CC: Bob Stoops in play?
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/travis-haney/post?id=3840
I can only read part of this article, but this is the second article in a matter of days that suggests Stoops ought to leave Norman.
If he does come available than he(in my mind) is 2nd or 3rd on the list. He fields good defenses, runs a spread, and has a national title. If Harbaugh is a no-go than Stoops would be a very strong second option if he is willing to leave Norman.
November 9th, 2014 at 8:41 PM ^
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November 9th, 2014 at 8:29 PM ^
The question is, though, would he be more likely to replicate brother Bob's tenure at Oklahoma, or Mike's tenure at Arizona?
November 9th, 2014 at 10:19 PM ^
November 9th, 2014 at 7:58 PM ^
I would hate that as much as I hated the Hoke hire. Stoops is years away from being a viable candidate.
November 9th, 2014 at 8:43 PM ^
It would be worse than the Hoke hire. Hiring Mark Stoops would be atrocious. The guy has been coaching for two years. He went 0-8 in the SEC last year and is 2-5 right now (with home wins against 0-6 Vanderbilt and 2-5 South Carolina). Yes, Kentucky is 5-5, but that's only because they've played UT-Martin, Ohio, and UL-Monroe out of conference. Hoke's record wasn't deserving of being hired by Michigan, but he had been a coach of the year in two conferences prior to his hire (the MAC and Mountain West).
The floor for this next hire needs to be set somewhere around a Todd Graham type. I'm confident that someone with Graham's profile/stature or better will agree to come if Michigan pursues hard enough and offers a generous enough contract. Mark Stoops is several steps beneath that floor.
November 9th, 2014 at 7:55 PM ^
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November 9th, 2014 at 8:01 PM ^
Michigan football right now:
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November 9th, 2014 at 8:05 PM ^
LSU is young this year and is still 7-3 in the most stacked Division in a long time... next year they're probably going to be Pre-Season #1... I doubt Miles leaves... That ship probably sailed the last 2 times ago...
Then again who knows.
November 9th, 2014 at 8:09 PM ^
ND returns a lot as does OSU.
November 9th, 2014 at 8:06 PM ^
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November 9th, 2014 at 8:08 PM ^
I'm guessing not. I'm also guessing that you missed the Wetzel article from two days ago. I'm mentioning this because this is the second time a national writer has mentioned Stoops leaving OU.
Is it likely he comes here? No. But it's at least worth discussing.
November 9th, 2014 at 8:24 PM ^
He's kind of run his course at OU. It also adds to the the stuff about Castiglione being an AD target. If Jim Harbaugh wasn't available and Stoops would listen, you'd have to ask.
November 9th, 2014 at 9:58 PM ^
Neather article says anything about Stoops wanting or needing to leave OU. Wenzel actually proclames just the opposite. Money quote from the the Wenzel article: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-michigan-should-call-bob-stoops-232902…
"Stoops isn't looking for a job, of course. He's in his 16th season at Oklahoma, works for an athletic director and a school president who are trusted confidants and makes $5.25 million a year. He's built a legacy. He's synonymous with the program. He's under no pressure – outside of the depths of message board frustration."
Many times articles are just parroted looking for those all imoprtant clicks.
November 9th, 2014 at 10:15 PM ^
November 9th, 2014 at 11:22 PM ^
Because he wouldn't accept the job, or because Michigan wouldn't hire him?
From everything I have read over the last 7 years (grain of salt) it has been repeatedly stated that Les would never say no to Michigan and I think he's now wearing out his welcome in Baton Rouge.
If the Lloyd Carr crowd has any say, then Miles will never get offered. But if Harbaugh says no, then Miles has to be on a very short list. The guy just wins, and he does it in the toughest division in the toughtest conference every year.
Name another coach that Saban struggles beating more than Miles?.....There isn't one. Even when Miles' teams are young and somewhat undisciplined. I think LSU lost that game due to play calling on both sides of the ball more than the head coach.
Graham is younger and more innovative, but Miles is proven in grown man football.
November 9th, 2014 at 8:06 PM ^
but if the people in Norman are stupid enough to shove him out, we'd be crazy not to welcome him with open arms if Harbaugh isn't an option.
And he could bring Castiglione with him.
November 9th, 2014 at 8:19 PM ^
Jerry Montgomery if that hasn't been mentioned yet.
November 10th, 2014 at 11:23 AM ^
And keep Mike Stoops as his DC.
November 9th, 2014 at 8:07 PM ^
/s
/ducks and covers anyway
November 9th, 2014 at 8:07 PM ^
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November 9th, 2014 at 8:10 PM ^
Your comment is completely uninformed. Stoops is an excellent coach who is much, much, much better than Hoke.
How can you write such nonsense?
November 9th, 2014 at 8:23 PM ^
Well, he is using the wrong U-M logo.
November 9th, 2014 at 8:58 PM ^
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November 9th, 2014 at 9:02 PM ^
Who the hell cares? Stoops wins games. End of story.
November 9th, 2014 at 9:04 PM ^
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November 9th, 2014 at 9:18 PM ^
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November 9th, 2014 at 10:12 PM ^
The idea behind bowl games is that you should get matched up against a team that's roughly as good as yours. Going .500 is the expectation. Stoops has been in a ton of major bowl games, which makes an 8-7 record pretty impressive. In order, he's gone to the Independence, Orange (OU's nat'l title year), Cotton, Rose, Sugar, Orange, Holiday, Fiesta, Fiesta, BCS NC Game, Sun, Fiesta, Insight, Cotton, and Sugar. That's damn good. And those were consecutive years -- there weren't any missed bowl games in there.
And do you know what Nick Saban's record is in bowl games? 8-7.
November 9th, 2014 at 11:31 PM ^
Are you out of your mind? Bo's bowl record was 5-12 and Lloyd's was 6-7! Stoops has also won a national title which Bo never did!
November 9th, 2014 at 9:43 PM ^
an authority on Michigan football? Maybe we can ask his opinion on who we should hire.
November 9th, 2014 at 9:58 PM ^
Okie fans have been down on Stoops since those back to back losses to OSU after the championship year.
November 9th, 2014 at 11:25 PM ^
I have lived in Oklahoma for the past 25 years, you are not very informed.
November 9th, 2014 at 8:36 PM ^
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November 9th, 2014 at 9:05 PM ^
10 win seasons in a competitive Big 12 are not at all comparable to 6 and 7 win seasons in a mediocre Big 10. Stoops is a great coach, Hoke is a mid-level HC at best.
November 9th, 2014 at 9:10 PM ^
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November 9th, 2014 at 8:42 PM ^
because he is an Ohio guy. His family along with the Pelini brothers are like coaching fraternity in that state. So his hire from that standpoint might help Michigan land more Ohio kids than it has in recent time while also opening up new recruiting territory in Oklahoma.
I don't think Stoops would necessarily come to Michigan because of his family roots, but I do think Oklahoma is similar to Michigan in football tradition and he has a solid track record.
I would much prefer Jim Harbaugh like everyone else, but Stoops would be an even better backup choice than Mullen because of his career success, which far surpasses Harbaugh. The other interesting thing is that Joe Castiglione, the Oklahoma AD, has been mentioned as a possible Michigan target as Brandon's successor, and he would have the inside knowledge on what Stoops is thinking and whether he might come to Ann Arbor in the event Harbaugh wasn't available.
November 9th, 2014 at 8:49 PM ^
7 million a year at 5 years will get anybody
November 9th, 2014 at 8:58 PM ^
November 9th, 2014 at 8:56 PM ^
He'd be a pretty darn good hire. Recruits well, and usually has pretty good teams. My only problem with him is his teams often fail to live up to pre-season expectations. But he'd definitely make us competitive, and he'd give Meyer and Dantonio a run for their money every year,
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November 9th, 2014 at 9:08 PM ^
Having pre-season expectations would be a welcome thing.
November 9th, 2014 at 8:59 PM ^
but my money would be on him staying South. I think he would more likely tahke the Florida job rather than Michigan. Maybe he can get a crack at the SEC.