Lottery: they will have equal chances to get the first pick, but ultimately it's a matter of luck.
Yep, they each get the average odds of what the otherwise 1-3 teams would get
Odd that the OP is interested enough to ask the question, but not interested enough in the NBA to have never watched the ping pong ball thing.
Or just use Google...
Doesn't matter. The Pistons will mess it up.
Something like this perhaps?
Adam Silver: "And what are your hobbies outside summarizing?"
Alex Martins: "Strangling animals, golf and masturbating."
oh, man, that's a fantastic freaking pull. one of my all-time favorites.
"he's really let himself down on the hobbies, golf is still very popular 'round here."
Houston or Orlando, obviously.
Whomever the NBA wants to give the first pick to, it's a "lotto", that favors the major city they want to reward unless it's a bad draft year. Oh but you can guarantee Sacramento get a 6-10 slot no matter what. Sorry former kings fan, hate the NBA now.
Pistons literally just won the lottery in the best draft year since probably 2003. This is absurd conspiracy theory. The lottery isn’t rigged.
Kings have had the #1 pick 1 time in their history(1989). Over 20 years without a playoff appearance, numerous last place finishes. The league let the refs betting decide the 2002 wcf vs them. The NBA rewards who the want for the $$$. It's smart as a business to send the #1 player to a big city and they make sure it's a high probability.
Before last year, the Pistons had never moved up in the lottery in their entire history. They stayed in their slot or moved back every time.
Every fan in the NBA thinks the league rigs things against their team. Even Lakers and Celtics fans think this.
I'm with you with a few exceptions. Cleveland getting LeBron and Chicago getting Derrick Rose were NOT coincidences and I'll absolutely die on that hill.
Patrick Ewing says hello.
So your go-to example is 40 years ago? Got it
If that lottery was legit, they would show it on TV live or post the video after it was done. As of of now, the random lottery is somebody putting envelopes on a wall.
To piggyback off that point -
While the NBA lottery isn't rigged, I think David Stern (NBA commish at the time) was well aware of the rumors about such and was 1000% fine with tacitly milking that for all it was worth to drive interest in the league. While that might seem self-defeating on the surface it would have the net effect of getting people to talk more about the NBA.
You know who got the first pick last year and who they were able to select, right?
So you think that the 30 odd so other hyper competitive billionaires would be totally chill with being cheated out of a draft pick? And that Deloitte would be ok with potentially wrecking their corporate reputation? Or that Vegas wouldn't have figured this out?
I remember an owner joking that the lottery was fixed based on who showed up as the team representatives. https://nba.nbcsports.com/2011/05/18/wolves-gm-kahn-says-fixed-lottery-comment-was-joke/amp/
I literally understand your passion. I go here on a daily basis, hope this helps.
https://www.tankathon.com/pick_odds
Item 9 addresses your specific question.
Item 9 addresses how same record picks are made OUTSIDE the lottery.
All of the 3 worst teams have the same odds (14.5%) of winning the #1 pick. The worst team can only fall as far as #5 though, 2nd worst-6th, 3rd worst-7th. If I understand the OP he’s trying to figure out who could fall to 7th it all of the bottom 3 teams have the worst record.
Don't the bottom four teams all get the same draft lottery odds now?
The first pick odds are the same for the bottom 3 teams but there's a difference in odds for the 2nd, 3rd, 4th picks.. Etc.
Ties are settled via coin flips. Last year there were quite a few
4. CLE/OKC
8. ORL (via CHI)/NOP/SAC
11. CHA/SAS (if both lose in play-in)
19. NYK/ATL
21. HOU (via POR)/LAL/NYK (via DAL)
25. LAC/DEN
All the jackasses above you were either wrong or just being jackasses. You're the first person to say something accurate.
If teams tie for picks 1,2, and 3 the "coin flip" is incredibly important. If pull the "1" slot then you can't fall further than the 5th pick. If you pull the 3rd slot you can fall all the way to 7th under the current system. Some years the 7th pick gets you Franz Wagner or Steph Curry and a lot of hope other years the 7th pick gets you Kirk Hinrich. Statistically there's a big fall off after the 5th pick.
Thank you. This was exactly what i was looking for. This board has become almost un-readable.
Rock, paper, scissors.
Wow, that's actually correct.
Yikes. Seeing Houston and Detroit, I immediately wondered if we were really putting the Tigers in the basement.
(Yeah, of course Houston's good in baseball, and Orlando doesn't haven MLBM. It was just my brain making a weird leap on a quick scan of info.)
Not surprised based on this accolade:
"L.A. Times high school football player of the year: Mason Graham."
LA is full of talent, so this bodes well.
https://www.latimes.com/sports/highschool/story/2021-12-19/la-times-football-player-of-the-year-mason-graham
Mason Graham gets to decide who gets the first draft pick?
This is actually a plot-line in Winning Time! LAT high school football POY always gets final say on the NBA #1 overall pick.
The top 4 picks are decided by drawing, then 5-14 slot in after that in the order they finished, I believe. The 3 worst all have a equal 14% chance of getting the top pick.
So if they all finish tied for worst, the lowest the Pistons would draft is #7 - if 4 teams other than Orlando, Houston, and Detroit get the top 4 picks and then Detroit loses the tie-breaking tosses.
I would be pissed. I believe this draft has 4 players that would be great additions, then it drops off substantially. Holmgren (I don't like it but I get it), Smith (my personal #1 pick), Banchero, or Ivey.
I think most mocks have Keegan Murray going 5th. Eh. It would really suck to be that close to getting a playmaker as the next piece for a really exciting team to getting a meh.
The top 4 players are perfect to fit with Cade. I think Ivey and Smith are the best fits, but I think I would have a hard time convincing people to draft Ivey as high as 2 potentially.
Bancero and Cade looks like they play the same . He would be 4th.
I think Banchero is the perfect guy to pair him with…especially if they trade Grant this off-season
Sharpe from Kentucky and Griffin from Duke also have All star upside so I think there can be some serious hits outside the top 4.
🤔 NBA has utilized a lottery system since the 1990 draft. Chris Webber was a senior at Country Day for reference. They will all have an equal shot at #1.
1985*
Otherwise you’d miss out on the most controversial lottery of all time when the “cold envelope” gave the Knicks Patrick Ewing
The Pacers.
Well first they let Detroit know they will be last, then I'm not sure.
March 31st, 2022 at 10:51 PM ^
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Cade and Bey lit it up again as the Piston beat the 76ers tonight. Livers had a nice game off the bench. Hopefully they will stay in the top three for the best odds.
Just need to land a top 4 pick in this draft. For the most part the top 4 are pretty interchangeable and good prospects.
That said I would really like the Pistons to stay away from Jaden Ivey. There is just something about the way he plays that makes me think he is never going to be a difference maker in the NBA.
So which one is it dude? Are they interchangeable or is Ivey not a difference maker? Because Ivey is a consensus top 4 pick as of now.
Its both, really. I would take him at 4 and not be crushed but I would roll with one of the forward types in the top 3. Though both AJ Griffin & Benedict Mathurin are starting to sneak into the top 4 in a lot of mocks, dude.
The ping pong balls decide their fate