Can we have both?

Submitted by erald01 on

So now that Hoke is gone it‘s time to move forward and hopefully Hackett has started to walk to California with a pot of gold under his arm.  As I hear the various candidates, especially JH and Les Miles I was thinking why can‘t we play smart and have both?  You ask how?  Well NFL guys are pretty sure JH will stay in NFL and college guys say he will come back to college so who knows what will actually happen BUT usually billion doallar sports leagues tend to win these kind of fights but will see though.

According to media we all know that JH has that itch to stay in NFL be successful and win a superbowl, but we have also been told that he feels miserable there.  

So I was thinking why not hire Les Miles have him run the programm fort he next 4-5 years until he retires then go and get Harbough.  This way Jim can have another shot in NFL and he will eventually find out that it is not the place for him or he wins a superbowl the next 4-5 years and he would not mind coming back to college and retire as a CFB coach. My fear of hiring him now is that he will always look back to NFL and say what if I had coached another  team….what if I had another shot at the superbowl...what if..

In my opinion this seems like the perfect scenerio and we will have a continuity in the program.  I honestly dont think it‘s hard to accomplish this as long as the department thinks long term.  Two great coaches one after another..how much better can it get…oh wait with our luck who knows.

Whats your take on this idea? 

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Bohannon

December 3rd, 2014 at 9:55 AM ^

Is accpeting the UM job and becoming the savior of Wolverines Football--the capstone being a National Championship in Year 3--on par with winning a Super Bowl?

I think YES.

And Jimmy would be well-suited to return to the NFL at that point.

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maizenbluedevil

December 3rd, 2014 at 9:57 AM ^

Are you suggesting we plan to do this? Like get Miles now and hope harbaugh comes later??

If so, no way. There are no guarantees. If we pass up the chance to et harbaugh now we dot know if well get a chance later so you don't pass that up.



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814 East U

December 3rd, 2014 at 9:57 AM ^

Two egos like that would have similar results as Sean Payton and Rob Ryan. I just don't think it would work. Maybe if Les was 5-7 years older and wanted to step down as a head coach.

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AmishRule

December 3rd, 2014 at 11:22 AM ^

Speaking of Sean Payton. I see he could be a target. His son is a huge Michigan fan. He just went through a divorce and it sounds like he would consider a fresh start. I will add him as number three on my list -- behind John and Jim Harbaugh (yes I would take John before Jim -- I think John would look for a long-term home to raise his family, etc). Either way I want a successful NFL head coach. Something that seperates us (amongst athletes) from Ohio State, Penn State and MSU -- our division rivals.

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Raskolnikov

December 3rd, 2014 at 9:59 AM ^

This would be the second best scenario after getting JH right away. After JH/Les it drops off damn quickly. I just hope that if we do strike out on JH, the anti-Les faction doesn't get its way.

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redsoxaa

December 3rd, 2014 at 10:01 AM ^

If Les came to Michigan he would have at least 10 years in him if things went right.  Only way he would only last 4-5 is if things didn't work out and he decided to retire.

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The_Mad Hatter

December 3rd, 2014 at 10:03 AM ^

thinking something similar.  As much as I would like JH to coach here, I almost feel like they should give it to Les.  He's a proven winner and clearly wants the job.  Both JH's are a bit younger than he is and could transition seamlessly into the job once Les rights the ship.

Alternatively, get Jim, John, and Les all in the same room together.  Give them each the weapon of their choosing.  The last man standing is the new coach.

If they refuse to fight, DeBord gets the job.

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Blue Mike

December 3rd, 2014 at 10:09 AM ^

Yeah, that would be great for Michigan, but completely unrealistic, or terrible.  If Miles is successful here, he isn't going anywhere in 5 years.  If he is successful and does retire in 5 years, more than likely he is picking his successor from a coordinator. Otherwise, for him to leave in 5 years means either failure or mediocrity.

If Jim Harbaugh stays in the NFL and wins a Super Bowl, he is never going back to college.  If he fails in the NFL, is he really the top candidate for this job?

Things line up for Jim Harbaugh to come here now.  They more than likely won't in the future. Don't get greedy, just make the right hire now.

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Everyone Murders

December 3rd, 2014 at 10:37 AM ^

You ask:

If he fails in the NFL, is he really the top candidate for this job?

The answer is probably yes (assuming no major change in what we already know about Harbaugh as a person/coach).  Look, for example, at Nick Saban and Steve Spurrier's poor NFL records.  Those poor records did not seem to hold them back in their current positions.  And Saban and Spurrier both used their return to college to gild their legacies.

 

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Gobgoblue

December 3rd, 2014 at 10:58 AM ^

It even happens with NFL to NFL transitions for coaches.  Jim Caldwell got fired from the Colts after going 2-14, but he's doing pretty well with the Lions.  Tony Dungy got fired from Tampa Bay, then won a superbowl in Indy.  Obviously, Pete Carroll's second go round in the NFL has gone pretty well, too.  

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flashOverride

December 3rd, 2014 at 10:27 AM ^

Let me preface this by saying I will be perfectly thrilled to have Miles. That said, while I agree the incompetence and disorganization that resulted in him not being hired in December, 2007, and Dave Brandon's insulting "consultation" or whatever the hell that was three years later should have been beneath the standards of this athletic department, I don't think there's anyone who deserves to be automatically offered first prior to intense evaluation by Hackett.

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GoWings2008

December 3rd, 2014 at 10:25 AM ^

with some recently emerging prospects for the job, so I'd be curious to know if anyone would have any major knocks against Jim Mora Jr?  The write up in the article I read was somewhat convincing that he'd be a good candidate.

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IncrediblySTIFF

December 3rd, 2014 at 10:26 AM ^

When I came here, I thought this would be a conversation about whether we could have a combination of a good coach that everybody likes and runs a clean program as well as winning games.

The basketball coach does a pretty good job of this, but I would prefer a guy in his early 50s

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AA2Denver

December 3rd, 2014 at 10:30 AM ^

Les will never coach here as long as Carr and Moeller are alive. Read Hackett's comments too. He wants to come here, they don't him. 

I believe Jim H gets offered something near Saban salary with massive incentives to make him the highest paid coach in the country. JH takes the job after January 1st.

 

 

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Kalamazoo Blue

December 3rd, 2014 at 10:49 AM ^

I wouldn't give the job to Miles over Harbaugh now just so Jim can have another few years to get his superbowl ring.

However, if Harbaugh isn't interested now, I might see him coming to home to Michigan later in his coaching career.

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LSAClassOf2000

December 3rd, 2014 at 10:51 AM ^

To me, it seems like Les Miles - mainly due to age - is the stopgap hire in any scenario involving leaving LSU to come to Michigan, so you might get 5-6 years, after which he would likely be on the watchlist for calling it a day in college football.

I think the problem you would run into is the potential trajectory of Harbaugh's career in the interim and the possible waning of any interest he might have now. I would be hesitant to assume that his position on maybe coming to Ann Arbor - whatever it is, if it in fact is - is going to be the same several years down the road. 

More than likely, in a scenario that would bring Miles here, I would imagine the next coach comes from the coordinator ranks, possibly someone on staff at the point he decided to retire. 

Way too much potential for drift / error in this hyopthetical, I would think. 

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