CC: Which other power five programs will be looking for a coach?
October 9th, 2014 at 9:03 AM ^
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October 9th, 2014 at 10:00 AM ^
So I've actually watched all their games the last few years and browse their mgoblog equivalent occasionally, and you are spot on. I've been trying to tell people this lately. The only reason LSU is going to have a down year, is because they are a god dam NFL factory (Miles has put more ppeople in NFL than any other school in SEC, even Bama, look it up). Miles biggest problem the last few years is that all his underclassment go pro. They had 9 players...9!...in the 2014 NFL draft. I believe something like 6 were underclassman. Compound that over the last few years, its just not possible to reload talent that quick. He's plugging in true freshman in road games in the toughest division in college football.
Now, given all this NFL talent, is there an argument he's under acheived? Sure, but by "under achieve" people mean he's only won 1 NC and averages 10+ wins, when he really should have 2-3 NC's, and only lost 1 game a season otherwise. However, I feel that there's something to be said to being a 10 win team constantly. Think about, is there anyone else besides Saban who is consistently a NC contender? But how many teams bring in top talent, and end up floundering, or maybe having 1 good year, then back to 8 wins - USC, ND?, looking like FSU maybe, Michigan, Florida, and I'm sure there's more.
Main point: Taking a team with NC level talent and consistently having 10 win seasons is not as "under achieving" as you think, and is really taking a coach for granted when you consider how few coaches are above that threshold, and how many fail to reach it.
October 9th, 2014 at 12:02 AM ^
Anybody that loses to us this year.
October 9th, 2014 at 12:07 AM ^
October 9th, 2014 at 12:14 AM ^
October 9th, 2014 at 12:29 AM ^
Florida
North Carolina
Miami (Fla.)
Kansas
Maybe West Virginia
October 9th, 2014 at 2:13 AM ^
Miami isnt going to nix Golden. They just recently signed him to an extension when PSU was snooping around.
WVU isnt going to pull the plug on Holgorsen either.
And Kansas isnt really a threat to us in a coaching search. Florida and maybe UNC are the only teams on this list that worry me.
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October 9th, 2014 at 8:57 AM ^
Why UNC? They aren't overly investing top dollar into their football program. I think with the continued bad performance and bad PR, Florida will be looking. Obviously there's still a lot of football left, but I'd be suprised if FL isn't an available slot.
October 9th, 2014 at 1:08 AM ^
October 9th, 2014 at 1:15 AM ^
if Bama isn't a draw on it's own, frankly, neither in Michigan.
October 9th, 2014 at 4:04 AM ^
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October 9th, 2014 at 8:13 AM ^
Put it this way, all those great type of recruits that Miles gets from FL, TX, and LA are not going to come up to Michigan just because Miles is there.
October 9th, 2014 at 8:28 AM ^
October 9th, 2014 at 5:43 AM ^
October 9th, 2014 at 8:44 AM ^
Louisiana produces the seventh most D-1 college football players. This is more than the state of Michigan. And LSU does not have to recruit against another school in-state.
http://www.footballstudyhall.com/2013/9/11/4718442/college-football-sta…
October 9th, 2014 at 5:01 AM ^
Isn't he gonna get fired?
October 9th, 2014 at 7:02 AM ^
Of all the programs in trouble this year that would be looking for a new coach at the end of the season I only see Florida as a potential problem. But frankly, they'll probably throw money at Dan Mullen first. I doubt they go after a Harbaugh or Les Miles, or frankly, anyone Michigan is looking to get.
October 10th, 2014 at 4:14 PM ^
I'd guess Florida's list would intersect with ours at a couple of places... if there is someone out there unhappy with their current position and looking for an out, maybe a David Shaw (with Stanford likely taking a step back and his rumored NFL ambitions in tatters) or even a Gundy, I could see both of us making a pitch. But the reality of the situation right now is that there's only one Mullen and only one of us is getting him, so I don't think it matters if they want anyone else on our list.
What would be interesting to me is if we got Mullen and Florida went after RichRod, who I doubt will be at Arizona forever and would likely kill for the chance.
October 9th, 2014 at 7:47 AM ^
It may take a couple more big losses this season, but I could see Oregon looking for a new head coach. Their current coach is seen as unimaginative, not great at player devolpment and trending downword. Oregon believes it is getting better players now with less results and may want the next hot innovator to step in. It is a long shot, but it would not surprise me.
Oregon football reminds me of one of those pop up stores you see during Halloween. It knows it could easily drop from beig a top 10 program and struggle to ever get back if it does. The Nike money will help them hire anyone they want and take care of any buyout. They are predicated on always being ahead of the curve offensively and since Helfrich isn't meeting those standards, it wouldn't surprise me if his seat is hotter than we realize.
October 9th, 2014 at 8:20 AM ^
Don't forget programs that have done so well, or well enough, that they lose someone to the NFL. Especially when it's a nearby program with at least equal, and probably greater appeal to available candidates than Michigan.
I think it's at least 50:50 scenario that ND will be looking to replace Kelly.
October 9th, 2014 at 10:34 AM ^
seems far fetched - but I guess it would depend on how well the eagles do this year
October 9th, 2014 at 8:45 AM ^
Well...at least we'll have first dibs on any "Michigan Men".
October 9th, 2014 at 8:50 AM ^
As noted, Illinois and Miami seem like likely places in need for changes. I'd also throw in WVU just because Dana hasn't been THAT good there, and while they are patient he's also rubbed people the wrong way. Also, I could see him running to another program if he has a decent season but sees the ceiling.
October 9th, 2014 at 8:54 AM ^
Florida and Michigan should be the top two HC vacancies. I'm not sure which one would be the more attractive position. Step 1 for UM is getting a new AD and then there should be a good selection of candidates.
October 9th, 2014 at 9:53 AM ^
Kansas has already fired their coach. Illinois' Beckman is a dead man walking. Florida's Muschamp is another bad loss or two from out of a job.
October 9th, 2014 at 11:31 AM ^
Well, we know Kansas will be looking for a coach, but I'm not worried about competing with them. Illinois will be as well unless Beckman can pull off a ridiculous turnaround. Which is likely not going to happen. Not worried about competing with them, either.
Florida likely will be, but I think Muschamp bought himself a little bit of time by beating Tennessee. Not much, since you only beat them 10-9, but had he lost that game, I think his fate would absolutely be sealed. But he's got LSU, Georgia, and Mizzou in the next 3 games, so its very likely he wins none of those games. If he goes 0-3 through that, he might get let go right after the Georgia game, especially if it means losing to them 4 times in a row. And then there's FSU at the end. They're flawed, but FSU is not losing to Florida. Especially not at home. They've got the potential to be 6-6 or 7-5 this year. If that's the case, Muschamp is a goner.
I think unless we land a Harbaugh, we'll have an extremely tough time competing with Florida for a top hire. If Mullen is going anywhere, he'll go back to Florida, and let's face it, they're in a much better position to get turned around and win championships immediately. All the talent is there, and you're in one of the best states you could possibly be in for recruiting. We're just an absolute mess from the AD all the way down to the waterboy.
October 9th, 2014 at 12:08 PM ^
New to the board, so don't know where else to post this, but I've found myself wondering how important it is for a new HC to have seen the talent he is trying to recruit. IOW, an NFL coach should be able to identify NFL talent when he sees it, and a Power 5 coach should be able to identify Power 5 talent when he sees it. Does a mid major coach have that same eye? Does it matter for a HC? It obviously matters for recruiters and the HC should generally be a recruiter, but I thought about this because I've talked to others who aren't set on hiring a "name" coach (a vague term to be sure), whereas I think hiring a HC from another Power 5 Conference or NFL should be a big positive, but that it must also be paired with HC experience, and a good track record. Obviously, those are high standards and something will likely have to give, but that's what I'd be looking for in a new HC anyways. Carry on.
October 9th, 2014 at 5:33 PM ^