Seriously. Screw him. He's talking about a 17 year old kid.
landing spot. will be interesting to see how he does.
Seriously. Screw him. He's talking about a 17 year old kid.
This is his video from his youtube page.
BTW, comments are enabled if you feel like doing a Rosenburg book review type message.
They're grilling him about a kid who made a mistake when he was 16, but nothing about Michigan State letting an actual convicted felon (Winston) back on their team?
F*** You Drew Sharp you should not judge a 16 year old.
I like the part where Sharp explains how big time football recruits are "choking on their own egos."
Pot, meet kettle.
My favorite part was when he told fans to pull their heads out of their back pockets, or whatever.
So many pot-meet-kettle moments in such a short podcast.
I immediately thought..."nothing new here"
Can't even pronounce "Feagin".
I'm not even going to bother listening. Why waste brain cells on that worthless piece of shit?
He compared Demar to OJ. As much as I dislike OSU and their players, I would never wish anything bad happen to them (career ending injuries and what not). I can't say I feel the same way towards Sharp.
....Makes me want to crush skulls.
tune in to WTKA tomorrow to hear me tear him a new asshole. seriously. I transcribed the motherfucker.
That was terrible and I want to see you [Brian] destroy him. So, do you know what time you'll be on?
What time are you going to be on WTKA? I very much want to hear this.
The podcast is always up by mid-afternoon.
9 am EST
I am now setting my alarm.
Drew told me that I shouldn't get my news from "little bloggers." I'm gonna start reading news stories by guys who hate their readers
I know that Tim was absolutely foaming at the mouth furious earlier.
Any way you can embed it after the fact, so those that can't listen in the late afternoon can catch it later?
I eagerly anticipate this pantsing.
WTKA puts everything up as Podcasts on their website. Sometimes it's the only way I get through the work day.
I finagled a way to hear the podcast. That was some weapons-grade fisking, right there.
This guy is an absolute clown. The kid got acquitted. This usually means there is little to no evidence he committed the crime. He is a 16 year old. So, what you are saying Drew, is that a 16 year old kid making a mistake shouldn't get a chance to get a college education. Shit, if that was the case, I'd not have made it to AA.
Serious clown. Doesn't deserve to speak a word of any substance on Demar. While he may be a risk, he deserves a chance.
Hypothetically if Dorsey signed with state instead, would sharp be saying anything like this?
as a reporter, they have to ask RR that question or they're doing a shitty job. They have to when we had a Feagin dismissed for drug-related charges and you're doing a story about a stud athlete with a potentially checkered past.
That being said, one of the big issues with this is that he keeps saying he was acquitted. From what I've been reading, he was not acquitted; the charges were dropped.
A good reporter would ask that question to RR, but a good reporter would also find out what the hell the charges were for themselves before questioning the coach about it.
The problem is with him going on a rant about how if this kid wasn't good at football he wouldn't have been acquitted of this crime that he's somehow almost certainly guilty of.
Armed robbery went to trial and Dorsey was acquitted.
Burglary of a vacant residence was dismissed.
The point is Sharp keeps trying to find his inner-Woodward and Bernstein. The only problem is well, you know they did their homework. Also, I kind of agree with the sentiment that the press conference wasn't the time for those questions.
Let's not name call. Kiss your mother with that mouth?
Oh no they are perfectly acceptable targets, I thought PDX was name calling a fellow poster. My bad man.
Is it too much to pull a Tonya Harding on Sharp and Birkett?
Quite frankly I don't give a crap what you've "been reading", what you've "been reading" is wrong. Check the damn court records for Broward County. They're easily available online. Florida has some of the best public records laws in the country. USE THE TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO YOU AND STOP RELYING ON OTHER PEOPLE'S SHITTY WORK.
That's the cure to a lot of this
What a C-Sucker. The negativity and his rant is unbelievable. Where the f did that non-sense even come from?
The whole "doesn't know who his daughter is dating?" meme was way over the top. In addition, way to condemn the whole Florida legal system as well as Rodriguez who "didn't give a true answer."
How are these not libelous statements that he is not being sued or fired for (like last time.)
Also, FYI Drew, those guys who pay attention to signing day (and supposedly have children who can't keep a thought for more than 5 seconds...?) are the ones reading your shit and paying your bills.
He does realize he's reporting on signing day right? "OMW Signing Day sucks! Listen to me talk about signing day on signing day! OMW this sucks so bad! I hate this!"
Google trends says differently.
I'd be pretty confident that he is a public figure, but I'm not so sure it matters if he is or not based on what Sharp actually said.
he would have to prove that Sharp made a knowledgeably false and damaging remark. Sharp spoke to the idea of repeat offense, not to the explicit morality of the individual. While he may have remarked he is incredulous as to the legitimacy of a 'fair trial' for a prep athlete, this is not court-worthy material. He would have had to say explicitly graphic accusations for this to be a 'credible lawsuit.'
Legal knowledge ftw
and why the hell did you claim you bet he would have a credible filing? law student? lawyer? etc?
"he would have to prove that Sharp made a knowledgeably false and damaging remark."
Why does almost everyone almost always forget that the standard for actual malice is knowingly false (as you said) OR made with reckless disregard for the truth?
Props to UMich student 2012, letter writer number 1. Calling it like he sees it.
From listening to that I gather that Drew Sharp loves to hear Drew Sharp talk. Drew Sharp.
...twice like that, for some reason I hear "Matt Damon".
I just finished listening to this, and I'm wondering what they said afterward the commercial. Where does Drew "draw the line"? Did anybody hear what he said after that? It was obviously getting heated and he might've said even more completely baseless and stupid things.
I checked WDFN's website and this is where the podcast stops, there's no other section after this one. Maybe it's somewhere else?
That was me calling- he says that if Michigan wants to adhere to a higher standard, it shouldn't take a chance on kids like Dorsey. Leaving alone the big freaking difference between acquitted and convicted, for starters. Hate that idiot.
I like how Drew Sharp tells us not to pass judgement on him and the media. Yet he sits there and passes judgement on a 18 yr. old kid.
Guys, I don't understand what the big deal is here...everybody murders people, everybody steals, everybody get acquitted of felonies...case closed
Great sound byte prefacing his quote from a U-M student. "I'm not gonna use the young man's name. We try to protect the innocent here." How'd that principle hold up with the two freshman football players your organization disingenuously interviewed last year regarding practice hours?
Protecting a 2012 future grad, who is most likely 19-20, but shitting directly into the face of a 17 year old.
Journalistic integrity at its finest.
Or, uh, to the player found not guilty?
he just compared demar to OJ. low blow
Holy shit, what an ass. It's like he's intentionally taken an indefensible position and is trying to see if he can compensate for it by yelling and sounding incredulous. How does a douche like this get entitled to a media outlet?
Dorsey was tried as an adult by a jury for armed robbery (felony) and found not guilty. That does not happen routinely.
Prosecutors dismissed the charge of burglary of a vacant residence. That is a felony and outright dismissal won't happen often either -- they'll get you to plead down, at least. If they have any evidence whatsoever of guilt.
He makes the claim that people are biased in favor of 16 year old football players when it comes to felony armed robbery, when in fact the only bias regarding football players is his own: Dorsey is a UM commit and was accused of a crime, therefore he is guilty, because it suits his sensationalistic desires. Where is Sharp's evidence, how does he know better than the jury?
The most ridiculous part of his rant is the assertion that black teenagers from rough neighborhoods are getting special treatment in the criminal justice system because they are good at football.
What the fuck planet is this guy living on?? Does his think judges are letting armed robbery slide because a kid has an offer to play Safety at UF? Yes, NFL players get special treatment - because they are RICH and FAMOUS. Demar Dorsey is neither. The DA is not gonna do him any favors because he is ranked #12 on ESPN's top 150.
What a fucking embarrassment. The UM student is right - this IS why regional newspapers are dying.
Just google some of the other stuff he's said on the subject of athletes and entitlements. Drew Sharp + Michael Vick is a good place to start.
"I have very little respect for a lot of fans out there. Because you know what: you guys do not want to hear what you need to hear. . . We feel that it's incumbant upon us to tell you what you need to know."
God, if a feeling has ever been more perfectly mutual.
guys no need to panic... i sent him a hateful email
Was playing poker tonight with a couple MSU grads when one of them started mouthing off about Dorsey being a criminal and RichRod needing to troll the ghetto for criminals in order to win games. Over the table I went. Sonofabitch - no one questions the integrity of Mich, least of all some MSU d-bag.
God that pisses me off. The assumption that he's only stayed away from trouble because he's a football player is totally ridiculous. How about he knew he was a football player and didn't want to piss his life away doing stupid stuff: football was his way out.
Why did I listen to that. I knew it would piss me off. But it pissed me off more than I expected.
One thing that stood out to me... he says that it's his job to present facts so fans can make up their minds. He then proceeds to make HUGE assumptions and generalizations that are based on ZERO facts and concludes that Mr. Dorsey is, likely, a criminal. This, to me, is extremely slanderous and downright reckless. Mr. Sharp needs a few days off from work for this, in my opinion.
The only point he made that I thought was valid was about fans needing to take a more objective stance when evaluating the personal conduct of players. I only wish he would follow his own advice.
Yeah, I agree. I'm actually wondering right about now whether RR might have been baiting him today into something that can get Sharp into some real big trouble since it's obvious that Sharp has no ability to control himself. I'm well aware that generally the media has wide leeway regarding public persons, but man did that seem malicious to me (to both RR and Demar). I can't wait to see what he prints in the newspaper tomorrow.
I personally loved his "we try to protect the innocent" comment. That was irony at its best.
Another great one was his comment about the "depth" that you can get from reading the newspaper and how much more "depth" there is to a newspaper over a blog. Are you serious? Seriously?! What a joke.
... also, I +1'd you; I believe you are the first person on MGoBlog to properly use the word irony.
This guys has got some problems. I find it especially hard to believe that a guy can have opinions like that on people for simply being put on trial in a city like Detroit.
At first I thought this was going to be a "Oh Drew, we're with you" bit form the radio. When it got to the end I realized the hosts think he's a fruitcake too (Love the sudden cut while he's going ballistic because people are calling him out on his lack of professionalism). I LOVED it when he tried to claim objectivity in the face of grilling a kid over being AQUITTED.
You stay classy Sharp. We'll make sure admissions gets the memo right away that only Princeton material gets into our university. If only Michigan could live up to the diversified, wide-open, accepting reputation of THAT school. No more Detroit applicants, that's for sure! Those guys will rip the place apart. And shoot, Muskegon is suppose to be a pretty bad place too. I'll make sure I see my advisor about a transfer to an SEC school tomorrow.
He called you a "little" blogger, Brian.
All you MGoLearned still actually read the Freep?
AND you still read Drew Sharp? Knowing it's going to piss you off before you do?
Freep-free since 9/1 here. Been a hard road (like giving up Coke for Pepsi after drinking it for 20 years), and I'm probably missing out on some decent newsbits, but I just can't justify giving them my business.
And quite honestly, it's nice not being tempted to read Sharp's drivel.
...would you give up Coke for Pepsi?
"Was that sub 4.4 time him [Dorsey] running from police??"
Who could get away with saying this?
That is the first time I have ever listened to Drew Sharp. And I never read him (not out of principle and not just him in particular; I listen to zero sports radio, and I read zero old-fashioned sports columnists with any regularity). Anyhow, I had always sort of assumed that the people 'round these parts' hatred for the guy was partially justified, but likely somewhat of an overreaction. I was wrong about that last part. That clip is one of the most appallingly irresponsible pieces of "journalism" I have ever heard/read/watched/anything else. I mean, wow. That was not just bad, that was offensive on so many levels (lots of people think OJ did it and he was acquitted, so its still fair to assume anyone who has been acquitted probably did something bad?! And what the fuck was he talking about 'second chances'?! The kid hasn't used up his first).
Anyways, I apologize for secretly assuming that many of you were overreacting in the past. My bad. I was wrong.
What pisses me off the most is that he sells short, not only Dorsey, but all 16 and 17 year olds. He overgeneralizes by saying that they can't make a decision and are always changing their mind. I know people on this blog say i too. But seriously, can people just stop ripping on the maturity of teenagers?
Most teenagers would have the maturity and judgment to not publicly presume guilt with regards to a kid they know nothing about who was found innocent.
Sharp flips out at the end and almost goes Valenti. Pretty hilarious.
• Exposes a person to hatred, shame, disgrace, contempt or ridicule.
• Injures a person’s reputation or causes the person to be shunned or avoided.
• Injures the person in his or her occupation.
Examples might include accusing someone of having committed a heinous crime, or of having a disease that might cause them to be shunned.
Two other important points:
• Libel is by definition false. Anything that is provably true cannot be libelous.
• “Published” in this context simply means that the libelous statement is communicated to someone other than the person being libeled. That can mean anything from an article that's photocopied and distributed to just a few people to a story that appears in a newspaper with millions of subscribers.
There's more to it than what you posted. About.com is not the best source for legal information...
“Libel is written or visual defamation; slander is oral or aural defamation.”
“The distinction itself between libel and slander is not free from difficulty and uncertainty. As it took form in the seventeenth century, it was one between written and oral words. But later on libel was extended to include pictures, signs, statues, motion pictures, and even conduct carrying a defamatory imputation, such as hanging the plaintiff in effigy, erecting a gallows before his door, dishonoring his valid check drawn upon the defendant's bank, or even ... following him over a considerable period in a conspicuous manner. From this it has been concluded that libel is that which is communicated by the sense of sight, or perhaps also by touch or smell, while slander is that which is conveyed by the sense of hearing.”
EDIT: the definition is actually about three times longer, but you get the idea
And your point is what, exactly?
That is not what the interwebs are for
I generally understand that, but what I was getting at is that what he posted was inaccurate. The article is more accurate, but the OP forgot something important (and so did you).
Just making conversation.
Yeah, sorry, didn't mean to bust your balls about it. That wasn't my intention.
I dont know how he lives with himself knowing that Dorsey will undoubtedly listen to that. Saying the things he does is so hurtful on a personal level. These are college (not yet even) athletes!
This is my biggest issue with Drew Sharp and most of the "old media". They believe that they are more important than us lowly dolts who don't have a journalism degree. I can't stand how they demand answers from people like they are the courts or something. And I guess we are not smart enough to find out what we need to know. Thank God the Drew Sharps of the world are out there looking out for us.
what an ass I just listened to. I mean, I knew Sharp was negative about everything Detroit sports, but damn.
His absolutely certainty that he's in the right is probably the most infuriating aspect of the whole thing. The way he shrugs off the posibility that any athlete could ever be wrongfully accused, or that a 16 year-old could do something stupid and learn from his mistake is maddening.
And the way he dismissed the entirely calm and reasonable caller! Saying "well, you're blind to the situation because you only see what you want to see" (!!!!!). His self-rightousness...mmmm... I am so mad right now, I can barely type this out. The more I think about it the more I want to scream or possibly punch him the face. I need to sleep.
Somebody should look up his juvenile record...
I was angry listening to that. Then I saw a picture of Drew Sharp, realized his entire agenda and frame of thought and now, honestly, I feel sorry for him. When the Freep goes bottom up, no Chicago or GR paper is going to waste their time with a guy that will alienate 2/3 of his listeners with idiotic and blatantly false claims.
Toledo law school for you, Drew.
Pure comedy gold:
"We try to protect the innocent around here, somewhat." ...with regard to the UM student who wrote to Drew
"They [fans] cannot look at things objectively."
I actually listened to this... unbelievable.
I didn't know that Rich Rod's career depended on Dorsey panning out. Gosh, no wonder Sharp is so fired up about it. He so badly wants Rich Rod to succeed that he doesn't think he should risk his career on a kid with a troubled past and a bright future.
I'd like to know where Sharp thinks Dorsey SHOULD be playing football if he doesn't think that Rich Rod should have taken him. Does he truly believe that kid's with a criminal history should not be given scholarships.
At least the co-host on there was doing a decent job of pointing out how stupid Sharp's argument was.
Also, to the original poster... how do YOU know that Drew Sharp can suck a big one?
It's not his first time trying to take the moral high road with athletes. He went after Michael Vick as well. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/sharp/2009-05-19-nfl-michael-vi...
The difference? Michael Vick was GUILTY.
And here's another spot from a CNN interview:
"SHARP: That's the way it should have been played.
Again, I'm not a second chance kind of guy when it involves these spoiled, pampered athletes who have had their fans, family and followers excusing their contemptible behavior since they became an athletic prodigy at 13. And this is another example of this.
I would like these same people, Reverend Jackson and these others who have been preaching about second chances, I would like to see them hold that same standard to the next 29-year-old black man who is released from federal jail after serving two years who cannot run a 40-yard dash in 4.3 or sell a 100-yard (ph) jersey. That's not going to happen. "
This dude has some SERIOUS envy issues. Just a few minutes on google makes it so much clearer what this guy is up to and what his purpose is regarding Michigan football. He sees every star player as someone who has been whiney, spoiled, and pampered since childhood and who have been given every chance that he never got. He has a serious case of athlete envy, probably because he, himself, was never any good at anything as a kid, so this is his self esteem boost: to try to tear down athletes. What an absolute loser. I actually went from being mad at what he said to really feeling sorry for the guy. That's just sad.
"Again, I'm not a second chance kind of guy when it involves these spoiled, pampered athletes who have had their fans, family and followers excusing their contemptible behavior since they became an athletic prodigy at 13. And this is another example of this."
If this were even close to true in all cases, Sharp should be parked outside of Dantonio's office throwing a fit.
I have hated and haven't listened/read anything Drew Sharp in years. So I won't listen to this either just to remind myself why I hate him. He is just a negative ass! I have been boycotting him since he went on his rant about how Steve Yzerman was overrated and then laughed and at an older female fan that was crying because she was so upset. The guy is a freakin cockstain. I have thought several times about writing 1130 and letting them know that whenever he is on the radio I turn the dial. This guy seriously needs to be jobless, or if he hates the sports here so much then just LEAVE!
I know you hate Sharp, but this is denigrating a person's character. Someone who Sharp has never met. Someone who he is purely speculating is guilty, despite the fact that a jury thought otherwise. If I were Demar Dorsey I would be talking to a lawyer about suing Sharp for libel (slander?)
Does this rant remind anybody of Walter in the Big Lewbowski when he pulls out the gun in the bowling alley claiming he was the only sane person there? Hmm...
Sharp easily gets my vote over John Edward for "Biggest Douche in the Universe"
Really? This guy is a journalist? Were admissions standards really that much lower when he got in? He completely distrusts the US legal system.
"We don't know that he wasn't committing crimes. All athletes get off." By that brilliant logic, Michigan should never recruit any high-profile athlete, because chances are they're committing crimes even if they haven't been committed. Thanks Mr Sharp.
His comments are not anti-Michigan. They're anti-American. Our president smoked weed when he was a teenager. Guess he didn't deserve a second chance. You are innocent until proven guilty. If you don't like that Mr. Sharp why don't you get the hell out and go to North Korea
look at how much press and notoriety he is getting, not to mention hits for the freep. This post alone has >100 comments and is one of the most popular on NSD.
He's a businessman and is doing what he should, generating revenue for his company.
If you disagree, just ignore him and he will go away!
Sharp needs to be tea bagged...
I called in and challenged his take, but they cut me off going to a break. What an insufferable scold.
Drew Sharp is an idiot and I hope the Freep folds.
They have spent the last hour ripping RR and Michigan. I'll bet when Michigan is back on top, you won't hear anything from them or Sharp. Being fair doesn't sell papers or generate ratings.