The Gholston attack on Denard

Submitted by Indiana Blue on

I was at the game and could not see the attempt to break Denard's neck.  Just back home and this was the single worst behavior I have ever seen on a football field.  This was a deliberate attempt to injure a defenseless player that was on the ground.  This incident needs to be shown to EVERY coach in college football and then the B1G and the NCAA need to let Gholston know that he is permanently banned from playing college football.  The NFL would ban him for this behavior  -  intentionally attacking a defenseless player with the sole intent of injury (or worse) as Denard could have been permanently injured.

I pray that ESPN and B1G Network take the lead by showing the replay over and over so that every college football coach and fan knows exactly what Gholston did.

Go Blue! 

Darth Wolverine

October 15th, 2011 at 8:20 PM ^

Over react? What the OP says is true. That Gholston kid is a dirty player. He tried to injure Denard and got caught doing so. He punched Taylor and got caught doing so. The guy needs to be suspended, but we all know he won't be.

In reply to by Darth Wolverine

wildbackdunesman

October 15th, 2011 at 8:26 PM ^

My gut says Dantonio probably won't suspend him with Wisconsin next, but I do think the B1G will step in and suspend Gholston - I don't see how they can't; they have suspended players for significantly less.

I think most people realize Gholston was dirty.  I said this earlier, I sat next to a professor at MSU who apologized to me that MSU was playing "dirty."  I think he also said Rush was in his class.

A suspension will almost assuredly come...if not, then we can blow up.

wildbackdunesman

October 16th, 2011 at 9:14 AM ^

Gholston had a dangerous chop on Lewan, a late hit on Denard, another late hit on Denard with a dangerous neck twisitng facemask, and a punch at Lewan. 

What did MSU do?  Players gave him high fives and the MSU coaching staff praised the unnecessary roughness.

 

You want to compare that to one foot swipe (where the Oregon player clearly was not hit on the skin of his left leg, but holds his knee there) that Michigan players stepped in and pulled him back from?

 

Don't be shocked if/when Gholston is suspended.

urbanachiever

October 15th, 2011 at 9:26 PM ^

Yes, but Pros are also older and more mature.  I think we have to remember that these are kids out there.  Yes, he absolutely needs to be disciplined, and I think he will be.  But college provides a learning experience in more than one way for a lot of these kids, and one of those experiences is how to conduct yourself on the field.  Unfortunately it seems like Dantonio won't be providing this teaching, but that is irrelevant to how this kid's case should be handled

urbanachiever

October 15th, 2011 at 9:41 PM ^

I'm not arguing that there's any place for this, in any level of football.  I'm sorry if I said something that lead you to believe that.  I'm simply saying that I think there's a better way to resolve this than permanently banning Gholston from CFB.  Look, what would banning him teach these kids that watched this that simply suspending him for multiple games not teach them?  I don't think anyone is mistaking this for acceptable behavior.

ats

October 16th, 2011 at 12:03 AM ^

All the more reason to enforce more severe penalties in college.  Things like that have the potential to be mortal.  Off the field, that play could be charged as attempted murder.  That was a concious attempt to injure and any concious attempt to injure should be a full year suspension and mandatory completion of anger management class before being allowed to return to the field.

gobluednicks

October 16th, 2011 at 11:51 AM ^

you're showing yours by your comments urbanachiever.  it can only be classified as a mistake if it happened once.  this thug did four separate things.  how in the hell is that a stupid mistake?  that's intentional and there should be no place for it in a college game.  please quit trying to defend something that's indefensible.  you're just making yourself look stupid in the process.

BiSB

October 16th, 2011 at 8:17 AM ^

But while we caved a couple of trolls, this guy stays (for now).  Obvious Sparty is obvious, but he hasn't broken any rules.  If a Michigan fan said the same stuff, it'd just be a debate.

That said, Spar-Dan, you are wrong about this one.  Twisting a guy's neck when he's buried in a pile is both INCREDIBLY dangerous a general dick move.

M-Wolverine

October 16th, 2011 at 11:24 AM ^

But at this point there are 4 employees of the site, and what, 2 or 3 mods?  How no one can be on the site after a rivalry game (that was at noon) seems like bad planning.  For reasons like this.

Edited- moved to Mod thread instead of this mess.

goblueva

October 16th, 2011 at 10:50 AM ^

Watch the video closely. Matthews kicks his leg out and hits the Oregon player in the inner right thigh. The Orgeon player then pulls his left leg up and grabs his left knee. 

Compraing this to what Gholston did is not even close. Both are acts that do not belong in the game of football but the difference is that Gholston did it with the INTENT on injuring Robinson. Gholston should be suspended at least 1 one game, similar to what the Illionois player got a couple of weeks ago when they played Northwestern. 

maizedandconfused

October 15th, 2011 at 8:28 PM ^

dickhead. 

 

What would you be saying had Denard broken vertebrae? Or legitimately been killed or paralyzed? Twisting someones neck like that can legitimately end their life, especially considering he couldn't roll with the torsion because he was both on the ground and had other players laying over his entire body.

 

This is the definition of an attack against a defenseless opponent. This shold be at least a 2 game suspension.

urbanachiever

October 15th, 2011 at 9:05 PM ^

 

No need for personal insults.

I agree that these were extremely dirty plays.  But permanent expulsion from college football?  I think the kid got a little too jacked up and made some dumb plays, which doesn't warrant that kind of punishment

urbanachiever

October 15th, 2011 at 9:19 PM ^

That's a good question.  I don't know exactly,.  What I do know is that it would have to be a completely obvious attempt at serious injury.  I'm talking like swinging something at a helmet-less player.  It definitely wouldn't be something that could be snuck by the officials - given the right situation, what he did today could've certainly been missed by the cameras and the officials.

I personally don't think Gholston was trying to seriously injure Denard.  It was more like a little "F*** you, get used to this."  I don't know, maybe I'm off base.

justingoblue

October 16th, 2011 at 1:26 AM ^

I don't know what the NCAA standard is for dealing with match penalties in hockey, but in hockey this would have been an obvious match penalty. In USA Hockey that usually carries a thirty day suspension from all team activities (a player on a match suspension technically can't enter the team locker room at any time), but can be extended to a lifetime ban. Something similar would be appropriate here. 3-4 weeks off (not just games) and a hearing before the B1G would be my suggestion.