Good. Harbaugh connections aside, Crean had to go.
Pretty classy message, I think.
is there a classy way to fire people?
EDSBS should name some kind of award after Tom, in recognition of him cycling through 26 recruiting classes worth of players in just under 10 seasons. Similar to the Fulmer Cup or the Scott Tenorman Award, but for being a douchebag.
Jeff Meyers fault?
Man, he really got creaned!
cheer for Michigan.
Hello Archie Miller or Steve Alford?
Alford isn't leaving LA. Archie... I can see.
Whoever out of Dayton, Xavier or Butler goes furthest in the tournament wins the job.
...is Chris Collins.
hopefully he stays
with his kid graduating he might consider a move. It is not like Alford is loved at UCLA. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he moved, including the likelihood that IU would outpay UCLA by a lot. Billy Donovan is the first choice but Alford may be number 2. Either way Alford is in for a big raise
Steve Alford will be the next Indiana coach.
This feels like Archie Miller. If Miller doesn't take the job, he is either staying at Dayton for life or waiting for the Ohio State job to open.
How will Pete Penisface Finebaum spin this to be Harbaughs fault?
It won't be long now until I forget that his actual name is Paul.
Whose name is Paul??
I am the Walrus Goo goo g'joob Goo goo g'joob
Yeah, just like I have to remind myself that mork's real name is mike. Thankfully the media does a good job keeping me straight with that one.
Good now harbaugh can root for the good guys.
hope indiana doesn't hit a home run on the hire seems like we've done well recruiting there, would hate to lose ground
Even though Michigan had a lot of Indiana guys they rarely beat IU for them with the exception of McGary I can't think of one that had an IU offer.
Edit: I'm wrong Zak Irvin
GR3 probably would have gotten an Indiana offer had GR3 not committed so early
Maybe we worry if they hire a better talent evaluator. Izzo probably has more to lose, looks like he might pick up 2 Indiana five stars that barely gave Michigan a look.
dammit I enjoyed him sucking at IU. would have enjoyed another few years of that
Where do I have to watch him coach now? I'm going to miss seeing his stupid antics all the time.
....and his nicely tailored suit pants.
Pete's opening tease on today's show: "CREAN OUT AT EYE-YOUUUU. I'll ASK: DID HIS ASSOCIATION WITH MICHIGAN FIREBRAND JIM HARBAUGH HURT?"
"Did marrying Jim Harbaugh's sister ruin Tom Crean?! What does Nick Saban's brother in law have to say and is Arkansas primed for a title run?!?!"
So I guess now we really know who ruined their program
I think that question got answered once and for all today. He got fired.
Zeke Thomas in their back pocket
I am going to miss the Tom Crean gifs; However I am glad Wagner took him out on the sidelines this year as a parting gift from the UM basketball team.
Suits are not conducive to comfort, especially as related to tucked in shirts. I adjust like this several times a day at work, and I'm not pacing the sidelines of a basketball court. I don't have that problem with my custom made shirts though. Maybe Tom should consider ordering some.
My sympathies to Tom Crean. Still an incompetent ass, though.
Tell me all about your leather-bound books...
Forget that. I want to hear about his convertible.
a better tailor. It's all about the tailoring.
Are your shirts custom made to include a giant neck hole the size of two basketballs, allowing you to fit your giant head through them?
So now we hate people with gigantic heads? Maybe I will take my punkin and my shame and go home.
I think I saw you on TV.
Custom (made-to-measure) suits arent that expensive if you know where to look. Id go as far as to say that if you are someone who wears a suit everyday, it doesnt make sense not to invest in a few.
Men's Wearhouse or Jos A. Banks 3 for one deals are sweet.
Get one really nice suit for $500 and bang! You just got 3 tailored suits for $167.
How do adults not know this or already have fitting suits?
There's his problem. Who even wears pleats anymore?
Say farewell to the Crean Machine....
I wonder where he will end up at next?
YOU RUINED YOUR PROGRAM
He ruined their program.
Am glad.... that crap he pulled on Meyer, was, the worst... and not only grossly inappropriate, but childish, unsportsmanike, etc. Major tort, and now he got what he deserved.
Be let out of their LOI for baseketball? Indiana signee Clifton Moore would be perfect for our offense as a stretch power-forward. Similar to UM's current recruit Eli Brooks, he's from PA and can shoot it lights out. Also, Michigan was recruiting another one of their signees - Justin Smith but never offered. We have a spot open in our recruiting class and we're not getting Bamba.
In honor of Tom, one of my favorite threads of all time was the Crean gif thread.
And my favorite gif
Thank you. Funny how accurate this one turned out to be.
Last season, B1G coach of the year, this year.......a zillow subscriber
Indiana was also B1G champions.
Smart move for IU, bad for the rest of the B1G.
Crean had a hard ceiling there, their 12-13 team was dripping with NBA talent and got bounced by the same Cuse team we beat in the Final 4.
That's still a very appealing job for many sitting P5 coaches.
It'll be interesting to see who they hire. They don't necessarily have to dip into the mid-majors to find a coach (although there are some attractive candidates there). They can probably pull from most of D1 schools.
Is it really though? Super high expectations. Tough league. Pitino and Calipari geographically close as well.
The right coach can succeed anywhere, but finding the right coach is difficult.
The coach will have almost unlimited resources at his disposal.
It makes a lot of sense if you think of Crean as Brady Hoke, and Kelvin Sampson as Rich Rod. Harbaugh still came even though there were super high expectations and Meyer and Danthony close by. It's a phenomenal job.
But who is Indiana basketball's Jim Harbaugh?
Jim Harbaugh wouldn't be at Michigan if it weren't for his lifelong love of Michigan. I mean if Harbaugh had gone to Stanford for college we might not even like him... To think that someone of Harbaugh's caliber would leave the NFL for Michigan without the deep personal and emotion connection that he has here is naive IMO.
The obvious answer is Brad Stevens, but I don't see any way they land him.
But they should land a good coach. Alford is a possibility (mistake in my opinion). There's Archie Miller. Greg Marshall. Chris Mack. They are a bit unlucky in that there isn't a Pitino on the market this year to fall into their lap, but they'll get someone good. The dream scenario would be Billy Donovan realizing that the job he signed up for at OKC isn't one he's going to enjoy anytime in the near future and taking a return to the college ranks.
would be #1 on their wishlist but I don't see him leaving Boston especially when they'll be in the playoff and the future is shaping up well for them with a bunch of assets at their disposal.
I believe Steve Alford is more appropriate. He played at IU, has proven success, and has a unique personality only his fan base will love.
but isn't Alford that guy? Local legend, deep local roots, success out west.
It is. Indiana is a good basketball producing state, and there's national pull because it's Indiana. Yes, the Big Ten is a competitive league, but so is pretty much every big time league (maybe excluding the SEC). They also just redid all their facilities.
Finding the right coach isn't as easy as many seem to think.
However, Indiana is a good gig. Grand tradition and history, rabid fan base, great arena atmosphere, and fertile recruiting ground - both in Indiana and nearby Chicago.
Expectations are high there, but they have a history of putting up with shenanigans (see: Knight, Bobby).
I'm talking about behavior, not necessarily recruiting - Indy and their fanbase will put up with a lot as long as the team is winning (see: MSU).
A good hire would be great for the B1G, but will make things that much more challenging for Michigan. Personally, I like when the conference is strong.
Is there any good job that doesn't have high expectations and tough competition? That's what coaches live for.
Considering the Celts are locks for the NBA playoff and he has done a masterful job with the Celtics plus their future is bright aka shit ton of 1st round picks and assets.
It's not happening for IU
Now he can go be a consultant for staee.
FUCK ....... and I do mean FUCK Tom Cream! Fucking despise that guy
who took our jobs and stole all of our pensions?
Hope our Indiana pipeline of recruits doesn't dry up if they bring in a good coach and recruiter. Kind of liked Crean right where he was...
Speaking of Tom Crean, a friend of mine just messaged me with this news, along with the .gif of Wagner running him over. I chuckled, took a sip of my coffee, and before I knew it, three minutes had passed. I just kind of spaced out, mezmerized by the glorious event taking place on the screen.
'Later, Mr. Crean. You will be missed!
Tom for one reason and one reason only......the dude has some of the funniest and most entertaining facial expressions in the B1G, as you can see throughout this thread - TC you will be missed.
I honestly don't know how that same thing hasn't happened to Izzo. He's always halfway on the court barking orders at his players and the refs never do anything about it.
just how bad Crean's conference record was. 71-91 since 2008.
Weren't they on probation/ncaa sanctions when he took over?
But by his third year, IU had some talented (albeit young) players in the rotation. If you excise those first two seasons, his conference record is still a very meh 66-60.
Fire Beilein/hire Crean?
I keed, I keed!
Hope to see Harbaugh support the basketball program more.
This probably should have happened a long time ago. I guess it was fun while it lasted.
Back to living in a van down by the river.
There are some good young coaches out there right now, hope they botch this one.
he's good at musical chairs...
1) please no Brad Stevens
2) am I crazy or is Crean a decent fit at Illinois?
Then Harbaugh would just be shifting his twice-a-year loyalties to another B1G "rival"
Creaned corn canned
Tom, you know what you did!
Tip for any small school looking to interview Crean: Don't make him wait too long in the lobby; the dude will wear out your carpet with all that pacing.
but won't miss his pathetic ass...good riddance
I'll always remember Crean for this
If he was coaching some mid-tier NBA franchise like, say, the Milwaukee Bucks, and was having mediocre seasons, I could see him opting to leave. But he is coaching one of the premiere teams in the league, and he is only a few games out of first place.
Unless he feels his heart truly belongs in college ball, he's not going anywhere. Would be a lateral move for him at best.
It is a step down. Celtics to IU is a step down.
Coaching in the NFL to coaching at Michigan is a step down too. It takes a special person to make that move especially given the handful of NFL franchises that were reportedly interested in Harbaugh at the time.
Plus it took a bit of luck with the timing that the 49ers fired him right when Michigan was looking. If Harbaugh has the 49ers going to the super bowl again he probably doesn't walk away. I doubt the Celtics fire Stevens at the end of the year.
Stevens signed a 6-year contract extension over the summer. The Celtics have improved every year he's been there. Right now they're a borderline title contender, and are much more likely to continue to get better than worse, given how well the franchise is set up. Unlike other organizations (ahem 49ers), the Celtics are all pretty much on the same page at the management level. Oh, and Boston >>> Bloomington. I don't think he even picks up the phone to politely listen when they call.
The Celtics get Brooklyn's No. 1 pick this year, which will have the odds to be the top pick in the lottery.
Since Crean is family to Harbaugh, I am guessing that an extra special ass-whooping will be in store for Indiana this season. Add in the fact that Greg Frey will be amped up as well, this could be an extra extra special ass-whooping.
They could hire a competent coach.
On the other hand, this same AD fired Kevin Wilson and hired Tom Allen as permanent head coach without even inquiring about PJ Fleck.
I just realized that it is almost 15 years to the day that I was first angered by Crean. I picked Marquette to win the tourney that year, and Crean, Dwyane Wade, and company lost to Tulsa in the first round--in the first game that tipped off the 2002 tourney.
I crumpled up my bracket and threw it to the floor in STL; it probably sat there until it was swept into a box and moved to LA last year.
About 15 years from now, he's going to rise up and anger me, but today, I smile.
I will miss his antics, but I won't miss anything else. The guy is a total ass-clown.
Hopefully Indiana goes out and hires someone who is worthy of that program's prestige.
as is his idiot son.
HE RUINED THEIR PROGRAM
Please let them hire Alford, please let them hire Alford....
I want to know if Fred Glass went all Bobby Knight in this meeting.
"I'm just disappointed in the....*kicks credenza*.....FUCKIN' PROGRESS THAT WE MADE!"
Either way, it will be interesting to see which direction they go in next.
I sort of like for our opponents to have crappy coaches. Hope Indiana finds a guy just like Crean to replace him.
$4M buyout - sheesh
I am sure Mark Cuban will pay for that with all of his shark tank profits.
For his family.
This is great on multiple levels: 1) he was an asshole and deserves this and 2) it eliminates the awkward situation with Harbaugh. In fact, Jim will probably make it a point to root hard for us whenever we play IU now.
with Indiana and Washington. Thing is, UW is in the red with their budget, not sure they have the space ($$) to hire a big big time coach...like Wichita coach.
may be my all time favorite moment.
Here's to hoping he runs over Izzo next season.
According to a friend who is a Mizzou alum, he was being considered there. That was a few weeks ago.
Hello Steve Alford. Would be a great fit and honestly should have happened years ago.
Harbaugh and Bo but with Alford and Knight.
We (GT basketball) got a coach fired?!
I honestly thought when he went he would've taken an involuntary Medical Hardship or transferred..
so will Izzo retire and Crean take over at MSU?
I share the general overall view of Crean based on the Meyer incident and his general demeanor. That said, I have hard time taking much pleasure in anyone (or nearly anyone) getting fired. Not criticizing -- I get the dislike he's earned, but also know that losing a position is tough even if it's not a financial issue.
Crean won a Big Ten Title last year. Usually that buys you at least a couple years. This surprises me a bit.
I hope for the IU AD's sake that he has a can't-miss prospect ready to bring in. Many of the IU fans seem to have a pretty short list of coaches they're willing to accept, Firing Crean is easy; hiring somebody that will satisfy the fanbase, not so much.