If anywhere, where does Beilein coach next and when?
With the talk of Beilein being on the way out in Cleveland, it got me thinking...
Does he retire? If he comes back to the college ranks, or heaven forbid, the Big Ten, where do you see a good fit and where do you absolutely not want him to end up?
Izzo calls it quits and MSU hires Beilein in a couple years crossed my mind.
Who ya got??
February 17th, 2020 at 9:26 PM ^
MSU hiring Beilein is the dumbest take I have ever heard.
Congrats on that.
February 17th, 2020 at 10:12 PM ^
The WNBA Chicago Sky would've actually somehow been a better guess than MSU.
That's pretty much the only place he hasn't coached.
(Their coach just got Coach of the Year so they're not a possibility.)
February 18th, 2020 at 2:43 AM ^
See Dwane Casey
February 17th, 2020 at 10:52 PM ^
I may not have worded it the best. I don't see Beilein ever at MSU either, but boy would that be a kick to the gonads.
February 17th, 2020 at 11:12 PM ^
The idea that MSU would replace a retiring Izzo with a man older than Izzo . . . yeah, that's not going to happen.
February 18th, 2020 at 1:19 AM ^
Yeah, I wouldn't even be mad. I'd laugh so hard at Sparty if a nearly 70 year old dude that doesn't recruit well enough to get a team up and running quickly is their best option.
February 18th, 2020 at 12:37 PM ^
This brings up an interesting question... who would Izzo hire? For a guy with such an elite track record, he has a surprisingly thin coaching tree. Conventional wisdom would dictate they promote from within, but do they have a top assistant who can carry the torch?
February 17th, 2020 at 9:27 PM ^
Somewhere where they don't recruit any "slugs"
February 17th, 2020 at 9:27 PM ^
An AAU team or CYO.
February 17th, 2020 at 9:31 PM ^
Indiana. Brian was only half joking when he made that joke. But I don’t have any qualms about Archie Miller getting canned if JB still wants to coach.
That said, I do not want to see JB take over IU. He’s at the end of the his career, and Juwan will beat him in the long run, but I don’t want him to set IU’s table.
Honestly, I kinda hope he retires with his coaching dignity intact. He can have one of the court side seats at Crisler. I think Juwan would welcome him.
February 17th, 2020 at 10:56 PM ^
Television is the obvious move to me... gets to stay close to game and gets to analyze...and he won't have to recruit...
I'll be shocked if at this point he coaches a team.. if he does, better hope he doesn't go to MSU... Izzo is gonna ditch soon, though I think Fife will be promoted.
February 18th, 2020 at 12:07 AM ^
IU already hates Archie's recruiting. I don't think they will approve of Beilein's especially now that his shine has worn a little bit w/ the poor showing in the NBA.
February 17th, 2020 at 9:31 PM ^
While I am a huge Juwan Howard guy and think he will do great things here (as well as just being a fantastic college basketball story given his journey from the Fab 5 to HC at Michigan), all I can think is that:
Iggy is averaging 1.9 ppg for a 17-38 Knicks team
Jordan Poole is hitting 26% of his 3s on the 12-43 Zombie Warriors
John Beilein is contemplating quitting the 14-40 Cavaliers.
If they had come back for this year's Michigan season, they'd likely be a top 5 team, top of the Big Ten and in contention for a national title.
I'm sure the money softens the blow of all the losses, but still.
February 17th, 2020 at 9:34 PM ^
Absolutely. Add two All Big Ten players to the current lineup and you have a top five team.
February 18th, 2020 at 12:43 AM ^
I think we would currently be ranked in the 11-15 range if Livers hadn't gotten injured.
With a healthy Livers, I think we beat:
- Minnesota on the road
- Iowa on the road
- Illinois in Crisler
- Ohio State in Crisler
Livers flips 3-4 games. That gives us a record of 19-6 or 20-5.
February 18th, 2020 at 1:41 AM ^
If your point is that we're pretty good as is, I agree. What put us out of contention is the Livers injury and very bad luck for a stretch of games as much as the departures.
To be honest, I would rather have Johns and Franz than Iggy right now. They're both better defenders and team players and both have much higher ceilings, if they aren't better than Iggy already. People did not like playing with Iggy last year and it caused chemistry issues.
And Poole had his own selfish tendencies. Not to mention Brooks is shooting better from three than Poole did last year despite the line moving back. Brooks is also a superior defender so I'm not all that bent out of shape about his replacement either.
Michigan is a really good team. Talent is way better than people give them credit for and they're experienced which matters when the experience has been well coached. Every bit playing like a top 10 squad which is all we could have asked for. Watch out come March.
February 18th, 2020 at 6:11 AM ^
I'm with you. I loved Jordan but he had some growing up to do. Iggy could have used a mental adjustment as well; both those guys would have benefited from coming back. Still, you can't help but see how much better the team is than the pundits had us; we have the ability to make a lot of noise come March, and maybe April! This team is more of a team than last year's team was; I appreciate all our teams but it's easier to get behind this one than last years team.
February 17th, 2020 at 9:32 PM ^
Coach B is 67 years old. Going to MSU in a couple years is.....lame!!!
If he leaves Cleveland, he should retire.
I guess babysitting millionaires isn't his cup of tea....
February 17th, 2020 at 10:01 PM ^
Boeheim is a ripe 75 years old.
I could see Beilein stopping for a brief stint at Syracuse to transition to the next long term coach.
But I seriously doubt he coaches anywhere on the college level though.
February 18th, 2020 at 12:46 PM ^
But Syracuse wouldn't hire a guy Boeheim's age now. He's just been given the right to decide when he wants to retire.
February 17th, 2020 at 9:33 PM ^
Maybe the NCAA hires him to administer discipline for cheating programs? Nah, that would be a harder job than coaching the NBA.
February 17th, 2020 at 9:40 PM ^
LOL! First day on the job he’d puke his guts out from disgust. Second day he’d get fired for actually penalizing some school.
February 17th, 2020 at 9:33 PM ^
Isn't he 68? I'm not worried about him building a program anywhere.
February 17th, 2020 at 9:57 PM ^
Amen!!! I'm 3 weeks older than John and in excellent health. But the decision John made to jump to the NBA was well into the insanity range. And otherwise this mess is on John and falls into his lap-his responsibility. This was/is stupidity in all capital letters.
John, you required a heart procedure. Listen to someone besides yourself here! RETIRE!!!
February 17th, 2020 at 9:35 PM ^
Minnesota
February 17th, 2020 at 9:37 PM ^
Northwestern.
February 17th, 2020 at 10:53 PM ^
Northeastern
February 18th, 2020 at 7:24 AM ^
Northsouthern
February 18th, 2020 at 8:57 AM ^
The East Westchester North Stars (champions of the Southern Conference).
February 17th, 2020 at 9:35 PM ^
I think he'll stop coaching at least for now.
February 17th, 2020 at 9:37 PM ^
It's hard to say, because nobody really knows what coach Beilein is going to WANT to do.
If he decides to come back to college -- despite all the things that are going on that some think drove him to taking an NBA job -- will he want to take on a high profile job knowing that he's going to have to recruit harder than ever?
Or maybe he takes a non-blueblood job so he can find his unpolished gems and have 4 year players and maybe not live under the microscope 24/7/365?
Or maybe he feels like building a program for a few years that's been bad or which has no history at all?
Hell, maybe he'll want to retire. Or be a bench coach for Patrick if his son gets back into coaching. Or maybe he'll go coach a high school team.
I wonder if he'd be interested in a TV job, I bet he'd be pretty good at that.
February 17th, 2020 at 9:39 PM ^
After "stealing" Duncan Robinson, it would only be fair for Beilein to coach at Williams College. Go Ephs!
February 17th, 2020 at 9:45 PM ^
depends on how much of an issue Patrick is having imo... if some reports are right, that has also played a role on him considering leaving the Cavs.
I do believe he doesn't like big time recruiting, so i am not sure if that is something he would return to...that said, i think the top BBall teams would be 1) Texas 2) BC 3) Indiana
I think there's a chance he stays on with the Cavs in a non coaching role, but what i would love to see him do is an TV analyst role: he'd be tremendous, keeps him close to the game, but doesn't have the same pressures of coaching...
February 17th, 2020 at 9:48 PM ^
Wherever he goes I will root for him (except any Big 10 Team).
The cool thing is that he will have quite a few options at the college level, and he will once again decide on his own terms where and when to coach.
February 17th, 2020 at 9:52 PM ^
Ivy League, or somewhere else where he's not competing on an uneven playing field against teams that use bagmen with relish.
February 17th, 2020 at 9:53 PM ^
Retirement
February 17th, 2020 at 9:55 PM ^
i would guess that he goes to a big east team, especially since WVU is now in the big 12. it's closer to his roots. i doubt he wants to compete against UM. he has seemed to try to avoid coaching against former teams through all of his career moves.
February 17th, 2020 at 9:55 PM ^
He'll buy and manage a Subway franchise.
Subs every night of course. It will be crazy.
February 17th, 2020 at 9:56 PM ^
I think he should take up a nice cozy seat next to Martelli as a “consultant” for Juwan. He doesn't need head coach money or head coach stress anymore anyway. Why not end his career in a friendly place in a couple years we when the last of his recruits moves on?
February 17th, 2020 at 10:01 PM ^
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For everyone's sake. A very, very bad idea.
February 17th, 2020 at 10:24 PM ^
Why? You obviously think either JB or JH, or both, wouldn’t be able to handle it. I call BS! I think they could work together as well as anyone. Phil seems to be doing just fine in, what appears to be, his retirement gig.
February 18th, 2020 at 7:08 AM ^
John has nothing to offer Juwan. Their concepts and philosophies of play are diametrically opposed. This would be a recipe for a disaster. The BS here is that you know nothing about coaching. There is a time and a place for diversity and alternative POVs-this is not is neither. This would be a muddying of the waters in every bad way possible.
February 17th, 2020 at 10:01 PM ^
This is tasty
February 18th, 2020 at 7:53 AM ^
This would be like having your ex move in with you and your wife.
Juwan has been given the keys to the program. Why would anyone think bringing in the former guy to "help" him would ever work?
February 18th, 2020 at 12:59 PM ^
Welcome to West Virginia
February 18th, 2020 at 12:25 PM ^
Not while any of Beilein's own recruits are here. You don't want him undermining Juwan's authority. Maybe in 4-5 years.
February 17th, 2020 at 9:58 PM ^
Texas - Smart gets the axe and Beilein is reunited with Yakich. You may also see him as an analyst this year during March Madness.
February 17th, 2020 at 10:00 PM ^
What SHOULD happen: Martelli gets another shot at being the head man at a Philly area school; this has been mentioned elsewhere as his preference to remaining an assistant. Beilein fills Martelli’s assistant slot on Howard’s staff. He can help develop the studs Howard brings in and not have to worry so much about recruiting. He finishes his career where he should have in the first place (and rectifies the wrong of abandoning us to begin with). And in doing so he finally serves as an assistant for the first time in his career, getting a taste of that life before he retires.
What WILL happen: Not the thing listed above.
February 17th, 2020 at 10:09 PM ^
Who are you guys-a bunch of 13 year olds???
February 17th, 2020 at 10:56 PM ^
For someone who goes by "outsidethebox" you sure as hell think a lot insidethebox