November 27th, 2016 at 3:21 PM ^
I'm no replay official, but that looks short to me.
November 27th, 2016 at 3:22 PM ^
Yeah, a replay official would see that as "close enough".
November 27th, 2016 at 3:45 PM ^
That's the new "In The Neighborhood Rule".
November 27th, 2016 at 3:37 PM ^
I thought Harbaugh was saying there was no camera down the line though, and there should be one... So wouldn't this be an image from a different angle? I only say this because the lines on the photo look slanted, so it looks like a cropped image that was positioned to look like it was down the line.
November 27th, 2016 at 4:25 PM ^
guess that Jim wasn't talking about every camera and every shot in the stadium. He's eagle-eyed, but one just might have slipped past him.
November 27th, 2016 at 4:42 PM ^
I think he was talking about video cameras. This appears to be from a photographer.
November 27th, 2016 at 4:21 PM ^
He was being mugged and still had the gumption and fortitude to give it to Barrett. Three cheers for Chris Wormley!
November 27th, 2016 at 9:20 PM ^
Wormley's hand is the key to matching this up with the video. You can tell in the video when this is by where his hand is on Barrett. I don't have the time to break it down right now, but from quick glance it it seems to show he was short. I'd love if someone would match them up timing wise via this, someone smarter than me.
November 27th, 2016 at 5:15 PM ^
I especially liked how you cropped out the hash marks to hide the fact that that angle is way behind the play, not directly above. Do me a favor and 'leave here' a shot of the massive hold that went uncalled the play before.
November 27th, 2016 at 5:23 PM ^
Save your breath, Buckeye's don't understand angles let alone math and physics.
November 27th, 2016 at 6:40 PM ^
any discussion or argument with an idiot is exactly one thing, a waste of time.
November 27th, 2016 at 8:14 PM ^
I'm amazed it knows how to use the Internet.
November 27th, 2016 at 11:54 PM ^
Well then you can save your breathe talking about this because its over and you lost.
November 27th, 2016 at 5:23 PM ^
Funny you Buckeye fans only use this shitty angle as "proof" you made it.
The OP shot is right on the side, clear as day showing he didnt make it.
Michigan got screwed all day and Ohio State was lucky to even force OT.
November 27th, 2016 at 5:30 PM ^
You go right ahead a leave that there like the turd that it is.
Never mind that you had to rotate the image in order to try to distort the perspective in order to make your point.
Never mind that you had to crop it so that nobody sees the incredibly slanted hash marks. Looking at the image, it looks as if the field was inclined about 30 degrees down to the left. Was it? Of course not, because your image is bullshit.
And that is the point, isn't it? Your argument is so weak, you have to resort to distorted images.
Well, lets talk about your bullshit image. Where's the ball? In Barrett's right hand and where?
Is the ball 8 inches up #88's ass? Because that is where it would have to be in order to be a 1st down in your image.
November 27th, 2016 at 6:13 PM ^
... not very bright.
November 27th, 2016 at 6:53 PM ^
The fact that you felt the need to come on here, create an account, and post this tells me all I need to know about that call yesterday.
November 27th, 2016 at 8:04 PM ^
Nice job upvoting your debunked picture.
Whatever, OSU won the game. But I'll take solace in the fact that OSU needed literally every bit of good fortune/stupidity to pull it off.
November 27th, 2016 at 9:39 PM ^
eat shit
November 27th, 2016 at 11:57 PM ^
This literally looks like a dream scene from inception with the way that it is tilted and almost appears that the field is moving on a vertical plane... Actually, come to think of it, maybe this was a dream from inception and the referees were not real people, but instead the collective subconscious of the OSU fans in attendence... Hmmm.... Would certainly explain their inability to grasp basic concepts such as holding, PI, sportsmanship, and the like.
November 27th, 2016 at 5:41 PM ^
people are using the pic from up top. which looks like he might have it. From the looks of it he looks like he is in the spot as the other pic people are floating around.
November 27th, 2016 at 7:16 PM ^
He could be short but that screenshot is clearly taken from after Barrett has already bounced back some after hitting the guy in front of hims ass so this screenshot doesn't actually prove anything.
November 27th, 2016 at 8:09 PM ^
but said ass is still behind the first down marker. and 88 never gets pushed backwards. watch the video.
November 27th, 2016 at 8:49 PM ^
Oh I'm not disputing he was short, but using a still without proof that it is from his farthest point forwards isn't any better than a cropped angled photo.
November 27th, 2016 at 9:29 PM ^
Your theory is thoroughly debunked lower down in the thread.
Long story short: The photo in the OP shows Barrett's forward most progress. He was short
November 27th, 2016 at 3:21 PM ^
Seems it would be hard to teleport through your own teamate's ass
November 27th, 2016 at 3:25 PM ^
That would be a real team player. "I'm unclenched, SHOVE IT, SHOVE IT'
November 27th, 2016 at 3:26 PM ^
Not an uncommon occurrence for members of the Buckeye family. Been going on for generations.
November 27th, 2016 at 3:31 PM ^
I'm sure that feat would be possible for a couple osu students...
November 27th, 2016 at 3:22 PM ^
Looks short...
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November 27th, 2016 at 3:22 PM ^
Looks short. Damn it. Can we please stop going over this time and time again. Makes it hurt more
November 27th, 2016 at 7:38 PM ^
Agree. I almost wish we find conclusive evidence that he DID make it
November 27th, 2016 at 3:23 PM ^
Surprised we didn't see that during the game.
Looks pretty indisputable to me.
God fucking damn it.
November 27th, 2016 at 3:25 PM ^
Well, you have to actually review it to catch it.
November 27th, 2016 at 4:12 PM ^
was from a photographer, not the video replays
November 27th, 2016 at 9:28 PM ^
If it's from a photographer the replay judge wouldn't have had that to review. That's all the more reason we need CAMERAS ON THE FIELD not just rely on fucking espn. But the conference only cares for saving a few hundred $ on their millions not justice, same reason they hired a local lifelong Ohio fan to ref the game
Solution: we need to stop investing in football
November 27th, 2016 at 3:24 PM ^
Yep, same as yesterday....SHORT!
Turnover on downs Michigans wins.
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November 27th, 2016 at 3:25 PM ^
first down.
November 27th, 2016 at 3:25 PM ^
Very close, but about 6 inches short
November 27th, 2016 at 3:25 PM ^
A still will not be able to prove this was stopped short. We don't know where the ball was before or after the still was taken. This is just one instant caught in time.
November 27th, 2016 at 3:28 PM ^
I think the assumption is that this is the furthest Barrett advanced, and the still taken at that moment. Or else this makes no sense as a still.
November 27th, 2016 at 3:36 PM ^
Based on what I have seen, I think this was taken by a photographer on the sideline. The video on the broadcast never showed this view from the sideline.
The views from the broadcast were terrible. We needed a sideline or a direct overhead view, and we got nothing remotely close to that. On a play that crucial to the game, I would have thought they would have been ready with better angles to capture it.
November 27th, 2016 at 3:58 PM ^
Is how quickly they came to a decision, and I don't remember a clear explanation from the ref either...at this point, I grab murilple beers and started pounding beers
November 27th, 2016 at 5:28 PM ^
It would be explained that the video was "inconclusive" so the call on the field stands... the replay did not validate a first down by evidence, only that there wasn't enough to overturn... probably based on the bad angle.
November 27th, 2016 at 3:32 PM ^
Is there a video from this angle?
November 27th, 2016 at 3:34 PM ^
This. Photo could have easily been taken after he got knocked back.
Video shows he was close to the line. Could have gone either way.
November 27th, 2016 at 3:45 PM ^
Except that is clearly the same still photo from everything else. This is his furthest point.
November 27th, 2016 at 4:05 PM ^
This is the farthest Barret got to within an inch. You can double check that by watching the full replay and watching how far. Arrest ever got his outstretched hand that touches the ground. The farthest he ever reached is this instant.
November 27th, 2016 at 4:12 PM ^
Look at Barrett's hand. He was at his furthest when his hand touched the ball. The thing this angle shows clearly is how high (or not high) Barrett was off the ground. In fact, in the video you can see the ball poke out and touch 88 on the butt. The important thing about that is that his butt (behind Barrett's head) is clearly behind the line. It's actually not possible he reached the 15 unless he went through 88 because 88 is moving towards the the Michigan player, and this is the furthest Barrett made it forward. The phantom first down is confirmed.