Comprehensive Rant Thread

Submitted by JimBobTressel on

Let us cope.

My method? Drugs.

[ED:BISB- Have at it, but please don't start your own posts. May this be the only rant thread.  See some of you on TWIS]

 

[JBT edit: Mods just ninjaed my thread!!!]

NFZ

November 5th, 2011 at 3:22 PM ^

Commence the binge drinking. Michigan loses, the Lions can't remedy the situation with a win because of a bye week, and my fantasy team will lose a must win matchup tomorrow. FML. I am off to get alchohol poisoning.

ijohnb

November 5th, 2011 at 5:05 PM ^

is right.  I am married with children, but they are going to see some old school drinking tonight.  Like I want a hangover, a bad one.  I choose this path over cutting myself.

Beat the Illini.

08mms

November 5th, 2011 at 6:10 PM ^

Meh, after MSU I regrounded my expectations back to what I hoped for at the begining of the year.  If we take 2 of the next 3 I'll be thrilled, if we take just OSU I'll be thrilled, if we drop the rest of the season, grumble grumble last three years grumble grumble.

nyc_wolverines

November 5th, 2011 at 10:15 PM ^

Roundtree is physical, ESPN showed a nice replay of him arm throwing his corner to the ground.... And then Denard over threw him with no defender within 10 yards of Roy...

 

Also, if the refs can look for an call "Illegal Snap" WTF can't they call "def holding" or "pass interference"

 

I don't accept "we can't let the refs beat us.

 

Sometimes games are close by design and it should never come down to the refs, even when teams are evenly matched.

nyc_wolverines

November 5th, 2011 at 10:15 PM ^

Roundtree is physical, ESPN showed a nice replay of him arm throwing his corner to the ground.... And then Denard over threw him with no defender within 10 yards of Roy...

 

Also, if the refs can look for an call "Illegal Snap" WTF can't they call "def holding" or "pass interference"

 

I don't accept "we can't let the refs beat us.

 

Sometimes games are close by design and it should never come down to the refs, even when teams are evenly matched.

nyc_wolverines

November 5th, 2011 at 10:15 PM ^

Roundtree is physical, ESPN showed a nice replay of him arm throwing his corner to the ground.... And then Denard over threw him with no defender within 10 yards of Roy...

 

Also, if the refs can look for an call "Illegal Snap" WTF can't they call "def holding" or "pass interference"

 

I don't accept "we can't let the refs beat us.

 

Sometimes games are close by design and it should never come down to the refs, even when teams are evenly matched.

ChiCityWolverine

November 5th, 2011 at 3:29 PM ^

2 of the 4 plays we didn't have a chance due to the refs. Denard's first throw was awful and the third play was doomed by the unblocked blitzer, but Junior caught that ball and Roundtree had no chance to make his catch due to the early contact.

Bottom line is the defense was rock solid for the most part and gave us a chance to come back, but sitting at the doorstep we were screwed by 2 calls (or lack thereof). Sure we could've done more early, but the offense was rolling and I would've liked our chances if we had been able to convert for 2 and force OT.

CollegeFootball13

November 5th, 2011 at 3:26 PM ^

I am in shock. No clue how that was called no touchdown, no clue how three separate blatant pass interferences weren't called, no clue how we lost to a team that lost to Minnesota. In shock.

bluebyyou

November 5th, 2011 at 5:35 PM ^

When you have to rely on the refs, you are in trouble.  And yeah, we got screwed on calls but that shouldn't have mattered.  We gave the frigging game away.

The turnover gremlins were back at it again as they always seem to be often with Denard under center.  He didn't play a bad game but you can't make a couple of turnovers every week and expect to win close games.

Our O just didn't play well.  This two QB thing is also a big piece of shit.  It confuses people - yeah, us.  Some of this play calling also sucks...you have one of the most exciting players in the country and don't take advantage of his skills.  When Denard is gone, do what you want, but in the meantime, give him an opportunity to succeed, and it won't be through the middle.

cclittle

November 5th, 2011 at 3:23 PM ^

WHY NO PASS INTERFERENCE EVER ON ANYTHING???

WHY IS AMAZING CATCH NOT A TOUCHDOWN??????

....

I am in the wrong thread because I am clearly not coping.

jmblue

November 5th, 2011 at 3:52 PM ^

And if Denard had been tackled inbounds, causing the clock to run out, people would be bitching about Borges not recognizing the situation and having him get rid of the ball right away.

The playcalling there was not a problem.  The second-down play got us a TD, but the officials blew the call.  The third-down play should've gotten a TD, but Smith dropped the pass.  Then on 4th down Roundtree was hit before the ball came.  

Mannix

November 5th, 2011 at 5:06 PM ^

Aaaand, what would be irrational about getting DRob in space with instructions (just in case a D1 player didn't know their team had no timeouts and all) to throw the ball if you know A) nobody is open B) OMG, you're going to get tackled and we have no timeouts!

 

jmblue

November 5th, 2011 at 5:43 PM ^

1) Sometimes you can get blindsided by a blitzer, as we saw against MSU.

2) He doesn't throw well on the move.  I could see him drawing the defense to him and leaving a guy wide open in the endzone - only to airmail it. 

Having him take the snap and immediately throw to the guy with single coverage is pretty simple.  It got us a TD on second down, but officials saw otherwise.

Yeoman

November 5th, 2011 at 5:47 PM ^

If you're sure it's the right play it's worth it, of course, but I'm guessing it would have cost us one of the last four downs.

The plays called had the advantage of being very quick.

Marshmallow

November 5th, 2011 at 4:38 PM ^

I didn't think the playcalling was a problem.  [edit: actually using the last time out on first down was a problem.]  But would you ever be capable of admitting that this coaching staff made a mistake?  Dude, you are constantly apologizing or making excuses for them.  No one's perfect.

Mannix

November 5th, 2011 at 5:03 PM ^

would be one on one w/ a LB or another on any speed option, pass option. Explicit in the play call would be "Hey, DRob, we have no timeouts so if you're under duress, throw the ball away". See, that's not so tough.

You assume the stretch to the outside would result instantly in a tackle and clock run out. We will differ, b/c I say the playcalling sucked down there and most of the game. The fades on the first two plays sucked b/c DRob apparently throws fades in practice to the outside but in games back to the inside, off his back foot and almost OOB.

I understand the ref blew the call on the last two plays, but the play calls themselves did not force Iowa to account for DRob. They just kept their lanes and said, "Beat us with your arm". He did not.

What was the most dangerous play of the four? When DRob got out of the pocket and Iowa commenced panicking. Ergo, DRob out of the pocket = danger for the other team.

DRob in pocket = Defense thank Borges for now making their job easier.

FreddieMercuryHayes

November 5th, 2011 at 3:59 PM ^

Eh.  Iowa sent everyone not in man coverage on every single one of those plays, and that included edge pressure.  That means someone is unblocked even if everyone does their assignment.  A roll out could mean rolling into the outside blitz, and if a guy gets even a hand on Denard, game over.  The way to beat that is quick throws and fades.  One was a miscoummunication, one was a TD that was a blown call, then we had a dropped TD, then there was the PI (albeit not blatent) that was not called.  Play-calling wasn't the issue.

Space Coyote

November 5th, 2011 at 5:56 PM ^

Hemingway was open on first and second down.  On first down he broke to the corner (where the ball should have been thrown) without a guy within two yards off him.  Denard missed the throws.  On second down Denard made a poor pass again and Hemingway adjusted and made a great play.  The only quesiton I have is on 4th down.  I would have liked to see Denard on the move too.  But at the same time, without PI Roundtree beats his man to the spot and that is a touchdown.  So, the playcalling wasn't all that terrible.

I do agree I would have spiked the ball on first down though and kept a timeout.

wlubd

November 5th, 2011 at 3:24 PM ^

Argh. Irritating when you play poorly and yet get a chance to win the game and have it taken out of your hands.

Not really complaining about refs because Iowa did outplay us and if not for some big defensive stops, we had no chance. But arrrrghhhh.....

wlubd

November 5th, 2011 at 3:46 PM ^

Refs did miss calls, no argument there and they had an impact on the final score which blows.

Unfortunately, that happens sometimes and simple solution to avoid it is for the offence to not have anemia for the first 50 minutes of the game.

We put ourselves in a position where we had to scramble to come back and it hurt us. Yes, ultimately we get screwed on a few plays but if we manage anything resembling a functioning offence all game, then this thread might not exist.