Illinois player out tonight with mumps(!)

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Khalid Lewis of #Illini has mumps although John Groce wouldn't name him specifically. He's "day to day," the coach said. #dechr

— Mark Tupper (@MarkTupper) December 29, 2015
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drjaws

December 30th, 2015 at 3:16 PM ^

This post is factually incorrect in so many ways. Read about thimerosol. Then read about ethyl vs methyl mercury.

There is literally ZERO scientific evidence that there is one iota that links vaccines to autism.

In fact, I can think of two studies done in Europe that have shown higher cases of autism in unvaccinated children.

Anyone linking the words "immunization" with "autism" is less correct than people that thought the world was flat.



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xtramelanin

December 30th, 2015 at 8:49 PM ^

and recognize that it is a political football.   i was a 300-level chem student, and took the stats tests for my teamates at michigan because i get the numbers.  if you really want to be motivated to learn, have an extremely sick child and know you need to learn and understand the science like nothing you ever studied before.  we consulted with some of the best immunologists in our country, we studied, we read, we asked questions.   some places to look for information include www.fourteenstudies.org which has a pretty succint summary of relevant studies.  they show among many things

1.   Thimersol (mercury) and aluminum are highly toxic and damaging to the nervous system and immune system of developing children, and cite 9 separate published studies to back it up.

2.  Higher levels of environmental mercury has been shown to produce higher rates of autism

3.  Thimersol (mercury) enters the bloodstream of the child and ends up in the brain after being administerd.

4.  Children who receive the entire 3-shot series of Hep B vaccine have a 9X higher rate of developmental disabilities than unvaccinated children

you can find other more anecdotal info in reuters articles, huffpo, and even places like truthkings and  Dr. Tenpenny on vacccines, www.facebook.com/vaccineinfo/

it's a real thing.  it is worthy of a cautious approach, not the herd mentality.

 

 


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PB-J Time

December 30th, 2015 at 12:38 PM ^

GBNYC has it right. Shouldn't be contentious. The sun rises in the east, sets in the west, the earth is round, vaccines prevent terrible sometimes deadly diseases and are safe. VACCINATE!



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Clarence Beeks

December 30th, 2015 at 12:45 PM ^

People need to stop with the political commentary on vaccinations. Not only does it break the "no politics" rule, but no one here has any idea whether that is relevant to this situation or not. Hell, last year mumps took down a sizable percentage of an entire NHL team, WHO WERE VACCINATED. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2014/12/26/two-more-p…



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GoBlueInNYC

December 30th, 2015 at 12:59 PM ^

As one of the commentators, I will say that my first thought was not about vaccinations - the guy's college aged and on a DI basketball team (probably had to be vaccinated as some point as a requirement of some school or program or league or team). I figured this was more of a random thing - according to Wikipedia early 20s is a more common age for the vaccinated to contract the mumps.

But I waded into this argument for two reason: 1. Vaccines are not a political issue, they're a public health one, plain and simple. 2. As I stated above, unlike other issues, agreeing to disagree about this actively hurts people, especially children. And politely keeping quiet about such a baseless and insane movement isn't helping anytthing.

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UNCWolverine

December 30th, 2015 at 12:49 PM ^

So back to the basketball part of this....

He's 10th in scoring for Illinois so this is the equivalent of us being without Wagner or Chapman. So not a real big loss for them.

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pz

December 30th, 2015 at 12:55 PM ^

Don't most schools require standard vaccinations (including MMR) before enrolling and/or living on campus? I'm pretty sure Michigan did - or maybe they were just requesting the vaccination records as a courtesy (wink/nudge) and not a requirement...

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bgoblue02

December 30th, 2015 at 12:59 PM ^

but depending on the state / school there are some "religious" exemptions, so thats why some districts (like one on California whose name escapes me) has a very low vaccination rate because they are very easy on their "religious" exemption requirements.

 

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The Mad Hatter

December 30th, 2015 at 3:51 PM ^

I'm not sure if it was at Disney, though that would make sense since that would hurt the state in the pocketbook by scaring tourists away, but I do remember that it was a measles outbreak that led to the push for the legislation.

And honestly not a moment too soon.  For better or worse, much of the nation follows California's lead on many issues, and having what is perceived to be such a "liberal" state tell their hippies (and their counterparts on the other side of the spectrum) to stfu and listen to medical advice serves as a great example for the rest of the nation.

Michigan is terrible in this regard.  Our law is as permissive as California's was before they changed it.

 

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MotownGoBlue

December 30th, 2015 at 1:11 PM ^

Got mine earlier this month (1st time ever) but my wife (mom's an anesthesiologist) says no to the shot. For the record, it gave my shoulder a good jolt and I experienced some soreness and burning for a few days afterwards. No discoloration but it felt as if I did one too many flys with the wrong dumbell. I haven't experienced any flu-like symptoms.

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JamieH

December 30th, 2015 at 2:10 PM ^

then someone is giving you shots wrong.


I took allergy shots once a week my entire childhood, and I now take a shot once a week for a different medication.  It is really almost a complete non-deal.  I think in the last 60 shots I've had, maybe 2 have been painful, and of those, only 1 actually was a big deal--that one hit a nerve or something and hurt for about 10 minutes.  The other 58 were almost completely painless.

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OlafThe5Star

December 30th, 2015 at 5:10 PM ^

Many people are "afraid" of needles because they suffer from vasovagal syncope. I should know, since I am one of them. 

Basically, one's body overreacts to stimuli (in this case, needles), causing a drop in blood pressure that can lead to fainting. In my case, it leads to naseau and some incredibly intense sweating as well. It's not fun. There is litereally nothing I can do about it. I actually developed it while at U of M, having had dozens of shots before that without incident. Then, one day at the dental school, got a little lidocaine, felt dizy/naseaus and woke up with an (entirely unncessary) oxygen mask on. 

Since it is a physiological reaction that causes the symptoms, it's pretty easy to adjust for it -- just lie down so that the drop in blood pressure doesn't cause such a severe drop in blood to the brain. 

I get the reaction whether the shot or blood draw is expertly applied or completely botched. 

FWIW, I still get all of my vaccinations and have my blood routinely drawn to check for cholesterol, etc. 

Here is more info on it: 

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/vasovagal-syncope/basics/…

 

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leu2500

December 30th, 2015 at 2:07 PM ^

Against 3 versions of the virus, not just one. They have also come out with a version that provides protection against 4 versions of the virus. At additional cost, of course.

The problem with the vaccine is that due to the lead time to produce the vaccine they have to make an educated guess as to which 3 versions of the virus will be prevalent. Some years they guess wrong.

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