Dodd: B1G And SEC Expected To Flex For More Power In CFP Meeting Tomorrow
Per Dennis Dodd at CBS Sports:
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/heres-what-big-ten-sec-could-demand-as-college-football-playoff-holds-critical-meeting-in-texas/
Key Points:
Multiple Guaranteed Playoff Bids & Structure
"Up for discussion will be the overall number of playoff teams with Big Ten commissioner Tony Petitti favoring 16 instead of 12, according to multiple reports. No matter the bracket size, Wednesday looms as the start of a showdown with the Big Ten and SEC perhaps ready to flex their might.
Three sources told CBS Sports this week that they "wouldn't be surprised" if the two conferences demand/propose to receive multiple guaranteed playoff bids annually."
Governance And Weighted Voting
"Beginning in 2026, it's almost certain there will be a weighted voting structure. And it's almost certain that the Big Ten and SEC will seek weighted voting that exceeds even that wielded by Power Four conference peers, the ACC and Big 12."
Tiered Revenue Distribution
The Power Five conferences currently receive approximately $80 million each from the CFP simply for being the Power Five. That distribution has been adjusted going forward with each Power Five school receiving approximately $5 million each. That weighs the distributions based on conference size, ensuring universities receive appropriately even pieces of the pie.
The Big Ten and SEC are unlikely to be amenable to that structure remaining in place. Don't be surprised if those conferences are at the forefront of seeking a multi-tiered revenue distribution within the playoff system. That could be structured as such:
- Top tier: Big Ten, SEC
- Second tier: ACC, Big 12
- Third tier: Mountain West, American
- Fourth tier: Conference USA, MAC, Sun Belt
February 20th, 2024 at 8:53 PM ^
Saw people tweeting about how Notre Dame has to win 4 games no matter what to win a Championship (no bye). That made me happy. But people mentioned they also have no conference championship to win, so their path is easier, and it cancels out. Regardless, their path is harder than any time in the past, so that's fun.
February 20th, 2024 at 9:33 PM ^
Depositing the clickable link here:
After reading Dennis Dodd's story, it seems pretty apparent he's throwing a lot of stuff at the wall in the hopes that some of it sticks. "Multiple sources" without naming any of them, SEC and B1G "could demand", "what the B1G and SEC may be seeking ", etc., etc--- a lot of speculation and relatively little else.
February 21st, 2024 at 6:57 AM ^
Which describes almost every Dennis Dodd article.
February 20th, 2024 at 9:37 PM ^
To hell with Notre Dame.
February 21st, 2024 at 1:21 PM ^
Pandering.
But I'll allow it.
And agree with it. Vociferously
February 21st, 2024 at 11:41 PM ^
Say what you want about Michigan fans being arrogant but at least we don't pull that religious moral high ground shit.
February 21st, 2024 at 2:11 PM ^
I second this - ND can eat shit. I probably hate those bastards more than any other school or fanbase just because they have their noses up in the air and feel they're above everyone else. Don't even let them in the Playoffs if they don't want to join a conference.
February 21st, 2024 at 4:40 PM ^
They say the exact same thing about our fan base.
The biggest difference I see between the 2 programs...Michigan is better at football
February 20th, 2024 at 9:37 PM ^
They know how to change that and refuse...ef'm.
Go Blue!
February 20th, 2024 at 9:45 PM ^
Sorry to threadjack but anyone know why Shae Patterson got banned?
February 20th, 2024 at 9:55 PM ^
Message board onanism.
February 20th, 2024 at 11:05 PM ^
Folks, don't spill your seed upon the ground or the board.
February 20th, 2024 at 11:02 PM ^
Mineral King is not Shea Patterson.
February 20th, 2024 at 11:31 PM ^
I thought that was obvious to everyone.
February 21st, 2024 at 12:24 AM ^
If it means that the running joke of Mineral King=Shea Patterson dies forever, I'm entirely on board with this development.
February 21st, 2024 at 5:30 AM ^
Mineral King likes to play golf instead of practicing football
February 21st, 2024 at 8:59 AM ^
Funny thing, that kid. When I mentioned it to him a month or two ago, that he had been quasi-masquerading as shea Patterson he completely denied that he had ever done that. Meanwhile, there’s 100 of us that remember it.
February 21st, 2024 at 11:17 AM ^
Add me to the list who remembers. I thought it was complete bullshit then (although kinda funny) and it's complete bullshit now.
February 21st, 2024 at 9:43 PM ^
I also remember this. It's not just your imagination.
February 21st, 2024 at 7:35 AM ^
Couldn't beat OSU.
February 21st, 2024 at 12:33 AM ^
They haven't won a natty since 1988.
They aren't going to win one again. Too snooty and painted themselves into a corner.
February 21st, 2024 at 6:03 AM ^
Let's see 1988... The year I got married. I was 22. But soon to be 23. So it was cool. If you don't remember what was going on in 1988, it was like this
February 21st, 2024 at 6:24 AM ^
Link was a fun stroll down memory lane.
February 21st, 2024 at 6:53 AM ^
I forgot all about Katarina Witt. Nice smile!
February 21st, 2024 at 11:25 AM ^
She made the Olympics "must see" tv..
February 21st, 2024 at 12:14 PM ^
East German Judge remembers Katrina.
February 21st, 2024 at 6:58 AM ^
Katarina Witt and Susana Hoffs. Thank you for the memories.
February 21st, 2024 at 10:20 AM ^
thought we were all about to get Rick Rolled
February 21st, 2024 at 1:11 PM ^
"Last year I was 21, didn't have a whole lot of fun.
This year I'll be 22, I say Oh, my and boo-hoo."
-- Ann Arbor Legend
February 21st, 2024 at 1:32 PM ^
Thanks for posting this. I was 12 going on 13 and remember most, but not all, of this.
February 21st, 2024 at 6:47 PM ^
Yes, thanks Tunneler. Great reminder of a lot of things that time had pried from my memory, including Katerina Witt’s Cold War-defrosting smile.
We were newlyweds as well and we were about to buy a house in Ann Arbor for $115k. The price seemed crazy but now I wish I‘d found a way to buy 10 more.
February 21st, 2024 at 1:43 PM ^
Reality is that the P4 conference championship games are still post-season games, it's just that the champions have their first (CCG) and second (2nd round of CFP) games spaced out a bit more.
The toughest slate goes to the CCG losers who qualify for the CFP, as they basically have 5 postseason games and could potentially play up to 17 games. All other teams, including notre dame, would cap out at 16 games.
Random question - does the Hawaii rule still apply? If so, a team could theoretically play in 18 games.
February 20th, 2024 at 8:53 PM ^
Do away with conferences championship games.
February 20th, 2024 at 9:38 PM ^
Honestly, just start your own damn B1G/SEC league already.
Not that I agree with that sentiment but this posturing is the equivalent of the bigger neighborhood kids making up rules to a made-up game that makes it seem like it’s fair to everyone but truly only favors the bigger kids on the block.
A bit of forewarning: Those big kids usually get tired of beating up on everyone else and eventually decide to play by themselves…
February 21st, 2024 at 12:30 AM ^
Yup. Essentially, making it the AFC and NFC of the college football world.
February 21st, 2024 at 9:46 AM ^
Sounds like Calvinball!
February 20th, 2024 at 8:54 PM ^
UM winning the National Championship during the final season college football even remotely resembled the sport I grew up watching is something I’ll never forget.
February 20th, 2024 at 8:57 PM ^
This is exactly how I feel. Non-Michigan fans will never admit it, but Michigan won the last true college football national title. Starting next year, it will be essentially impossible to replicate what Michigan just did. The sport is a minor league now.
February 20th, 2024 at 9:24 PM ^
We also won the last Rose Bowl Game whose name wasn't tainted by a corporate sponsor (1998). From 1999 onwards, the Rose Bowl Game became known as "The Rose Bowl Game presented by [SPONSOR]."
February 20th, 2024 at 10:11 PM ^
And the first Rose bowl, suck it Stanford.
February 20th, 2024 at 10:40 PM ^
I’ve said as much as well. We have the forever satisfaction of having won the last true college football national championship when things still look like college football with an emphasis of only the best teams being in the playoffs and at least a vague connection to the illusion of the amateur student-athlete ideal. Going forward what we will get will be a NFL-style tournament that dilutes the value of the regular season and includes teams that may get hit at the right time and win the tournament but not necessarily truly deserve to call itself national champ based on the total body of the season’s work. Could easily see a 2007 style ending where the college equivalent of the 10-6 Giants gets hot and lucky and beats an undefeated Pats type team. Sixteen teams is too many. Heck, twelve is too many to maintain the integrity of what a national championship should require. Eight, or better still, six should be the number of participants. But it’s all about the Benjamins. Worse still, P-Titti is leading the charge for sixteen teams.
February 21st, 2024 at 1:10 AM ^
Damn it Petitti.... you want 16. Clown. I think 12 might be too much.
February 21st, 2024 at 7:13 AM ^
12 is too much. And, 16 is even worse. The meaningfulness of conference play and a championship is diluted even further.
Though 12 or 16 means more games and potentially more money - and, all Petitti cares about .. like MLB .. is more money.
February 21st, 2024 at 8:24 AM ^
Yet another bullet point that Petitti doesn't care at all about the safety of the players. Adding games for money is just more opportunity for injury.
February 21st, 2024 at 8:33 AM ^
Revenue sharing is coming and the players are going to get TV money, which they obviously should. In order for that to work where everyone is getting a piece, more games are necessary. And the more regulation at the college level will help teams like Michigan. Players will automatically get paid through a union or a university contract with TV revenue built in. More sunshine on the process is best rather than the current SEC model where they just out bid us for players like Keon Sabb. If a team is able to win 4 games in a playoff, that is essentially going through multiple top 10 teams to close a season, they should be considered a legit champ. This is basically what Michigan just did.
February 21st, 2024 at 9:10 AM ^
I like the idea of using the playoff money to compensate players from the conferences participating. One of the biggest issues I have with the pay-the-players crew is "which players". Football makes the money, how do we pay the people making the money, football players, and not softball or crew athletes who are already overcompensated, relatively.
This is the answer. Basketball can use their tournament too.
February 21st, 2024 at 11:30 AM ^
First - I agree that media revenue sharing is important and the solution may not be easy - since revenue / non-revenue generating sports as well as Title IX need to be incorporated into any approach / solution / recommendation.
I assume your reference to the Basketball Tournament is - "The Dance". Be careful here - there's a HUGE difference between football and men's / women's basketball. The difference is - the CFP runs the football "tournament" - the NCAA runs The Dance. So, any basketball solution / approach takes money away from the NCAA.
Hopefully, some type of a solution can be reached before the schools with the largest "variable / NIL" spend - stockpile the highest level prospects. But, heck - we've seen Bama / Georgia / OSU lead the 247 Team Talent Composite for a decade or so already.
February 21st, 2024 at 12:22 PM ^
The NCAA tournament would have to be run by someone else. That should be understood if you are going to distribute that money to players. The NIT used to run this, they can again.
That also means the NCAA is going to find a different revenue source. Which will also likely change their focus and who calls the shots.
Title IX will be overcome. There is enough money to pay off the appropriate people, just as they do now.
February 21st, 2024 at 12:17 PM ^
Michigan went undefeated and beat other teams that had zero or one loss. That is not how this will turn out when teams sneak in with three losses because x conference was “tough” this year. When you add more games you add more variables that come down to luck over skill, like untimely injuries. This will impact outcomes and almost certainly result in an underwhelming and undeserving champion at some point.
February 21st, 2024 at 2:18 PM ^
As much crap as the BCS got, it feels like it was right. There were years where a team got screwed out of a chance for a national championship, but FSU proves that 4 teams didn't change that. We got some memorable National Championship games, and still got to keep the BCS games, that also felt special, and college bowl / tradition.
Maybe this means we have fewer kids skipping the post season. But I agree with the 10-6 Giants vs Patroits Analogy. The Patriots were clearly the better team that year, yet the Giants made one more play then the Patriots that day and got to be champions, despite losing 5 more games than the Patriots.