CC: Which other power five programs will be looking for a coach?

Submitted by andre10 on

As we discuss all the candidates out there, it might be important to discuss who we might be competing with for those coaches. Off the top of my head I know Florida keeps getting brought up as snatching up Dan Mullen before we can; anyone else? 

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BloomingtonBlue

October 8th, 2014 at 11:09 PM ^

I have a friend who knows his shit about Illinois. He lives and breathes it, he hates his life basically. He says they have a worse AD than we do and are far more focused on academics than athletics now a days. He thinks Beckman will get another year.


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FrankMurphy

October 9th, 2014 at 1:59 PM ^

It wasn't exactly a mess, but Dykes threw out Tedford's pro-style offense in favor of a passing spread. Also, they had a nightmarish rash of injuries on defense and wound up starting true freshmen and walk-ons at several key positions. They're deeper this year.

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m1817

October 8th, 2014 at 11:46 PM ^

Because Hoke is well regarded as a person, it wouldn't surprise me if he is allowed to resign as a coach and is reassigned as an associate AD - similar to Bump Elliott in 1968.  That will allow a smooth transition to a new coach with minimal disruption to the football program.  After that, Hoke may find a new career as an AD elsewhere, again similar to Bump Elliott.

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Mr. Yost

October 9th, 2014 at 4:47 AM ^

This isn't 1960!!!

  1. Football coaches don't just become AD's anymore
  2. Hoke would have NO interest in becoming an AD
  3. You REALLY think Brady Hoke, of ALLLL people on this planet, would be fit to run an ATHLETICS DEPARTMENT?!

I don't care if he's retiring into a b/s Associate AD role, you mentioned he may find a new career elsewhere as an AD.

I want to throw up at the notion of Brady Hoke becoming an AD, he doesn't know the first THING about athletics administration. Most football coaches don't and never did.

In 1960-1980 the notion was "if you can lead a football team, you can lead an athletics department." That's no longer true.

Also, just the position has changed SOOOOO much over the past 20 years. It's why Michigan now has a pizza man as their AD. It's a business job, not a coaching job.

Brady Hoke can't get through a press conference and you want him to be an Athletics Director, lol.

Sorry, I'm just deeply offended. As an athletics administrator, you say Brady Hoke could be and AD...even the honorary Coach Carr type AD role is disturbing. That would be like suggesting that me, Mr. Yost...the blogger, should be considered to coach the football team.

Brady Hoke hasn't earned even a fake honoray AD title, and no one does that anymore. MACK BROWN isn't even a fake honorary AD at Texas. MACK BROWN.

It's a complete waste of money. Again it's 2014, you're in SE Michigan, in this economy. It's kind of hard to pay a guy 250k/year to do nothing...just because he's a nice guy. And again, many, maybe even most of Brady Hoke's flaws as a football coach are administrative.

100% he'll coach DL somewhere, maybe even in the NFL like his brother. In fact, to get away from college for 2-3 years it would be smart to coach DL in the NFL, pro sports allows all coaches to get out of the light whether they sucked or scandal. Then he can pop back up in 2018 and coach a MAC school.

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Mr. Yost

October 10th, 2014 at 4:35 PM ^

And he's FAR more intellectual the Hoke...he also earned it way more than Hoke...he also transitioned to it in 2007/2008, not 2014. You're talking about the front end of the economy really really getting bad versus when it's already been bad for 6 years.

Things change.

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Mr. Yost

October 10th, 2014 at 4:38 PM ^

I knew someone would use Alvarez.

You do realize that he spends most of his time fundraising and giving speeches, right?

He's also part of a bunch of committees. 

What most ADs do day-to-day and what Barry does day-to-day is vastly different.

Just like JoePa was the coach at PSU before he died. But really? His assistants were doing a LOT of the work and most people knew that. I'd say Alavarez and AD is even more of a difference than JoePa and head coach.

Also, you picked one. Mike Ballotti (sp?) would've been another. But there are what, 120 D1 schools? 300-400 D1 without football?

You picked the one that has the old football coach, who is a LEGEND as the AD.

You just compared Brady Hoke at Michigan to Barry fucking Alvarez at Wisconsin.

Think about that for a second and come back to me.

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thedayiscoming

October 8th, 2014 at 11:27 PM ^

Call me crazy, but I could see LSU looking for someone new.  I dont think they'll be too tolerant of 41-7 blow outs and I've never understood the hype around Les.  Thats a team with tons of talent that tends to under achieve most years.  Watching the Wisconsin game earlier this year was exhibit A: a totally superior team talent wise that should have lost to one-dimensional Wisconsin team.  My fear is that LSU will be ready for him to leave when we come calling and they thank us for the offer...

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alum96

October 8th, 2014 at 11:48 PM ^

It would be fascinating if LSU blew out Miles but in fairness they lost a ton of talent to the NFL.  Not sure what happened to the defense this year but the offense is a bunch of newbs.  And LSU doesnt usually have a great offense even when its full of upperclassmen.

But to your point this could be a very dark year for LSU.

Still ahead:

  • a mediocre UF but on the road
  • a UK team that while not good might make life uncomfortable for a half or 3 quarters
  • Ole Miss
  • Bama
  • @ Big Bert
  • @ A&M

I could see 3 losses very easily in those 6 games and potentially 4.

But for them to blow out Miles would be a case of be careful of what you wish for - both UM and TN know what happens when you blow out an entrenched coach who 'underachieves' and Miles' underachievement is far less in duration than Carr or Fulmer.  He is coming off twin 10-3 seasons after 13-1 in 2011.

Now maybe LSU makes a big move for Mullen which no one is considering - who knows. Mullen is interesting to me because until 3 weeks ago he didnt have 1 signature win in 6 years.  He was 4-6 11 months ago at this time.  How quickly a man's fortunes can change is interesting.

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Mr. Yost

October 9th, 2014 at 4:59 AM ^

Les Miles has had GREAT coordinators. He's in fertile recruiting ground. He's had hype in his program. He's charismatic. He's a great recruiter.

IMO, Les Miles is not a good coach in terms of "coaching a player up." He's a good coach in the CEO/experience sense. I wouldn't want him at Michigan with the talent we have. His antics are only cute and cool when he's winning. Brady Hoke gets yelled at for clapping. Miles claps AND eats grass.

Also, the SEC landscape is completely different than Michigan or ND. It's not 1980 anymore, I totally get that. 100%. But it's still different.

Rich Rod struggled to get some of his borderline kids into Michigan. But they all would've been fine at WVU. How many kids did have no qualify and play a down at Michigan?

Again, it's not like it used to be...but it's not the SEC either. I think Miles would adjust, no problem, but it also could deminish the level of talent he's bringing in.

Miles is also old. At this point he's just a figure head who's challenging opinions and asking questions. Miles is Spurrier. Which isn't a knock, they're legendary, but right now? With this Michigan team? They're just a fun story for the press if they came to Michigan.

IMO, Michigan needs all hands on deck when it comes to coaching. Not a figurehead who's just going to give the direction of the program and have coordinators do all the work. We're not at that level. We need the head coach to do something more than press conferences and make the big decisions of the program. We need him to be involved in the small decisions too.

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poseidon7902

October 9th, 2014 at 8:54 AM ^

Good friend of mine (and huge donor to LSU) keeps feeding me his insight into Miles.  I don't know why, but the fanbase seems to have wore thin on him.  I don't think this is the year he 'retires' (unless MIchigan makes a run at him possibly), but the fan base is probably at a point where they are just sick of him losing games he shouldn't and are ready to look at other options.  I just don't see the AD feeling that way just yet.  He's too good at what he does and has done to not give him time.  

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