AP: Big Ten programs collaborated to decode and share Michigan's signs, potentially violating Big Ten sportsmanship policy
https://apnews.com/article/michigan-sign-stealing-452b6a83bb0d0a3707f633af72fe92ac
"A former employee at a Big Ten football program said Monday it was his job to steal signs and he was given details from multiple league schools to compile a spreadsheet of play-calling signals used by Michigan last year.
The employee said he recently shared the documents, which showed the Wolverines’ signs and corresponding plays — as well as screenshots of text-message exchanges with staffers at other Big Ten schools — with Michigan. He spoke with The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because he feared the disclosures could impact his coaching career.
The spreadsheet was compiled with details from a handful of coaches and programs across the Big Ten, the person said. He also said gave the details to Michigan last week because he hoped it would help Jim Harbaugh’s embattled program and he believes Harbaugh and his coaches are being unfairly blamed for the actions of a rogue staffer.
The alleged actions by conference schools potentially violate the Big Ten’s sportsmanship policy, which could lead to punishment by the commissioner’s office."
November 6th, 2023 at 4:20 PM ^
Well, well, well.
November 6th, 2023 at 4:21 PM ^
To the other 13 schools: You could've told Michigan you had Conor's ticket records and kept things in house.
You could have told the NCAA in the long off-season.
You could have said "unfortunate situation, glad he's suspended now"
But no, you did what you did. And now? We're going for two, because we couldn't go for three.
November 6th, 2023 at 4:25 PM ^
Boom!!! Well said!!
November 6th, 2023 at 4:28 PM ^
They overplayed their hand. They doth protested too much.
It's going to backfire spectacularly. And I am HERE FOR IT.
If Michigan goes down, we're taking all of you losers with us.
November 6th, 2023 at 4:34 PM ^
They should mess up B1G, win a NC and leave the conference.
November 6th, 2023 at 4:21 PM ^
So it appears that the mob, screaming for Action, has already taken Action on its own behalf. Let's label this Exhibit A in the Due Process Exists for Reasons file.
November 6th, 2023 at 4:21 PM ^
Is this part where I'm supposed to pretend to be outraged or surprised?
Maybe we can return to just kicking everyone's ass because our football team is freaking aMAIZing! Ryan Day is a soft, worthless, underachieving crybaby. I'm growing more and more confident that his punishment will come from his own fanbase when this whole thing is over.
November 6th, 2023 at 4:22 PM ^
god i hope there is way more where this came from
Edit: and it will have to be since the article is extremely vague and doesn't name any names. hope it's the tip of the iceberg.
November 6th, 2023 at 4:22 PM ^
It's about time people start calling out the obvious.
November 6th, 2023 at 4:29 PM ^
I mean it's literally out of their playbook. It is but the first drip. A teaser for more to come.
Hey, if that's what they wanted to do to harm Michigan, then it's fair game the other way too...right?
November 6th, 2023 at 4:31 PM ^
This is just turning back the initial offensive. The main action is elsewhere I suspect.
But it's important to turn around the "sign stealing" angle first or it will keep people's attention.
November 6th, 2023 at 5:08 PM ^
Has any of the articles had names in them?
November 6th, 2023 at 4:22 PM ^
Game fucking on.
So happy that for once in my life my alma mater is NOT taking shit laying down and is fighting back HARD. My guess is nobody expected we would because we never had before.
The postgame "handshake" between Day & Harbaugh is going to be must-see TV.
November 6th, 2023 at 4:36 PM ^
especially if we best them by three scores, again.
November 6th, 2023 at 4:45 PM ^
You mean when we best them by 3 scores!
November 6th, 2023 at 4:50 PM ^
Ono should hang the Fab 5 banners too.
November 6th, 2023 at 4:58 PM ^
If Ono did hung the banners, personally, standing on top of a scissor lift, I would pay to see that
November 6th, 2023 at 5:13 PM ^
It should be with a Fab5 reunion.
November 6th, 2023 at 4:22 PM ^
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.
Fuck Ohio State. And MSU too.
November 6th, 2023 at 4:39 PM ^
and to a lesser degree Purdue and Illinois.
November 6th, 2023 at 5:34 PM ^
And also Penn State.
November 6th, 2023 at 4:23 PM ^
Turn this thread into a Posbang. Let’s go.
November 6th, 2023 at 4:23 PM ^
Timely
November 6th, 2023 at 4:24 PM ^
It is not a good day to be named Ryan. Your heads are about to roll
November 6th, 2023 at 4:24 PM ^
Congrats Blackbeard -
you opened Pandoras Box you pathetic fuckhole. Shits about to get real.
November 6th, 2023 at 4:25 PM ^
I hope all of the sanctimonious assholes living in glass houses have basements
November 6th, 2023 at 4:25 PM ^
Because OF COURSE they did!
November 6th, 2023 at 4:25 PM ^
Cue Thamel et. al. changing their language from "sign stealing" to "in person scouting".
November 6th, 2023 at 4:26 PM ^
Did they record these signs and send staff to dozens of games? I don’t think it said that?
November 6th, 2023 at 4:31 PM ^
Can we just cut your head off and be done with it?
November 6th, 2023 at 5:19 PM ^
No, two grow back.
November 6th, 2023 at 4:34 PM ^
You're a troll and an unserious person.
You honestly think there's a difference between using an iPhone from the stands versus receiving another team's fully decoded signs? Actually, now that I think about it, this is much worse. Stallions used a third-party's iPhone's footage and then (possibly) had to decode the signals himself. Here, other teams were getting the Cliff Notes at the same times they were getting our signs. Go back to RCMB, or 11 Excuse-Making-Softies.
November 6th, 2023 at 4:35 PM ^
Yep, the inevitable asshole (this asshole) showed up. Not a big-picture guy, are you?
November 6th, 2023 at 4:37 PM ^
I don’t really care either way. Just confused by the outrage over this but the dismissal of Michigan’s allegations. If 5 teams are found to have cheated and stole signs that goes against the rules, then they should be punished (including Michigan).
November 6th, 2023 at 4:47 PM ^
WHOOSH x several.
November 6th, 2023 at 4:56 PM ^
Backtrack all you want. You come on this Board to troll. You're a troll. Your points lack any real substance.
Sign stealing has ALWAYS happened. The rule against off-campus scouting explicitly was created for financial reasons, not anti-cheating. Coaches sharing signs between one another is worse on its face than Connor Stallions with his buddy's iPhone footage.
If you're so big on honesty, as you claim, tell us which team you support for real. I'd at least respect that. Stop playing the troll game.
November 6th, 2023 at 5:01 PM ^
You are being purposefully obtuse.
November 6th, 2023 at 5:15 PM ^
The only outrage here is in the hypocrisy
November 6th, 2023 at 5:20 PM ^
Just confused
Clearly.
November 6th, 2023 at 5:53 PM ^
You aren't confused.
Just a shit head.
How do you feel hanging around here all the time... and the fact that the powers that be allow you to do so? Small, I should think.
November 6th, 2023 at 7:33 PM ^
We're not outraged. Nobody should be outraged over all this age-old gamesmanship. Especially 13 Big Ten coaches and ADs that participate in it. So sit down and shut up.
November 6th, 2023 at 4:36 PM ^
Troll
November 6th, 2023 at 8:11 PM ^
BOLIVIA TIME!
November 6th, 2023 at 4:26 PM ^
The real question we have to answer now is....
Who was coaching Nebraska while Frost was putting together these spreadsheets?
November 6th, 2023 at 4:49 PM ^
Scott’s mom. Duh.
November 6th, 2023 at 4:26 PM ^
This raises an interesting question. Does requesting or obtaining a future opponent's signals from another team violate the NCAA rule on in-person advance scouting?
November 6th, 2023 at 4:29 PM ^
You bring up a great point. If getting info from random freelance videographers violates it, how about getting info from the other teams in the conference? That's wayyy worse from a sportsmanship standpoint.
November 6th, 2023 at 5:06 PM ^
And, if he reason for the existence of the anti-scouting rule was purportedly to prevent resource-rich teams from gaining an unfair advantage, isn't collusion by a group against another team much worse?
November 6th, 2023 at 6:02 PM ^
And these are already deciphered signs. Not just raw cell phone video from 60 yards away.
November 6th, 2023 at 4:43 PM ^
This is a great point Wallaby. If using 3rd parties to in-person scout is against the rules, then the sharers conspired with the "sharees" (?) to violate the rule so long as the sharer gleaned the info during his game with Michigan.