Gardner better than Pryor? One analyst thinks so

Of all the "analysts"... oh well I guess it's better than nothing. (right?)

It would be hard not to be a better passer than Pryor. He is pretty terrible.

Pryor doesn't seem to have much of a "footbal I.Q." either(to match his lacking I.Q. in general).Not much of a leader or "field general".

It's early to say(obviously) but Gardner would seem to have a leg up in that regard as well.

Despite my intense dislike for tOSU, I do believe they will end the Rose Bowl hex. I think the Bucks will slow Oregon down enough and win by a score of 24-21. Their D will win the game for them.

Also agree with Mattbern. Just about every QB in the Big Ten is a better passer than Pryor. But, yeah, he can run.

DG will be very, very exciting to see once he is ready. It will be interesting to see what the Barwis regimen and, more importantly, Rod Smith tutelage will produce.

About pryor, as someone who was coached by an elite qb coach his mechanics are garbage. He is a bum as a passer. I recorded DG's state championship on tivo, only watched the first half thus far, but I was shocked at the rotation and velocity on his passes. I knew he was a great athlete but I was shocked at his talent as a passer. I love me the force, but DG can truley be something special for us.

just by watching the suckeyes play, i can tell that "the vest" doesnt trust pryor enough to make his own decisions. much like a parent doesnt let a baby pick out it's dinner, however in this case the baby is 20 years old.

I've only seen Gardner in person a few times, but it looks kind of scrawny to me. By scrawny I mean by college football standards, as in he could easily break me in half, but looks small compared to other players. I feel like he really needs a redshirt year to bulk up and then he'll be amazing. This could just be me though. What do those that have seen him play think?

I'm always skittish about sending in true freshman mobile QBs, due to the risk of them getting injured due to lack of size / muscle on the frame.

Pryor's problems stem from the fact that he is a spread option QB playing in a pro-ish system for a coach who does not feel comfortable running a wide open offense and who has a shaky track record when it comes to developing QBs at Ohio State (other than Troy Smith every QB who has played for Tressel at OSU has been mediocre or crappy). Ohio State's offense would be scary if they would fully embrace Pryor's talents. Just look at how easily they scored on us this year when they opened up the offense a little bit, versus how they punted every time they got conservative.

BTW Ohio State will beat Oregon. The Pac 10 has no defenses and their spread will struggle from being off for a month.

For the record, Snyder only asked one question on the call, and it was if Luginbill thought that Devin would have a chance to play next year. It seems weird that I had more questions than a guy that writes for a newspaper.

Luginbill said that Rich Rod hasn't been given enough credit for his recruiting he's done so far. I really really wanted to say, "Yeah, Mark."

Do you guys think he will be moved completely out of the qb position next year?
I feel that he will never have a chance to start/have a significant/winning impact on our team at QB, but rather in the slot or backfield/wingback.
If this is the case, then I guess DG can't redshirt?

play in three state playoff games this year (including the finals at Ford Field). He is as impressive a QB as you will ever see in high school, both from a running and throwing standpoint. In the early rounds, he was a man among boys. I think he can contribute some at QB next year but I also believe he needs to enroll early for his contribution to be of any consequence. If he beats out Denard for second spot QB (and I think he will), I sure hope Denard sticks around and moves to another position. Denard is just too valuable and explosive to not have on this team.

Where's the surprise in that Freep? Our boy Tate is a better QB than TP.

Gardner also played against much higher level competition at the high school level than Pryor. Something that is often forgotten or ignored about Pryor.

Even though Gardner has tons of talent he has to take a redshirt next year. Do you guys really want to see another year of growing pains for a true freshman?

I want one of our three qb's next year to just become a qb ninja and slay souls of other big ten teams.

But in reality I just want to see progression. A red shirt for Devin would be nice, but as talked about numerous times on this site before...we really don't know what he will do when he gets here. If he compares directly to Vince Young, it would be impossible to keep him off the field.

Hurray for QB Depth!

lower PAD LEVEL plus less LIKELY TO MURDER PEOPLE....

Red Shirted because of Major Applewhite. Thats right. Good call! Or maybe it was Chris Simms...I can't rememeber

i doubt dg is polished as a QB. one extra year couldn't hurt, but then again, rich rod needs to make a bowl next year to keep his job, and with that defense...

DG has a pretty fundamentally sound release that can get better. he's definitely a more natural thrower of the ball already than vince young or terrelle pryor have become.

in that regard i think he has the potential to be more daunte culpepper than the aforementioned two. he's 6' 5" and quite athletic but i think he's sorta big and already seems to have filled out much of his frame. on film he's got some shake to him but he's not so much as "quick" as VY or a "glider" like TP. i don't see him running for first downs on a regular basis in college. pocket passer with occasional ability to run + 3/4 release + real qb mechanics = culpepper.

which is why i'm really excited by his focus on mechanics. he really seems to put great spin and drive on the ball.

i think he's due for a redshirt to learn the offense

I saw one game of Gardner's carrer and that was the state championship game and in that game he did not impress me, although I heard from other people that watched some of his other games that he was a great one man show. So i don't know what to expect