Friday Penn State Thread (See Moderator Sticky - Put all PSU information here)
I know people are peeved about this, and I'm sorry. For now, this thread should serve as the home for:
- All "Sandusky/Paterno/McQueary/Curley should be ashamed" opinion pieces
- All predictions
- All conspiracy theories
- All rumors
- All interviews or other public figure reactions
New, actual news (McQueary fired, PSU/Nebraska game cancelled or moved, etc.) can be posted as its own thread.
Also, a reminder that while pedophilia jokes are never really "acceptable," for the foreseeable future they are worth a one- to two-week trip to Deepest, Darkest Bolivian.
November 11th, 2011 at 12:43 PM ^
Sponsors are dropping the Penn State-Nebraska game. How long will this continue? We know that the Big 10 (like all conferences) makes their decisions based on money, and no sponsors mean no money.
Meanwhile, it's a major year for conference reallignment. Schools are moving all over the place. Mizzou is out of the Big 12, while not completely officially in the SEC, and wants to be in the Big 10. Can you really wait if you're the Big 10 to see how much worse it gets for Penn State, and how much that affects the rest of your conference, when you have one of your two next-best options (Notre Dame being the other) still somewhat available and wanting in?
November 11th, 2011 at 12:59 PM ^
While neither the people in charge, nor the students covered themselves in glory with this one, it is far too soon to even be considering that as an option.
November 11th, 2011 at 6:22 PM ^
for this one.
Yes, this is really, really off-the-charts, unimaginable bad.
But Bo used to say, when something is not working, you identify the problem and fix just that.
Clean house at the top and don't throw out the vast majority that had nothing to do with this.
November 11th, 2011 at 12:56 PM ^
Am I the only one having trouble getting into this week's games? I normally live for Saturday in the fall, but this PSU horror story has put a damper on my enthusiasm this week. If there were ever a weekend that I wish Michigan had a home game, this is it, just to get caught up in a four or five hour Big House moment.
November 11th, 2011 at 1:31 PM ^
I am Sandusky'd out at this point but I can't quit. I think my mom was like this for OJ.
I just found a site that says Sandusky is part of the Illuminati NWO pedophila group that is going to take over the world or so says Alex Jones.
Man, Saturday can't come soon enough to wash the stain from the brain. Oh, wait it will be PSU all day/night.
November 11th, 2011 at 1:45 PM ^
tomorrow but just called an Illini friend who was hosting to beg out. I don't really want to personally experience Trash Tornado, Part Deux and because I am just down with "big college sports" right now.
Maybe my 8 year old son and I will do something that he suggests instead (even though he is already True Blue).
November 11th, 2011 at 1:56 PM ^
It's really strange but here we are on Friday and I almost feel ambivalent about the games this weekend...
November 11th, 2011 at 6:28 PM ^
It's one thing when a tradegy happens to occur in the world of sport. You step back, think about what's important in life, and then you go on living that life.
It's different when one of the marquee CFB programs CAUSES the tragedy and sweeps it aside from the university president on down.
November 11th, 2011 at 1:21 PM ^
A good ESPN article regarding former Penn State players' actions regarding this whole scandal.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7220097/penn-state-nitta…
A wide range of reactions.
One former player organizing a large group of former players to stand on the sideline in support of the program, not just Joe Pa.
One former player asking former players to donate money for Sandusky's defense, saying that he will need at least 1 million dollars for his defense, so he made a generous donation of $100.
Another former player upset by the actions of the "rioting" students with strong words for them and with no intention of attending the game.
November 11th, 2011 at 2:23 PM ^
Are you kidding me? Donate money to defend a serial child abuser. Horseshit.
"Sam Stellatella, a three-position player in the 1950s, has donated money to Sandusky's defense and urged other former players to do the same."
And don't give me that, "innocent until proven guilty" crap. Does anyone (and I do mean anyone) believe those 8 kids are lying about being sexually abused by Sandusky?? Let Sandusky go bankrupt trying to defend himself!
Just when I thought it couldn't get worse, Sam Stellatella goes down the abyss.
November 11th, 2011 at 2:38 PM ^
November 11th, 2011 at 3:11 PM ^
Was Sandusky Actively Recruiting for Penn State as Recently as this Year?
At the risk of introducing inappropriate speculation about recruiting into the criminal mess at Penn State, check out this article about a linebacker prospect who is dropping Penn State from his list of schools. He says that Jerry Sandusky was recruiting him personally earlier this year.
http://www.wyff4.com/news/29738465/detail.html
November 11th, 2011 at 5:27 PM ^
Is this where the NCAA gets involved now? If THAT doesn't reek of LOIC, then what does? PSU was letting a child molester into the homes of recruits. *gag*
November 11th, 2011 at 3:58 PM ^
Is it just me (just a lowly Engineer), but didn't the PSU board literally HAVE to fire JoePa?
Lawsuits are sure to come and the fact that Joe P knew about Sandusky AND had more power than anyone to stop him - or at MINIMUM keep him out of the PSU football facilities - made him a huge legal liability for the school. (of course the board cannot say that..for the same reasons)
As far as I am concerned this is the end of the story on the firing -- It is not that the board wanted to fire JoePa, it is that they HAD to.
Am I wrong here?
November 11th, 2011 at 6:39 PM ^
nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but I think PSU will be found liable for millions.
It seems to me that the criminal trial has to go first. The accused do have rights to due process.
But once Sandusky is found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt (or in his case, beyond a shadow of a doubt), then it seems to me that the lawsuits of deep-pockets PSU will be a slam dunk.
November 11th, 2011 at 3:59 PM ^
.........going over this in my mind, regarding MM, and in my opinion, he was put in an incredibly difficult situation, especially as a person who was only 28 at the time, and had no real world experience beyond college. Some of you may disagree, but my points are thus:
-First, he's 28. While to college kids, or those just out of college, that seems old, it is still relatively young. Heck, even people in their 50's and later, who may otherwise be upstanding, solid people, make egregious errors in judgment at times.
-Second, he witnessed something that would be completely shocking to 99.99% of people anywhere, and being committed by someone he undoubtedly looked up to. I challenge anyone to place themselves in that situation and believe they would have good clarity in their thought processes, enough to allow them to not only decide then and there to physically stop what was happening, but also to go not only to JoePa, but also the police.
-Third, he had to have thoughts in his head not only of the child, but also his own future. I know, it seems, on the outside, to be completely selfish on his part if this is the case, which I believe it was. However, remember that he was just 28 and had most of his life ahead of him. The thoughts of going up against such a highly regarded person as Sandusky(at the time anyway) had to be daunting, knowing that if he did go to someone outside of PSU, and things played out wrong, he very well could have never seen the sidelines as a coach, ever.
I'm not sure if I made my points well enough, probably not for most of the "arm-chair" qb's out there. My first thought, on hearing about his involvement, was that I would have stepped in right then and there and done something other than what he did. There is, however, a very good chance that at that age, I would have done the same thing as he did, just as many others would have. It is the hindsight on the incident, so many years later, that has most of us telling ourselves we would have acted differently to the situation than he did. I'd bet money that if he, himself, were on the outside looking in on the details of it, that he would be saying what others say about what they would have done.
MM is just another unfortunate, and unlucky, soul, who most likely is a good person, who got caught up in the whole affair, simply because one man had deviant, and evil, desires that victimized young boys. While MM should be ousted from the PSU program, I certainly do not wish any ill to happen to him. I don't excuse his actions, but I don't think he deserves the hate that others have heaped on him.
November 11th, 2011 at 6:47 PM ^
Ironically, if McQueary had just kept his mouth shut, no one would be talking about him right now.
It seems to me that by firing the low man on the totem pole for speaking out but not following up, you're just send the message to other would-be whistleblowers to keep their mouths closed.
Now, JoePa, as the embodiment of the football program, has to be held to a higher standard. It's HIS PROGRAM, and he chose to keep Sandusky associated with it as well as sending his "concern" to where it would be swept under the rug.
November 11th, 2011 at 4:18 PM ^
Been a cop 27 years. I can tell you that Pedophiles are cowards when it comes to being arrested and as such not even Bobby Gorn could do what needs to be done. Justice will occur shortly after he lands in some lovely State Penitentiary and meets some well hung cell mate intent on hurting him soooooo bad. FWIW, perps hate child molesters as much as the rest of society does. He is going to be so pretty!!!!!!!!!!
November 11th, 2011 at 4:53 PM ^
Apologies if this has been posted already
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/16076958/franco-harris-d…
Franco Harris defends Joe Paterno's character... Demonstrates Cognitive Dissonance effectively.
Whatever happened to people thinking before they speak?
November 11th, 2011 at 6:50 PM ^
He's also in protective custody. So you know, well done everyone.
Humanity is failing pretty miserably here.
November 11th, 2011 at 6:38 PM ^
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7221182/penn-state-nitta…
Tom Osborne and Nebraska, rightfully, have to be, very very nervous about Saturday.
November 11th, 2011 at 8:39 PM ^
If the weather is not bad I might hop on my motorcycle and ride out with my video camera. It is going to be a zoo out there with the Pro/Anti Joe factions, the church crazies, hundreds of adults that just found out Santa isn't real, and lots of booze.
I can only hope that Nebraska blows them out and by the end of the 1st qtr the game is much in hand so I could come home in time for the Michigan game.
November 11th, 2011 at 11:32 PM ^
My God, my God, please do not let these latest Sandusky rumors be true. Pimping kids would be too much. The idea of a huge institution being used as a front for organized child abuse is so horrific It makes me not want to trust anyone.