Secretly hoping for a time closer to 4.15 so he could just maybe be faster than Usain bolt.....but sub 4.4 is fantastic
[Denard officially runs 4.43 40 at NFL combine]
is it? Definitely won't come true now that you told us... very selfish
1 fake out of 5
Denard always deserves his own thread.
I think that's better than most of us were expecting, I'm glad he got that out of the way on his first run. If he somehow does better on his second attempt that'll be fantastic, but you've got to believe he's happy with the fastest time a Michigan player has ever run at the combine.
Congrats, Mr. Robinson.
No luck. 4.45 on the 2nd attempt.
As a Russian I take offense to his accent.
Haha, yeah it's a really really bad Russian accent. Maybe you have to be Russian to notice fake accents, because a lot of movies get away with the generic Borat accent. Still a great role/character nonetheless.
Good job Denard.
Haha everyone pile on Magnus now.
Have to tell Magnus he was right?
A 4.43 is not the time a lot of people were expecting (which was in the 4.2 or 4.3 range).
I don't see how I was "wrong." A 4.43 is a good time, but it's not extremely fast, either.
.1 seconds is a mile's difference in the forty yard dash,
4.43 is fast but nothing special in the nfl...
By my calculations it's about 7.5", but I guess that's enough distance if your QB isreally accurate.
I like that!
that open knowledge about his still-healing nerve makes clear to teams that his upside remains huge.
He just ran his second 40 at 4.45
In case you were curious, here's how that compares to some of the top 40's in combine history:
Chris Johnson - 4.24 (2008)
Tavon Austin - 4.25 (2013)
Marquise Goodwin - 4.25 (2013)
Darrius Heyward-Bey - 4.25 (2009)
Champ Bailey - 4.28 (1999)
Jerome Mathis - 4.28 (2005)
Jacoby Ford - 4.28 (2010)
Bo Jackson also reportedly ran a 4.12 in 1986. Don't think that was laser timed though FWIW.
I once saw Bill Brasky run a sub-4.0 40 while eating a sandwich.
he had a more trouble getting out of the blocks on the second... probably because he's so unaccustomed to running with tied shoes!
I'm thinking it has more to do with the starting stance that no one actually uses.
Wouldn't Denard use that same stance for indoor track?
No...in track you have both hands on the ground and are in starting blocks as ooposed to one arm up and flat ground for the 40
Thanks...I didn't notice that before watching the video.
So Denard is the only one using this stance at the combine? I'm thinking his 'slow' time might have more to do with a kid who worked for 4 years at the QB position competing with guys who spent 3 to 4 years at the WR position. That's the difference that makes a difference. Your point contains no difference at all.
About half the guys have false started on their runs. Denard did it once on the first run and twice on the second. That wasted burst costs them. My point is that it would be more applicable if they just did a 2-point stance that WRs use or the 3-point stance that OL, TE, and FB use. If they use one of those stances, they'll get much better and more consistent results.
Bad split but at least gms and scouts know how fast he really is.
All this "they know how fast he really is" is just blind homerism. I guess that while Denard is really faster than his time, everyone else is either equal or slower than their times. The point is that Denard spent the last few years focusing more on throwing, timing, reading, while the other guys focused more on running, catching, and blocking. He's really fast, but he's really fast for a guy who played QB, not for a guy who played WR or RB.
Ummm, I'm pretty sure 4.34 is fast for anyone, not just a QB. And there's a difference between in game speed and straight line track speed, game speed being a combination of straight line speed and quickness. Watching a highlight tape will show you that Denard clearly has incredible in game speed.
He was still the 3rd fastest (tied) as a wide receiver . I was surprised. I think he really did well.
Or , 7th. Sorry. Official time jumped.
Tape is available and abundant. You can't say the same about someone at a smaller university.
I am no expert, but my guess woudl be that I think you could say the same thing - they have tape, and they are certainly sending what tape they have to to NFL scouts.
is it like an SAT score and look at your best one? or is it an average?
They don't win anything for this, so there would be no point in either of those. It's an overall assessment. They're just looking at how fast the guys are. If a guy ran a 4.34 on one, he's pretty dang fast. He ran slower the second time, so he didn't get as good of a start, but he's still capable of crazy speed. The start is essentially neutralized in a game so I don't really see much of a difference between hundredths of a second for scouting purposes.
Well, this year the fastest time does win a contract with Adidas.
They look at your SAT score and wonderlick score and average them with respect to the number of standard deviations away from the mean score.
Untie your shoes silly!
I'd rather he doesn't get the fastest time cause I want to see him win in the NFL, and being with the Raiders is no way to win games...
looks like tavon austin just jumped up a lot of teams draft boards. That boy fast
Denard on front page of NFL.com
[Picture looks better on NFL.com. Great shot with correct proportions.]
Denard's official fastest is being reported as 4.43 by Rich Eisen
Goodwin at 4.27 and Austin at 4.34. This makes Goodwin the fastest ever official?
ran the fastest ever, at 4.25
How is this even possible? They showed the two runs synced up and they were absolutely neck and neck.
I really think the combine official times are shaky as hell. This has happened before.
I'm with ya. I don't how Austin and Denard had .09 added, seems suspect
That's what they just announced. Did I hear it right?
Not sure where they get the original times, but 4.43 will be his official time.
Unofficial times are usually hand-timed, probably someone sitting at one of those tables...
Denard catching everything early in the on field workouts. Only criticism so far is his ability as a "natural" pass catcher. Michael Irvin made a nice observation in regards to the spacing of his hands upon the arrival of the ball.
Seems as if he is showing GMs what they had to see. Excited to see his pro day in a more comfortable setting.
I'd much rather be hearing this than whether or not he had a good 40 time. Everyone and their mother knows Denard is fast, and he's still not 100% yet with regards to his injury. What he needed to prove is that he could catch, and apparently he's doing that. If he shows he can catch everything thrown his way, there's no reason he can't go second or third round.
There's a lot for scouts and GMs to like about Denard right now.
This group of receivers has had a lot of drops. Denard has done better than most
Denard has caught everything so far. Nice catch on the low thrown ball just now.
his senior year. This confirms it. Probably the added weight.
Except that he never ran in the NFL Combine before now. His earlier reported times were not necessarily as accurately recorded.
Absolutely confirms it. One run. Molasses.
Here are the Top 10 40-times as they stand among WRs per NFL.com right now:
|Tavon Austin||West Virginia||4.34|
|Ryan Swope||Texas A&M||4.34|
|Corey Fuller||Virginia Tech||4.43|
|Markus Wheaton||Oregon State||4.45|
Denard's 10-yard split is better than any of the other top 10 aside from maybe Austin.
He could run again at Michigan's pro day. A 4.43 is very solid and he seemed to track the ball well in a couple other drills. He could very well being a Day 2 pick
The thread title says he ran 4.43. The OP says 4.34. Which is it?
ran a 4.34 and a 4.45, which I'm pretty sure is just a few people with stopwatches trying to time the runners. The NFL released their official time of 4.43, which is done by laser and will be the time used by the NFL.
Change your title-It says 4.43 instead of 4.34.
Denard's official time was 4.43, which is noted in the edited title.
great athlete and a shaky receiver - but he'll interview well and help his stock this weekend.
Needs to catch tennis balls to improve hand technique.
Imagine if the Pats drafted him!!!!
If you get a chance, you should probably edit the body of the op as well, since having two times listed can be a little confusing.
I didn't start a separate thread..but yahoo actually has a quick article on how Denard is doing as a receiver today. Sounds like he got some props for improvements in receiver type things.
All this talk about his 40 time, but once you get into the upper echelon of speed do hundredths of a second really matter to the NFL scouts? I'm more concerned that he is basically new to the position and missed the experience at receiver that all the others got. Would love to see this great Michigan man do well in the NFL.
Are quite inaccurate of a measurement, even at the combine. As a track guy, I laugh at the measurement. The NFL has what it needs, he's fast. Then you look at the tape and see how explosive he is, and the ability to run away from everyone on the field.
The biggest question for NFL scouts is getting off the line, getting into and out of routes and then being a reliable receiver. Particularly with the type of throws to maximize Denard's speed.