Boomers Not Taking This Seriously
My Mother-in-law left Friday for Florida for three weeks with her sister to use her timeshare. They are 70 and will be 1000 miles from home with no support in what is likely the worst state in America to be in right now. This is despite their children begging them not to go.
I have heard from other friends that their Boomer parents are also not taking this as seriously as they should given a possible 6-10% death rate for that cohort. I know users of this blog are all ages, but lots of us have parents in that age group, are your parents taking this seriously?
March 24th, 2020 at 11:24 AM ^
My boomer parents are taking this very seriously. It often comes down to individuals, as opposed to generations.
March 24th, 2020 at 11:26 AM ^
As well as where those individuals are getting their news.
Such a stupid comment, my in laws are as liberal as can possibly be, they are 75 and they aren't taking it seriously. Stop with this dumb rhetoric. CNN, MSNBC are just as slanted as fox. Take off your liberal glasses and stop that nonsense. Just look at Jack Tapper on CNN not fact checking his sources on Sunday and spreading false rumors from Dem rep Alexandria Cortez he didn't stop her from lying on air, he just went with it because she is a democrat. They are all slanted, it's just weather you agree with their political ideals.
First off - Fox news in a whole different league from any of the other networks in terms of spreading misinformation.
Second off - no one should be watching network news. It's all shit. Read a newspaper for better (not perfect) information. And know the difference between news and editorials.
NPR is a decent source as well. I prefer non profit media whenever possible.
NPR is the worst
NPR is a very good source, I’m not sure why you think that ?
Also , the 630 pm network news channels (cbs, abc, and nbc) are also good new sources for the most part despite what people think
Whether your local network news is good or not depends on who owns it. See e.g. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/4/2/17189302/sinclair-broadcast-fake-news-biased-trump-viral-video
Correct, there are exceptions to any rule.
Any coincidence that Liberty is currently reversing course and having students and faculty return to campus?
Yeah! Fuck Christians. Those dirty Fox News watching scoundrels do nothing for society. Especially the conservative ones. We need more central government, more taxes, free healthcare, and free college to make people smarter. Fuck corporations too. I say tax the shit of them, raise the minimum wage. We should also eliminate the electoral college so that NY and LA can decide every election. Amirite?!?! Am I doing this right? Someone help?!?
Oof. This guy thinks having Wyoming votes worth 4x as much as NY votes in a presidential election and 50x as much in the senate is the way to go, and justifies it by saying otherwise NYC and LA, with a combined population of 12 million, will decide an election in a country of 327 million. Do better.
If electoral votes were handed out only by number of citizens this might be fair BUT the census includes non US citizens and California has a heavy population of non citizens giving them additional electoral votes even though the population giving them the extra allocation can't even vote.
I wonder if the person that downvoted this would care to elaborate? Is it factually incorrect? Or do you think (indirectly) giving non-citizens a vote is right? Serious question.
Somehow the people complaining about illegal immigrant numbers propping up votes point to California and not Texas. Funny how that works.
I personally am conflicted on this having lived in both rural and populous states. On the one hand, in theory electoral votes count as a representative sample of the us citizen population in a state. If only 1/4 of that population votes, their vote represents the whole.
However when states (like most do) cast all their electoral votes for the candidate who wins the popular vote in that state, that misrepresents and disenfranchises the losing vote in the state.
So if all states split their electoral votes like Maine does, roughly along the percentages of the popular vote in the state, that best represents the will of both losing and winning popular vote percentages in the state.
While it is still possible the aggregate nationally would not align with the popular vote, it would more closely align with the representative will of the population across the country.
i.e., the problem with the current system is winner take all at the state level misrepresents the popular vote in each state
AND remove or align electoral votes to the national popular vote, misrepresents the popular vote in each state
I guess if we removed the electoral college, the only way for a state to get their fair share of influence would be to push for voter turnout.
As for Senators - they exist for a good reason (tyranny of populous states), and are elected by popular vote
Yes, fuck every corrupt person, business and non-profit...just so happens most of the corruption is currently in the WH and on the right side of the aisle.
Almost all MSM is polarized and opinionated, but not everything is about left and right. Getting all your news from snarky memes and clickbait shares for example, is a bad idea too.
What did she say? Seriously, if this is true we need to know.
Did I say "get your news from CNN"?
Some cable news stations have taken this more seriously from the beginning than others but I wouldn't recommend anybody getting their news or forming their opinions based on what they're told on television.
Unfortunately, Boomers for the most part (obviously there are exceptions) don't know how to source their information any other way.
Also, it's "Jake" Tapper and "whether."
By the way, I'm not a liberal, I just hate Trump and all those who protect him stand for.
Wow did you read a lot into that comment. Arent you actually agreeing with him? Really defensive for a general statement, and to put him into a box as well?
100% accurate. But you’ll never get a valid discussion on this blog. It’s majority base is very very leftist.
It’s why I rarely ever comment.
when someone says that Fox (which is definitely bias and has an obvious political leaning) is on a whole other level you know the discussion is over. They are blinded by their own political biases and cannot see anything beyond their own foundation they’ve created.
mainstream media is corrupted so badly that anyone saying that there is a shred of credible journalism is full of it.
MSNBC and CNN are horrible, and at the moment CNN is the king of sensationalized media.
If anyone is on another level it’s them at the moment. Fox held that crown at one point but these things are cyclical.
people have been trained by a very left leaning journalistic Environment that one is better than the other.
untraining people is hard.
most are married to cognitive dissonance.
They also follow the herd.
You have to disregard who owns what companies because their own political leanings are irrelevant in most cases when it comes to the media bias.
this country is culturally more left than ever before and the media of all kinds reflects that.
You don’t have to be a right winger to understand that. However in America people inevitably think if you disagree with one side you must automatically be on the other.
I think they are all bad in different ways. I don’t favor one political party over the other. They are both failed institutions and the cultures that surround them have both had eras where one was worse than the other.
Right now I feel like the tribalism in America is so thick that we may never find a way back to a place where the social discourse is open again for rational discussion and contextual honesty.
Just had to thumbs up ezmikep, spot on. It amazes me with so many clearly intelligent members on this board that your exact statement isn’t the overwhelming majority opinion
March 25th, 2020 at 11:08 PM ^
Their is a lot of truth in this comment...... and yet the downvotes tell everyone how terribly biased this entire board is towards one political party.
Thankfully this board does not speak for a lot of the country and is essentially just an echo chamber with lots of confirmation bias.
March 24th, 2020 at 11:41 AM ^
My boomer mom is freaked out, and my boomer dad was being so wreckless for a while I thought he was trying to expose himself to it just so he could prove it wasn't as bad as everyone says.
He also watches Fox News 24 hours a day. I'm sure that's just a coincidence.
Thankfully he's wisened up this week.
March 24th, 2020 at 12:00 PM ^
I love how everyone thinks that their news source (Fox, CNN, NYT, etc.) is true and pure and everybody else is listening to propaganda. You are all fucking wrong. It's all slanted in the direction that you want it to be. So stop.
March 24th, 2020 at 12:03 PM ^
This is dangerously wrong
March 24th, 2020 at 12:18 PM ^
It says right in the tag-line, fox is fair and balanced.
March 24th, 2020 at 12:48 PM ^
They retired that lie a couple years ago. Pity, really... as you can no longer see the graphic claiming "Fair & Balanced" on the same screen as others claiming every liberal is a traitor trying to destroy the nation.
(I used to work there, so I saw this a lot more than the average person who never watches their propaganda.)
Wait...who's claiming those that don't agree with them politically are traitors? This is getting very confusing.
March 24th, 2020 at 12:14 PM ^
Relax
March 24th, 2020 at 12:19 PM ^
Don’t do it
March 24th, 2020 at 12:57 PM ^
When you want to go to it
March 24th, 2020 at 12:21 PM ^
I guess I prefer the slant where people don't needlessly die to prop up the stock market.
Except people are actually dying, in an effort to create chaos and tank the market. You figure out who might have the most to gain.
March 24th, 2020 at 12:42 PM ^
I won't comment on Fox News in general, but politics aside, it is simply an indisputable fact that Fox News was the only major network to downplay the threat of the coronavirus for weeks. Most but not all of the network has performed a 180 which is good.
To be fair to Tucker Carlson, he was way out in front of the coronavirus back in late January when none of the other networks were really covering it, I thought he was playing it up myself...
And that article is from the left-leaning washington post.
I don't watch any other fox news shows so didn't know the rest of them were in denial.
March 24th, 2020 at 12:55 PM ^
Agreed 100% yossarians. It's literally impossible to remove all bias and ALL the major networks have significant flaws. Check several sources with contrasting perspectives, then find some truth for yourself. If you don't have time for that get your US news from an international source.
They all have flaws but the magnitude of flaws aren't even fucking close. The commentary part of Fox News especially is straight up propaganda.
March 24th, 2020 at 12:56 PM ^
That "both sides" argument is why are comfortable in being wrong. Facts are facts.
March 24th, 2020 at 10:38 PM ^
All media has it's own biases, to say otherwise ignores the long & rich history of newspapers.
March 24th, 2020 at 12:37 PM ^
I watch Fox News and they keep telling me to stay home. They have from the beginning. Also is it a coincidence that the hardest hit states, Washington, California and New York are liberal strong holds? I guess that's Fox News' fault.
March 24th, 2020 at 12:44 PM ^
Idk maybe that's where population is densest????
No dude, Trump told us all that the "countries" of Idaho, Nebraska, and Iowa haven't been hit as hard.
That's because they aren't liberal. Nothing to do with cornfields and dirt between houses.
March 24th, 2020 at 12:49 PM ^
"They have from the beginning."
Selective memory or too immature to admit that your preferred network was wrong.
"Washington, Cali, NY..."
Wait so the fact these places contain dense, populous cities that are more connected to the outer world is a bigger factor than politics? Incredible.
Could be related to the NYC health commissioner tweeting out on Feb 9th regarding a parade celebrating the lunar new year in Chinatown “ I want to remind everyone to get out and enjoy the parade and not change any plans due to misinformation spreading about #coronavirus” or Mark D Levine (city council) tweeting “ in a powerful show of defiance at #coronavirus scare, huge crowds gathering outside Chinatown . If your staying home your missing out”
great advice
Could be related to the NYC health commissioner tweeting out on Feb 9th regarding a parade celebrating the lunar new year in Chinatown “ I want to remind everyone to get out and enjoy the parade and not change any plans due to misinformation spreading about #coronavirus” or Mark D Levine (city council) tweeting “ in a powerful show of defiance at #coronavirus scare, huge crowds gathering outside Chinatown . If your staying home your missing out”
great advice
My phone sucks
March 24th, 2020 at 12:50 PM ^
You must have started watching Fox News in March.
March 24th, 2020 at 12:53 PM ^
Honestly not sure exactly what fox news said, but conservative messaging - on that channel and in the white house - consistently understated the risk. Fair to say that this was evidence of that: https://www.npr.org/2020/03/17/816501871/poll-as-coronavirus-spreads-fewer-americans-see-pandemic-as-a-real-threat?t=1585068229933
And so is this: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/23/opinion/coronavirus-economy-recession.html
You must be trolling with the NYC comment.
Yeah, OK. Really starting to think that you’re a Russian troll.