There is a rumor going on around the Scout boards that it's down to Michigan and Indiana for Gunner's services.
Gunner Kiel has a top 2?
Is there a link to confirm that, or a reliable source?
I clicked on this thinking it would be Michigan and Oklahoma. It being Michigan AND INDIANA is a jaw-dropper.
His brother goes there, it's only about 40 miles from home, the new HC is the former Oklahoma OC and you can't forget that their new QB coach is our previous one.
commit there he wouldn't really compete with his brother either. Dusty is a redshirt sophomore so even if he started this year, or 2012 and 2013, gunner could learn under him for his freshman and sophomore seasons, or redshirt and start for 3 years and not force his brother out of the qb spot. At first I thought they would overlap more and ruled Indiana out but now it's not so crazy, even if the rumor is just that.
Was just wondering if the QB coach you were refering to was Scott Loefler? (I probably spelled his name incorrectly) Ive always been under the impression that he was a significant part of Michigan becoming QB U. If I recall correctly, he was very good at developing and recruiting QBs. Lets hope Kiel picks Michigan GO BLUE!!!!
Rod Smith, IIRC. Lefty went to FL last I heard.
wat. That rumor had legs until you said "Indiana"
For a kid from Columbus, Indiana it isn't that shocking. Bloomington is less than an hour's drive from Columbus and is generally considered the school in Indiana where the "cool kids" want to go. And it's not like it's a bad school. Not Michigan quality but certainly he would get a good education there.
Being from Indiana, your statement is pretty much spot on.
Bloomington, which is full of foxes-way better than AA or EL. I was head tennis pro @ the top Resort between Bloomington and Columbus for 3 years during law school and summers. The drive is not bad and the women left this old guy with fond life long memories. So not so crazy w/ his bro there and the offense they are running.
By the way, the IU folks tell me Kiel is M bound.
I'm hoping for a comeback of the "fox". That avatar of Adrian is a fox.
Tom Beaver has said this for a few days. Take it FWIW based on how much credence you give him. I don't know his source but I have a real hard time believing this is true.
I'd be careful getting too excited about anything that's sourced exclusively by Tom Beaver. He does have good sources, but he's a bit excitable....
Yeah, I know. That's why I felt I should include the take it FWIW part. He could be right, he could be wrong, and I can feasibly see Kiel going to either school but a final two of UM and Indiana seems a little far-fetched.
Assuming this is true are we favorites here?
I would say we're one of his two favorites
Here, let me google that for you (it's the first result)
Anything about Indiana brings Bill Lynch to mind.
...was intercepted by Donovan Warren too. It was a bad day for Lynch....
that really make the max score of 5 frustrating. I will upvote it, however, just so I can see the score pulse like it is growing more powerful. An even stronger 5, if you will.
NFL scouts were impressed with his 40 time after this run
He'd be a deity in Indiana if he stayed home. There's something to be said for being a big fish in a small pond.
That being said, if you asked me a few weeks ago to pick his final two, I would have said Oklahoma and Alabama, and I would have thought that those two were ahead by a comfortable margin. Goes to show what I know . . .
We're already putting together a really nice recruiting class though, and if he were to hop on board quickly, you'd think we'd really clean up on the rest of our class. He'd be a nice get.
He would be a deity, but he does not seem like the kind of kid who would want to be a deity. A lot of recruits absolutely love the spotlight and would cherish that opportunity (cough cough Pryor) but Kiel has been so quiet and humble that it seems like he would not want to be considered a "deity" at Indiana
Indiana for rills?
Should be an easy pick-up.
Didn't Tom VH already tell us that the family keeps things pretty close. How about you just wait till he announces? Wait........who am I kidding, it's the offseason!
They have a new coach who coached great qbs at oklahoma, this is not as big of a deal as everyones making it.
This is really difficult to believe. Sounds like B.S. If its true, it seems completely out of the Blue.
It's his home state, it's not that crazy.
Right, but all the talk for the last couple weeks was that Alabama and Oklahoma were the frontrunners and that Michigan had an outside shot. It seems like a 180 if he is actually down to Michigan and Indiana.
As a Purdue student and a Michigan fan, I will SHIT if he goes to IU
I advise that you shit either way. I take a good fiber supplement I'd be happy to recommend.
As a human being and consumer of food, I shit daily.
Not sure if the IU vs. UM rumor is true, but there are other rumors about him wanting to stay close to home so its not that hard to believe
It's really cool if it's true, but when OU seemed like the front-runner for a long time, it seems odd to have eliminated them. I would buy this if it was a top three of M, IU and OU.
This can't be true, Tom said don't get to excited about the Kiel rumors......please be true, please be true!... TOMV, WHERE ARE YOU!?
He's probably hiding out in the reality wing of MGoBlog.
I credit you with the rare Underrated recognition.
and say the #1 QB in the country isn't going to a program that will win 3 games next year...
Who was that RB a few years back that was a top 10 overall recruit on Rivals that went to CU to be with his cousin or nephew?
he was a massive, massive bust.
Darrell Scott from California? He transferred to USF after his second year at Colorado and is probably going to start this year. He should destroy the Big East; had a great spring.
They've lost a few of the new coaches, but I respect the choices they've made.
It's Tom Beaver, so I really have trouble believing it. Anyway, he's been high on Bama and Oklahoma forever, it's a highly unlikely story. These kinds of rumors come out all the time for highly touted prospects, I wouldn't give it much credence.
The only thing that would make me give this even the slightest bit of credence is that Beaver is getting some of this stuff from Allen Trieu, who is a national guy and probably more reliable than Tom Beaver.
I don't know much about Tom Beaver. Does he just have a happy trigger finger when it comes to sharing rumors? Is his track record really terrible?
in that he's often the first person to know when someone has committed (Scout usually beats Rivals to the punch on that stuff).
He's just...indiscriminate. He'll pass on silent commitments that he's heard of from someone on the staff and rumors he's heard of from who knows where and won't make a clear distinction between the two. There's some "Michigan leads for recruit X!!!" stuff, which will be followed 2 weeks later by the guy committing elsewhere.
He's a good source if you take him with a grain of salt, which most Scout subscribers do not do.
rock solid and right on w/ his info. sometimes things change, but if he said @ pt. 1 it was A= it was in fact A.
I could be wrong here but I'm going to bet not... My sources say he's going to Southwest Los Angeles Community College Santa Monica Campus.
Ondre Pipkins is going to Saginaw Valley State... /s
I'm glad you included that /s
Must be why he is planning on making another visit to bama, after he just visited OU which was after he visited bama which was after he visited OU which was after he visited bama which just so happens to have been after he visited OU.
what possible bearing this could have on his college choice.
Gunner would not be worshipped in Indiana if he stayed...they don't care about football.
I won't believe anything until I see it at this point. Cannot believe anyone that is the top player in the nation at their postiion would consider Indiana. I just won't believe it. When is the last time Indiana got a 4*, let alone a 5*? Have they ever?
at least to some sites.
Can't imagine Randle-el wouldn't have been a 4 star just based on sheer athleticism.
James Hardy was only a two star
and wasn't Borges the OC at Indiana with Randle-El? If so, I doubt you'd have ever heard of R.El sans Borges.
Was not a bad player, though I don't know what his rating was going into college.
Still not a bad player, actually.
Eta: sorry, redundant, great minds and all that.
Raymon Taylor too. Getting commitments from and getting the players out on the field are two different things for them.
Does Jeremy Finch count?
To be devil's advocate, consider that if Kiel goes Blue, he'll probably redshirt his first season and then back up Devin Gardner for two years before getting a crack at the starting job--which he knows he'll have to compete with Shane Morris (and potentially others) for. But if he goes to IU, from where Ben Chappell has just graduated, Kiel likely starts as a freshman and plays four years. That's in addition to IU being a good school in a fun college town.
Dusty Kiel is a RS sophomore QB at Indiana, so that means Gunner will have to compete with his brother for the starting job for the first two years and then with others after that. How is that better than competing for the job at Michigan? At a minimum, beating out your older brother would be awkward.
performing mop up duty against said older brother may be equally awkward.
Their parents must have been expecting labradors but got children instead.
This comment also deserves way more than 5 pts.
They should get his dorm ready in A2
That would be a hell of a first commit for Indiana....
If they get him, IU should make it a one-man recruiting class this year just so they can claim the greatest recruiting class - in terms of average quality - in the history of college football.
Already said he'd be surprised if Kiel came to AA. Also, there are only two scout people I trust, and Allen Trieu is one of them.
Is there a contest here? Ann Arbor versus Bloomington?
One of them is a party school with tons of beautiful, fairly superficial teenaged girls. (Full disclosure: I am from Indiana.) The other has a great football tradition. It really depends on the kid's priorities.
He must also love the smell of garbage for that to happen.
turn a blind eye to cheating.
Apparently it'd add to tradition
Don't underestimate Bobby Knight....he's pretty charismatic
Dusty and Gunner, eh? Pretty good names. Also, I don't believe this story at all, but if it is true and we lose the #1 QB in the country to goddamn Indiana I am just gonna lose it like Will Ferrel in Old School after his failed mascot stunt.
Compliments to your name Mr Lahey, it is the SHIT!!!
Anyone have any insight into our chances with DGB if Kiel did commit here?
Slim and none, and slim just joined the Franciscan Order and gave up football.
Indiana would be the next best thing to Michigan. IU is Sparty's annual cross-over game. I've been trying to figure out how they're going to be good enough to knock Sparty off once in a while. Gunner would help.
is that when I read your comment, I thought "sonuvabitch! That's so unrealistic, there's no way. . . " Then I realized that pipeline points are only in effect when I'm playing my 360. Well done.
See I thought it was because they got that x2 with those damn advisors. That or an A+ visit.
Quality over Quantity.
Tom VH has chosen to abstain from this thread. I'm not going to get my hopes up just yet.
He generally abstains from sharing things that he feels the athletes might not want known, though. If this Top 2 is just conjecture, or information that was not supposed to be shared, Tom wouldn't weigh in on it.
Well, he already addressed this by telling us not to get our hopes up. Tom is usually spot on when he says something like this. If we had a chance, he would have either not said anything at all, or told us about his good feeling.
I have posted this for a few weeks now. Indiana is the lock, bet the farm.
I don't live in Indiana. I don't have a farm.
IU is a solid school and a total blast..but that football team is WEAK
Wow if these rumors are true I like our chances against Indiana. Check out the latest Info and see Whats happening with Michigan
Jeez oh pete
to believe this, I just can't. Too much talk about him and Oklahoma/Alabama recently to find this legitimate.
Kiel would have to be one of highest rated recruits in the history of IU.
And how many times has Michigan lost a recruiting battle to the Hoosiers?
He would also be the highest rated QB in our history (rivals era) besides Ryan Mallet. Henne was 5-star but actually ranked a bit lower if I'm not mistaken.
Henne was ranked #13 overall but only #4 at his position (behind Rhett Bomar, Xavier Lee and Anthony Morelli... talk about a trio of busts). Kiel is #19 overall right now, but from the sound of things regarding his camp performances, might be on his way up.
was the last one I believe.
Probably have to go back to vaughn Dunbar maybe?
I cannot find any information on this, and I just don't see Kiel going to IU. If it said Michigan and Alabama ... I might believe it then.
The Sooners were expecting him to commit yesterday and now all of the sudden he's dropped them completely and it's down to Indialna and Michigan??? I guess weirder things have occurred but seems highly unlikely!
The new coach at IU is the pass happy former OC of Oklahoma, im sure this has something to do with it. Maybe selling Kiel on staying in state with an offensive guru...
Its a tough decision for any high school player and I wish him the best and hope its with the Leaders and the Best. This could easily put us in the top 5 for recruiting for this class.
May be he had a change of heart about leaving the midwest. Ann Arbor isn't as far as Bama or Norman. I really don't buy this rumor though. I will be pleasantly surprised if he chooses Michigan. I will be shocked if he chooses Indiana.
I give this two fakes out of five