Interesting information on Miami coaching search (Harbaugh and others)

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hey i'm not sure if this was posted or talked about but i found it interesting and wanted to see what you guys thought. If it was already posted i apologize and please delete. The article talks about alot of coaches that Miami was interested in. I find the comment about Dan Mullen surprising. http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/12/15/1973744/jj-jankovich-say-golden-a…

NateVolk

December 16th, 2010 at 10:18 AM ^

That is a great job to have. If this guy can get the recruits in the "State of Miami" like the old days with Schnellenberger and later Jimmie Johnson, he'll win at a high level.  He is known to be a good football coach and he's proven it.

gobluesasquatch

December 16th, 2010 at 11:23 AM ^

When Schnellenberger took over, Florida State was also just getting started under Bowden, which meant that Florida was the only real football school in the state, and even then, they weren't a major player in the SEC. In the late 70s, there was football talent in Florida, but it wasn't the focus on recruiting like it is today.

Schnellenberger could schedule exactly like he wanted to, could operate without little in state pressure, and probably found it easier to overcome antiquated facilities (though they weren't that far behind the standard back in the late 70s and early 80s) because the facilities arms races of the past ten years hadn't begun yet. 

Today, everyone in the nation is recruiting Florida, or at least trying to. Florida has won two national titles it the past five years and is perhaps the premeire program in the nation. While Florida State has slipped, Jimbo had a pretty successful first year, and you'd think they'd continue to trend up. Plus, the state has now four more FBS schools that are in the state, with one playing in a BCS conference. UCF has an on campus stadium. Plus, Miami is a small, private college that does have decent academic standards, when they decide to enforce them for athletics (which they seem to pendulum swing on whether they will or won't).

In the end, Stanford (small, private college in fertile recruiting state with marginal fan interest with new stadium and great facilities) to Miami (small, private college in a fertile recruiting state with marginal fan base, an off-campus pro stadium and otherwise mediocre facilities) would be a lateral move. 

jmblue

December 16th, 2010 at 1:12 PM ^

If his goal is to coach Stanford next season, he's going about it strangely, doing next to nothing to dispel the rumors.  This is a pretty fiery guy we're talking about.  If his intentions were truly to stay at Stanford long-term, don't you think he'd be a little ticked off about all the reports?

sULLY

December 16th, 2010 at 10:20 AM ^

Interesting to hear about Dan Mullen's ego.  You would think that someone who hasn't had a head coaching gig anywhere better than Mississippi State would be a liitle more humble.

burtcomma

December 16th, 2010 at 11:32 AM ^

People who are successful divsion 1 BCS football coaches have to pretty hard driven type A people likely to fit what would be called a CEO personality in a Briggs-Meyers testing situation.   Not surprisingly, they are likely to have big egos as a rule. 

Blue_n_Aww

December 16th, 2010 at 10:24 AM ^

One trustee said Connecticut's Randy Edsall was impressive but ``we were more comfortable with Al. And he beat Connecticut.''

 

LOL at this as a criteria given the circumstances.

BRCE

December 16th, 2010 at 10:24 AM ^

If I was hiring a football coach, a big ego would not be a disqualifier.

No surprise really about Harbaugh. He knows he will likely have have enough options that he can pick and choose a good fit.

Clarence Beeks

December 16th, 2010 at 10:33 AM ^

A high-level trustee fully aware of how the search was done said, ``We were not going to get a star, and it wasn't a money thing. Why would [marquee coaches] leave any of their great programs'' to take another college job? ``Florida didn't get one either. We hired the best person that wasn't in the top 20.''

Interesting dig at Florida.  I think a lot of people would consider Muschamp to be a "star", but apparently those at Miami feel differently.

One trustee said Connecticut's Randy Edsall was impressive but ``we were more comfortable with Al. And he beat Connecticut.'' Another trustee said it helped that Golden, 41, is 11 years younger than Edsall.

I think Miami may end up regretting the comment about Edsall at the end.  I can't believe that they publicly admitted that age was a factor in considering Edsall.

Clarence Beeks

December 16th, 2010 at 11:21 AM ^

I'm not "incorrect", but rather my thought definitely wasn't complete.  I was actually commenting on the fact that it's borderline unbelievable that they would actually admit that age was a factor, even in the presence of other non-age related factors, because of the apperance of an aged-based preference, which would be enough to give them headaches (and cost them a good bit of money) in defending up to SJ, at the very least, with the right plaintiff (i.e. who would be interesting in pursuing such a claim).  Basically, all I am saying, is only bad things can come from publicly admitting that.

jg2112

December 16th, 2010 at 11:48 AM ^

JBlaze -

In the olden days (and by olden days, sometimes this still happens), people were overtly NOT hired because of their race, their sex, their age. That is why Title VII, Title IX, Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act, and Section 1983 exist and are needed.

Don't hate lawyers, hate the people who have required lawyers to take such a central role in enforcing justified federal laws.

Example: there was enough smoke around Charlie Strong's non-hire at Auburn to know that his race, and the race of his wife, were at least contributing factors in his non-hire. Now, would you prefer that the AD make these reasons explicit? And if he did, don't you feel a lawsuit would be appropriate for such a backroads reason to not hire a qualified candidate?

In those situations, it's better we get boilerplate, because it frightens me that people in power still hold such disgusting opinions.

Clarence Beeks

December 16th, 2010 at 11:54 AM ^

Yeah, no kidding.  The situation typically plays out that people "hate lawyers" for things like this.  Until they find themselves in a situation where they need the protection of the law that they are complaining about or they find that there is something in the law that they find out actually benefits them.  Much of the ADA is a prime example of this.

mark5750

December 16th, 2010 at 8:57 PM ^

I am surprised that the snub of Turner Gill wasn't mentioned along with the Charlie Strong example.  That being said it probably goes a lot deeper than what an AD feels or even a board of Regents or Trustees.  Without knowing any kind of specifics about what goes on at Auburn I would be willing to bet that it is more about booster donations and support than it is the feelings of actual employees of the university.

Don

December 16th, 2010 at 12:07 PM ^

Edsall's age is anything remotely actionable, even if Edsall were inclined to pursue a legal remedy. If Miami had hired some obviously unqualified 28-yr old punk, an age discrimination claim would have a bit more beef behind it. But like I said, I'm not a lawyer.