 at 7:02 PM ^
If you are having trouble thinking of overblown stories, there is a photo of Derek Jeter a few posts down. That might jog your memory.
September 29th, 2014 at 7:03 PM ^
I actually agree with you to a point - this is and should be big news for Michigan football fans. But national news 2 nights in a row? Insane.
September 29th, 2014 at 10:26 PM ^
Yeah I mean I was upset about the situation, but seriously ABC News there's much more important stuff going on in the country and in the world.
September 29th, 2014 at 6:52 PM ^
Please.
September 29th, 2014 at 6:55 PM ^
Bomani and Dan Lebatard were spot on re: this incident.
September 29th, 2014 at 7:28 PM ^
why will would you watch this?
September 29th, 2014 at 7:32 PM ^
he's hilarious. Kidding. My 13 year old watches it. But they really hit the nail on the head with this incident, I believe.
September 29th, 2014 at 6:55 PM ^
I cringed.
September 29th, 2014 at 6:57 PM ^
Jeter
September 29th, 2014 at 7:01 PM ^
So Jeter is gonna be the next coach or AD?? Coincidence he retired? Hmmm.
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September 29th, 2014 at 7:02 PM ^
#Jeter4AD #Upton4MarketingDirector
September 29th, 2014 at 7:18 PM ^
would be a real shame to see them waste time on that little war over in Syria.
September 29th, 2014 at 8:51 PM ^
It's their guy doing it this time. They will use anything they can to divert attention from that. Hey look, Kim and Kayne. Works every time.
September 29th, 2014 at 10:10 PM ^
Is in the no es bueno zone, hombre.
No politics here, that is why you have Fox, Drudge, Rush, etc for your theories.
September 29th, 2014 at 7:17 PM ^
The media is very good at backing people into a wall. Although I don't think this qualifies as evening news, it's hard to imagine a positive outcome for Hoke at this point even if the team wins out the remainder of the season.
September 29th, 2014 at 7:19 PM ^
The report said they talked to Shane's parents and they said Shane is fine. That's it?
I'd like to know what other questions they asked and how they were answered. I suspect Shane's parents were asked about Hoke and vouched for him, but that was left out because it didn't fit their story.
September 29th, 2014 at 7:24 PM ^
This is yet another example of how agenda driven the media is. They have run one story after the other regarding how evil football and those associated with it are (i.e., Rice, Peterson, the Redskins, etc.) Now, they are on to this story and -- unlike the others -- the University is the most likely to bend to this pressure. The media will likely get their pound of flesh and will not let up until they do. This is a political issue for them. In other words, this will do Hoke in. As unfairly as it is, this will be the straw . . . . .
September 29th, 2014 at 7:30 PM ^
I know, and it truly sucks. I honestly feel bad for Hoke going down like this, he genuinely cares about these kids so much. Sure, he may deserve to be fired for his coaching record, but for this? Probably the last reason you would ever expect Hoke to get heat for.
September 29th, 2014 at 7:25 PM ^
I wonder how big this story would be if Michigan was 5-0 right now.
Seriously, though ....Let's get real - People are mad about Hoke's coaching record, not this. I know, it still wasn't a good coaching move, but seriously it was a minor mistake. Not like he made him finish the game. He put him out there for 1 handoff play and took him back out.
I GET IT - He's made too many mistakes as a head coach - but national news on this AGAIN is so overblown.
September 29th, 2014 at 7:28 PM ^
On NBC Nightly News as well, fwiw
September 29th, 2014 at 7:34 PM ^
This is absurd. The list of things NBC refuses to cover in order to protect the current administration is a long one yet they have time to cover this. Buckle up . . . Hoke is now the poster child for all that is wrong with football. Plus, he is inacapble of defending himself, so the media will not stop until he is gone.
September 29th, 2014 at 10:30 PM ^
Yes, the Hoke fiasco is in the news because it's a plot by the media to cover up for Obama.
For fuck's sake, this is the 2nd dumb politics comment in this thread. The mods need to at least dock these guys' points if not ban them.
September 29th, 2014 at 7:29 PM ^
Was on the local news here in Eastern Iowa. Neat stuff.
September 29th, 2014 at 7:36 PM ^
This seems like a story that should be on Detroit local news, not the national news. It's a big deal in AA, but nationally? I mean I understand concussions are a big deal right now, but it isn't like Morris ended up in the hospital. THEN I could see it being a big national story.
And I actually think Hoke should probably be fired for his incompetence, with this being the last straw. But national news 2 nights in a row? C'mon.
September 29th, 2014 at 7:37 PM ^
Even the stock market channels picked this story up today...we look pathetic...time for change.
September 29th, 2014 at 10:31 PM ^
I live in Korea and the replays of the hit are on TV everywhere here. I heard PSY is doing a charity concert soon to raise money for concussion research.
September 30th, 2014 at 12:22 AM ^
Save Ferris!
September 29th, 2014 at 7:42 PM ^
I guess this might play out as follows: (1) the media will continue to focus on this for the next week or until they find another story about the evils of football to feast upon; (2) Brandon will appoint a special committee to investigate the handling of Morris with a report due out at the end of the year or so; (3) Brandon will recommend firing Hoke for his role in the mistakes that were made regarding player saftey; and (4) the media is so stupid they applaud Brandon for taking a tough stand against head injuries. Brandon keeps his job, gets his new coach and Hoke is exiled to whatever MAC school will have him. Not fair for Hoke to go over this. Sorry, its just not. He should go, just not because of this.
September 29th, 2014 at 7:42 PM ^
I guess this might play out as follows: (1) the media will continue to focus on this for the next week or until they find another story about the evils of football to feast upon; (2) Brandon will appoint a special committee to investigate the handling of Morris with a report due out at the end of the year or so; (3) Brandon will recommend firing Hoke for his role in the mistakes that were made regarding player saftey; and (4) the media is so stupid they applaud Brandon for taking a tough stand against head injuries. Brandon keeps his job, gets his new coach and Hoke is exiled to whatever MAC school will have him. Not fair for Hoke to go over this. Sorry, its just not. He should go, just not because of this.