Brady Pallante will be part of '14 Class, no Greyshirt
Per TomVH and many others:
https://twitter.com/TomVH/status/405348672554033152
Good for him, this is probably the upside of missing on Hand, but he gets 4 yrs on scholarship and we have an extra spot in the 15 class.
November 26th, 2013 at 10:01 AM ^
I like this move, get him on campus and allow the coaches to fully concentrate on needs for the '15 class. This may explain the dearth of back-up plans for defensive linemen as the coaches already had one built in.
November 26th, 2013 at 10:01 AM ^
I know some people don't like this offer, but I think Pallante can help us out down the road. He's at least as good as Ryan Glasgow, who's seen a fair amount of playing time.
November 26th, 2013 at 10:06 AM ^
I don't think he's ever going to be a super-star type player, not sure he's athletic enough, but I think he can be the type of player that consistently does his job and helps other players, particularly in the run game. Good use of hands, good leverage, can be solid on the nose or at 3-tech (prefer he grows into a NT though).
I really like him as a prospect.
November 26th, 2013 at 10:35 AM ^
For giving your two cents. Perhaps preemptively your posts will keep people from freaking out about this development. We can hope anyway.
Oh....and good for the kid. That has got to be a pretty exciting thing for a high schooler to hear.
November 26th, 2013 at 11:19 AM ^
The staff felt he was good enough for a scholarship in 2015, they missed out on their top target, go ahead and move the kid up to 2014 and let him start with the team right away. I can't understand why anyone would criticize that logic.....though, at this point there are those that will criticize anything this staff does.
November 26th, 2013 at 11:31 AM ^
Also probably exciting for the parent(s) who won't have a tuition bill to pay.
November 26th, 2013 at 10:41 AM ^
November 26th, 2013 at 10:52 AM ^
Well, here is another former wrestler who did not have a sky-high recruiting profile. Count me in.
November 26th, 2013 at 11:00 AM ^
November 26th, 2013 at 12:21 PM ^
Mike Hart was a 3 star.
November 26th, 2013 at 11:15 AM ^
I wrestled Mike Martin my senior year of high school.
It didn't go well.
November 26th, 2013 at 12:13 PM ^
Pix...or it did not happen!
November 26th, 2013 at 12:19 PM ^
How are you still alive and typing?
November 26th, 2013 at 2:21 PM ^
November 26th, 2013 at 11:45 AM ^
Don't expect Pallante to be Martin because he's a semi-undersized white DT. This will lead to disappointment
November 26th, 2013 at 12:47 PM ^
I'm hoping no-one does this and instead appreciates him for what he brings to the table. I don't think anyone is predicting superstardom, but a quietly effective plugger who uses good technique is a reasonable expectation. Again, I am always about taking a few sleepers per class and like this better thantaking a flyer on a kid the coaches haven't built a relatuionship with.
November 26th, 2013 at 7:56 PM ^
November 26th, 2013 at 2:31 PM ^
i could agree IF he grows into a solid NT or 3DT and develops exceptional technique and instincts to offset his lack of natural ability. theres always role players on teams, more so than stars, and every single guy has a role even if its just busting it on scout team to provide starters with best possible looks. however UM should be recruiting 85 players they envision starting and making an impact ....ie if they do not envision potential of all league player at some point in 4-5 years, whats the point? this team does not need any more ryan glasgows especially via scholarship...they can secure those types of guys just like they did with glasgow and likely could have done with pallente...as walkons. im sure hes a nice kid and hard worker and will bust his butt to play his best and rep UM in respectful manner....but this team needs freaks on DL, not undersized walkon type DT's that hoke dreams of turning into rob renes 2.0....this kid has a ceiling and its likely in sight, they need beasts with pro type potential at DT and rush end. weve all watched this DL this year....they need athletes to rush the passer and dominate 1on1s in run game. championship teams usually roll out deep rotation of draft-caliber DL men - take a look at FSU's DL this year or any team down south. this team is not talented enough or deep enough to offer schollies to hope and prayer projects like this kid....if they can bring in big athletic kids to win 1on1 matchups and alter games then several years from now hoke will have the luxury of extending scholarships to kids that wouldve walked on (or secure equally talented prospect via walk on). his program is not humming and recruiting like bama or FSU and until they at least compete with MSU and OSU on regular basis, then they need to view all 85 scholarships as the precious commodities they truly are and award accordingly....they already got guys like hollowell and richardson and rawls and hayes, etc that likely will never offer the contributions necessary on champtionship caliber teams. if league titles are the minimum goal with national title aspirations then this program needs as many genetic mistakes as possible...teach the insanely athletic kids to play with technique and heart.....increasing overall team athleticism and speed certainly improves chances of winning more than tyring to find "effort" and "technique" peoples champions and signing multiple low ceiling walkon types. maybe they view this kid as part of the answer on the DL, maybe he solves part of the "we will rush 4" enigma, maybe they envision pallente as a multi-year starter and potential all league type player....maybe im completely wrong, but championship teams usually win bc they have more difference makers and pros on the field than the opponent, particularly at positions like DL where impact guys can just shred or at least completely alter an opponents gameplan (sure they must execute to succeed as a whole - but consistently beating the guy across from you and winning majority of 1on1s is the idea) ....and considering the current roster does not include many pro prospects (maybe the RS and true frosh end up becoming beasts, maybe not, but you need to go out regardless and recruit the next year as if they will all become busts - at least thats what championship teams do, they NEVER settle) they would be better served bringing in as many quick twitch problems as possible rather than the 6'1" 270 lb marginallly athletic walkon "technician" types who are a dime a dozen. good for this kid, congrats to him, this post is not directed at him, god bless him for snatching up an almost priceless scholarship opportunity....more directed at hoke and staff who needed all the help they could get when they offered him like 2 yrs ago and shockingly still need all the help they can get. i hope he ends up being rob renes 2.0 but the chances are slim....ill root for him regardless of my thoughts but my thoughts remain that they have enough regular "guys" on this squad like ash and heitzman and beyer and glasgow, etc.....need more "freaks" that can win 1on1 matchups against OSU, not just "guys" that will play the correct technique and maintain scheme integrity without ever dominating (other than the flashes of great "competing" and "physicalness" vs UMs OL in practice)
November 26th, 2013 at 10:15 AM ^
Is Pallante in the mold of Rob Renes, Grant Bowman, Norman Heuer, Will Johnson, or Jeremy Van Alstyne in talent level and physical attributes?
November 26th, 2013 at 10:26 AM ^
Of those guys, I think Will Johnson would be a good comparison. But honestly, I look at Pallante and see a slower Mike Martin. Martin's quickness off the ball has been unmatched by a Michigan defensive tackle in the time I've been watching the team, so that's a high bar to live up to, and Pallante isn't known for his speed. But his leverage, size, the way he moves, etc. remind me of Martin a lot. More of a plugger than a penetrator, whereas Martin could do both.
November 26th, 2013 at 10:37 AM ^
If he's even a rough facsimile of Martin, that will help the DL immensely.
November 26th, 2013 at 10:40 AM ^
Both were champion wrestlers, and both MOVE like wrestlers.
November 26th, 2013 at 11:06 AM ^
November 26th, 2013 at 11:12 AM ^
Taylor was a wrestler, and yeah, he's probably a pretty solid comparison...although again, I don't think Pallante is quite that athletic. Taylor wasn't known for his athleticism, but he was still good enough to be a mid-round NFL draft pick.
November 26th, 2013 at 11:47 AM ^
Any thoughts if this is prompted as some stated because of losing Hand or is this maybe connected with Pipkins?
Looks like Henry is a rising talent so if this kid can develop and be something akin to Mike Martin starting next fall (not playing but in line for that position) then has there been a determination about Pipkins?
November 26th, 2013 at 12:23 PM ^
He has an injury, he'll be back next year. The coaches love him, and he was playing well. He's the starting NT in 2014 and key reason why we should be excited by the DL next year
November 26th, 2013 at 12:32 PM ^
I think Pipkins will be back once he recovers from his torn ACL.
I think the coaches were counting on/leaving room for Hand. Now that Hand is gone and Jhonny Williams closed the door, this seems like a reaction to those developments.
November 26th, 2013 at 11:45 AM ^
Renes is the guy I see, along with Jason Horn - they were around when Hoke was here before and had similar size to Pallante. Renes even got drafted to the NFL despite limited size.
Comparing Pallante to bigger 4-star recruits like Martin and Johnson doesn't fit as well to me. Poggi's profile reminds me of Johnson a little bit though.
Horn and Renes- these guys were the block-eating pluggers Hoke goes to bed dreaming about, and Pallante can be another one.
November 26th, 2013 at 12:35 PM ^
Will Johnson did not play like a 4-star, so I think the comparison is apt. He was mainly a solid backup and forgettable starter, except for the fact that he could bench press a Mack truck.
November 26th, 2013 at 12:56 PM ^
The results (role player/backup) may be the same but the style of play will be different. Johnson was strong, but as a taller guy, he can't play the way that the stockier 6'1 guys do, even if the production is similar in the end.
To me, it's less about star-rankings (Johnson was a big time recruit) as it is about size (he was 6'4 or 6'5). But I do believe that the star rankings can matter too. The same way that you like to have walk-ons at FB who are willing to 'shrink' for not much glory, you want (well, Hoke wants) to have some block-eating pluggers at DT. who are happy to fall into people, grab hold of a pulling linemen, and battle under the pile. It's less likely that a highly regarded kid (e.g., Will Campbell) with NFL dreams will embrace that role, IMO.
November 26th, 2013 at 10:49 AM ^
Thanks Magnus. Hey, you can do well for any defense by simply doing your job and using sound technique. Heininger did well for us in that regard. Always a spot for guys like that.
And welcome Brady Pallante to the class of 2014! Congratulations!
November 26th, 2013 at 11:05 AM ^
His floor is Glasgow and his Ceiling is Renes?!
November 26th, 2013 at 11:08 AM ^
November 26th, 2013 at 1:15 PM ^
November 26th, 2013 at 1:51 PM ^
Nobody has said he's the next Mike Martin.
November 26th, 2013 at 2:00 PM ^
November 26th, 2013 at 10:02 AM ^
So that puts '14 up to 16 now, correct? How many more are we realistically looking at?
November 26th, 2013 at 10:05 AM ^
From my understanding, like 50 kids are going to transfer the moment the Ohio State game ends. So, we've got plenty of open spots.
/Sources
November 26th, 2013 at 10:07 AM ^
Damn it!
November 26th, 2013 at 10:12 AM ^
You're crazy.
What's really happening is that the entire UM football program is shutting down, with the assets being stripped and distributed among the rest of the conference.
The one part that's staying is Brandon, who is eagerly looking forward to leasing the stadium for Beyoncé concerts, tractor pulls, monster truck events, rodeos, motorcross, and re-enactments of the Hunger Games. The Wow Factor will be off the charts.
November 26th, 2013 at 10:15 AM ^
No, you are crazy! That is a move of a private equity guy not David Brandon. First they'd load the athletic department with debt, take tons of fees for themselves, cut benefits and salaries for everyone else not named "themselves", then sell it off in pieces while generating massive fees for their buddies at Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs. Sheesh, David Brandon is just an ex-CEO - he'd prefer just to IPO the Michigan Athletic Department, take most of his pay in stock options and live happily ever after increasing revenue by 10% a year.... don't get all Mitt Romney on us.
/self ban for politics
November 26th, 2013 at 11:43 AM ^
Can we have a tractor pull with monster trucks, in the middle of a rodeo on motorcross bikes during a Beyone concert which is a musical re-enactment of the Hunger Games?
Think of the synergy!
November 26th, 2013 at 10:11 AM ^
BiSB = Ace Williams?
November 26th, 2013 at 10:23 AM ^
Blue in South Bend? More like Blue in Truth Bend!
/High-fives self, tells many friends of great internet burn he bestowed upon another this morning.
November 26th, 2013 at 10:31 AM ^
Nope. Bizzzbee is a demon spawn hybrid of Ace Williams and Jason Whitlock! He probably also has a political ideology that we should all argue about and I guarantee he thinks we should FIRE THE BORGESES!
Show us your sources!
November 26th, 2013 at 11:51 AM ^
For making me smile
November 26th, 2013 at 10:26 AM ^
I believe that is correct. If Pallante is in the 2014 class, then that would make 2 DTs, 1 DE, 4 LBs and 2 DBs (Peppers being in that group), if I am not mistaken. I had thought that there was some chatter about this class could be anything from 16 to 20, but I am not sure. It cannot be too many more in any case, I would think.
November 26th, 2013 at 10:21 AM ^
Good for him.
I have to wonder: Does this suggest that McDowell probably won't be part of the class?
November 26th, 2013 at 10:24 AM ^
Nah, probably just that Hand/Williams won't.