Jon Benke

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1 year 3 weeks ago	CRAIG ROH	What, no love for Craig Roh ?
1 year 6 weeks ago	this is the best post	I agree with all of this, well said. They didn't count, but hey did exist .. as do the memories.
1 year 6 weeks ago	good points	All we can do is assume, but I didn't see well paid kids when I saw footage on the documentary, and I saw the cars .. didn't see one NEW car or anything, and I don't know how you get - NEVER FORGET - and, because I never want to see a second decade of darkeness.  This implies that I am looking forward to this, which is a stupid assumption.  You can remember the players, and what they did for the game ... and not go through it all again, thank you very much.  Who wants that, huh? GO BLUE!
1 year 6 weeks ago	I agree with the banners	The Final Four runs must be erased, unfortunately. But that doesn't mean we need to forget the players.
1 year 6 weeks ago	pocket money lol	That goes on everywhere, always has .. if you don't think that there are people who give a little to these kids, you're crazy.  Now, giving a duffle-bag full of 100,000 dollars like you hear some kids get, back then and now, that's different ..... and Jalen didn't receive that.  He was given money so he could eat, go to a movie, etc ... not so he could buy a car, or anything like that.  I am and will always be a defender of The Fab Five, they were so much of the kind of basketball player I ended up being...  I am righty, but out of desire of wanting to be exactly like Jalen Rose, I shaved my head, I wore black shoes and black socks......and shot and played basketball with my left hand.  This was far from what went on at UNLV, for example, and they weren't paid like the Fab Five 2 was - not even close.  I won't ever forget those guys.
1 year 6 weeks ago	who in the FAB FIVE...	...was paid to pick Michigan ? I know what Chris Webber did was wrong, but that was 20% of the greatness, and to blame Jalen, Juwan, Jimmy, and Ray for what happened before the draft ... lets be serious here, the players that came after the Fab Five were the guys who were paid for their committment.  Remember that.
1 year 6 weeks ago	THE FAB FIVE	Was never really the problem!!! Yea, we all know about Chris Webber, but the facts show how that went, and the real problem was with the so called FAB FIVE 2, full of busts and well paid college kids .................... lol. Ugh, well paid and with nice vehicles.   We should all remember the Fab Five, never forget!!
1 year 6 weeks ago	the cult of Team134	What do you mean, Mathis has drank the Kool-aid :)
1 year 6 weeks ago	it has changed	It use to be, if you were a top guy from Ohio ... you were offered and went to Ohio State.  Period.  That's basically how it was, while he was there ... and yea, he would lose out on a guy here and there, but for the most part, they got who they wanted from Ohio.  Now, it seems, Urban offers and goes all out nationally, while the top guys from Ohio are told nay or yay, and for some reason, Urban has been telling a bunch of top Ohio kids nay in 2013; McCray, Butt, Taco, etc ... and it could easily come back to bite him in the ass.  It should.
1 year 6 weeks ago	I love that we can add a guy	...and be all - cool, just another top tier 4* recruit. I have had Ben Gedeon a commit to MI for awhile!!   7/8 spots left, and I am guessing it's all 4*+ commits from here on out.  I can't wait to see what we get via The Spring Game.
1 year 6 weeks ago	Allen Trieu says...	On his twitter, after Mathis and Dawson went at it for the second time .. one of the other players said "it doesn't matter you're gonna end up on the same team anyway" - GO BLUE!
1 year 7 weeks ago	I thought so lol	Once you said Sullinger=SUPERSTAR, I should've known:)
1 year 7 weeks ago	is this a joke?	My sarcasm gun is pretty low on all this, so forgive me if this was a joke ... if it's not, well, you're seriously confused.  Sullinger and Burke aren't future All-Stars let alone SUPERSTARS, so I can't see a GM wanting to muck up their entire draft to get these two together.  I still think Burke goes undrafted and Sullinger will be a huge bust.  Both should have returned, but getting bad information is nothing new for kids thinking about entering the NBA draft.  Heck, I could "ENTER" the NBA draft, doesn't mean I'll get drafted.
1 year 7 weeks ago	but you need better	Yea, but you need better than a 3 star underweight prospect, which these guys aren't recruiting ... they're recruiting top guys at positions of great need.  That's very impressive.
1 year 7 weeks ago	that, or we get worst case	I think he goes undrafted.
1 year 7 weeks ago	people have the right to be upset	The kid is getting bad information, if Brian's source of "someone" telling him he's a 20-35 pick, which is late first, early second.  That's not going to happen, period.  He'll go undrafted, which sucks for only one person; Trey Burke.  Him not getting drafted doesn't effect any of the idiots who are direct tweeting him, being jerks about it ... so to me, it's okay to be upset with the decision, especially if you think it's not the best decision for the kid - WHICH I DON'T.  The one-n-done rule is a stupid rule, not because of the Kobe and LeBron, but because of guys like Trey Burke, who get very BAD INFORMATION ...... and this wouldn't be the first time a kid was told numbers like this and went undrafted.  There are only so many spots, and there is only two rounds, one of which comes with a guaranteed contract.  Heck, I think Sullinger should have returned, but, you can't argue with someone who's a lock - A LOCK - to be a lottery pick, and if Trey was, I'd be typing away on how it'd be best for him to move on, period. He's not, so I am not.
1 year 7 weeks ago	well played, mauer	Well played...
1 year 8 weeks ago	I'll be shocked	if he's there in four years.
1 year 8 weeks ago	Tim Tebow	Having him helped, and without him, he looked lost.  He had a slew of top of the line assistants, most of which aren't with him now ... so I'll give you that he had a great record, especially in the SEC, but that doesn't mean he's 100% going to have the same success going forward.  Yes, this is a Michigan message board, and last time I checked, the Urban/Tebow combo only lost one BOWL GAME together, right?  Oh, and the talent he had in Florida was way more to his schemes than what he'll find in Ohio, which also will help Michigan in recruiting.  And like RR found, it's not going to be as easy to get those 5* STUDS to leave the south ...... it never is.  That is, unless you're going to let a freakish athlete most are recruiting as a DB, play QB, but how many of those are out there, ya know?  My two cents.
1 year 8 weeks ago	his final season	He was 8-5 in his final season at Florida. I should have just said his final season, I thought he had two down years before leaving, but Tim Tebow leaving can do that to anyone.  He didn't look good.
1 year 8 weeks ago	I wasn't impressed	His final two years in Florida. I doubt he'll fail, but I doubt he owns the Big Ten.
1 year 8 weeks ago	USC also offered	They also offered Erik Magnuson. So this wouldn't be the first time USC was too late to the party.
1 year 8 weeks ago	everyone has insider info	TomVH told me it was Dawson, bot Boesch. Yeah, USC will most likely offer all the top Illinois kids.   Can you blame them?
1 year 8 weeks ago	David Dawson	Dawson was offered by USC.
1 year 8 weeks ago	it started before that	But I see your point. No point in adding to it, I agree. Sorry about that.
1 year 8 weeks ago	Isaac is fresh off his visit	I am sure he'll be off his USC high here soon. I think Poggi and Levenberry are more than 50/50 Michigan, and their respected other suitors - FSU and Alabama.  I don't know to what standard FSU and Alabama hold each of these guys, but Michigan seems to have them atop of their lists.  The spring game, the visits that come with it, could easily become the most important recruiting days of 2013.  Logan Tuley-Tilman, who was just offered by USC, at one time said he was going to ride this thing out.  He's been BLUE for a few weeks now, things change.  Lets hope things go our way.
1 year 8 weeks ago	all the nonsense down voting	It's pretty weak.  Almost every post I have made today has been labeled flaimbait, off topic, etc .. it's really annoying, and I have seen it done to others as well, who are just trying to have a civil conversation, add information that fits the thread in queston.  It's hard to read the content when so much is taken out via misguided and mislabeled "moderation" is all, so I thought I'd bring it up.  Anyway, that's all, back to the topic at hand, which I believe are recruiting notes. GO BLUE!!
1 year 8 weeks ago	Logan Tulley-Tillman	He just got offered by USC.
1 year 8 weeks ago	who is down voting everything?	Good question, Ball Hawk.   EDIT: Ace said he'd have the list up that week. He said EJ Levenberry should be there, so that's one.
1 year 8 weeks ago	I doubt we turn Isaac away	Same goes with Levenberry. I don't think we'll take a 3rd LB unless it's Levenberry, and I doubt we take a 3rd RB unless it's Isaac.  I fully expect us to take both, if they want to commit.  My real question here is, if Levenberry commits before Gedeon, do we take Gedeon as our 3rd LB?  I would, though I'd love to here the opinions of others.  It's a nice problem to have. EDIT: can the MODs please stop this nonsense?

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