alternate headline: man does job
aOSU names 8(?) captains
never makes any sense to me - what good is being a captain after your opportunity to lead is over with?
Why do you have to be named/voted a captain in order to lead? One should be a leader BEFORE receiving the distinction of captaincy.
Which is why I never really got upset over the Rich Rod thing. The guys in the locker room know who the captains are...who the leaders are. Everything else is for media guides and record books. Look at us...99% of this board KNEW Devin, Lewan and T. Gordon were the 3 captains. The locker room felt differently. I don't really worry about that crap. Hell, the QB or PG is always a captain on some teams, that's bullshit...your position doesn't make you a leader of a team. Your actions do.
To much leadership is a bad thing. And none of these guys are official captains. They will be voted on after the season. Ahhhhhhh... Urban likes taking after Rich Rod. Hi defense might play like one too.
So, 8 = disaster. Maybe Urban needs a Seal Leadership course, but then again, not.
So the new Circle of Trust has been formed?
Isn't this basically what RR tried to do initially?
but since it is, Rich Rod did the Pop Warner honorary captains for each game thing, and then I think they named permanent ones at the end of the season in 2008 and 2009. In 2010 the Senoir class decided to name full season captains.
Not eveything he did was bad. I liked some things he did: the Victors Walk, more open CTK videos, etc.
Revolving leadership is a bad idea.
I hope they all make the travel team.
The circle of trust is rather small these days, only 8?
aOSU? Is that a thing now?
I thought I was out of the loop for not knowing...now I feel better. Thank you.
i really hope that's a typo.
I seriously want someone to explain this.
It is something I have said for years to my business partner who has two degrees from Ohio. Sorry, I guess I should join the team and use the proper vernacular. There are 13 "state" funded universities in Ohio. I have always found it quite grandiose of them to accentuate that they are "The" Ohio state university. Hence, the "a" as in "an".
I respectfully apologize for this deviance from the norm. Never again shall this letter flow from my fingers in such close approximation to the capital letter "O". Please have mercy upon my internet soul.
I enjoyed it. Don't feel bad that some of your audience didn't get it.
A state university of ohio. Fixed.
By all means please continue to do so. Please don't take my post as being mean to you. I actually think this is brilliantly subtle and I LOVE IT!
Ditto. I figured it out and loved it.
That post and especially the comments encapsulates one of the key differences between our fan bases.Michigan names 4 captains and some fans are for it, some questioning why there are so many. There's a difference of opinion, there's debate. Here there is virtually unanimous gushing over what a great idea this is. It's almost as though an Ohio State coach could lie through his teeth to the NCAA, reporters, and the president of the university and they would bring him back to a hero's welcome with nary a soul daring to object.
While there is definitely a bit of a groupthink mentality hear, there is some discussion and dissention. I check 11W occasionally because I like to know what's going on in opponent land and they seem to all gush over whatever Meyer does. Every choice he makes must be the best because he is UFM. They recently found out that their future game at VT is going to be on a Monday and everyone loved the idea for the exposure and being the only game on. I expected to read a bunch of dissent over the shame of playing Monday and such but there was none of it.
i dont really agree with this. with the stupid upvoting/downvoting obsession on this board, i feel that people with other opinions are cast to a corner.
with the upvoting/downvoting gone, it has improved
we can't get voting back fast enough.
He's absolutely right, I just don't think he articulated it well. Most of the time, a dissenting opinion is simply negged around here. Hitting -1 has turned into a vehicle for expressing a disagreement with a concept. Instead of offering a counterpoint, people would just -1 the post, which does not lend to a meaningful discussion.
Perfect world? I would say something similar to SBNation. Only upvotes count. The lack of upvotes would serve the same purpose as a downvote. However, if you disagree with the point, it doesn't allow the mechanism to anonymously neg the person. If you want to further the dialogue, you need to reply with a rebuttal. It still allows for post moderation, but does not cheapen the discussion by allowing a cop out style disagreement.
comment to hell . . . if we could.
I am an Internet tough guy and ALL dissent will be silenced with crowd-think-negbomb shock and awe .
to punish people for flaming/trolling without punishing people for disagreeing. Ideally, this system wouldn't call for a mod each and every time, as would be the case without any self-moderation (the status quo, or the SBNation system). The previous system of simply collapsing trolling posts failed because legitimate, unpopular viewpoints were too easy to collapse, forcing people to read all collapsed posts for the chance to moderate them above that threshold. This defeats the purpose of collapsing them in the first place.
With the points system, you do get unfair punishment of unpopular viewpoints, but everyone can judge for themselves whether the post is legitimate or trolling. So the points system is still preferred, but self-moderation needs to be something all users are willing to honestly enforce or else we allow Groupthink to take over. Ideally, negs would be flagged with an adjective similar to the previous system, but without including "overrated" since that is too generic.
Take your crap back to MLive.
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Anybody not voted captain spends a night in the box.
I don't know, but rumor has it Maurice Clarett can eat fifty eggs.
Is this a Toy Story 3 reference?
Or I thought they may need 8 for some who legally "drop off" during the year. Like having reserves! good idea!
In fact, each player not arrested was named captain. It's the stock reward for an off-season of good behavior.
makes since for them.
Yep. Total since.
Then Ocean's 11,12 and 13; now the crazy 8. This should be titled Name That Cap-tune or Eight is Enough, Maybe.
One for each word:
Like Air Force and BYU, the captains will have nouns or verbs on their jerseys instead of their names. Which Buckeye is "Decisions?" Which is "stealing?"
8 is right. You need to realize that honesty and respect don't apply here.
Dangit, you're right. How could I have not seen that?
Instead of having a "C" stitched to his jersey, each captain will have a "C" tattooed on each arm.
"The Scarlet Letter." Yikes.
8 captains because attrition will set in as the arrests pile up.
urb just started on the twitters @osucoachmeyer. We should all just ask him about his captians ourselves
that he doesn't have any captians.
we will find out that their captaincy was not a committable offer.
don't hold anything back
I agree. "To hell with [Ohio]." Just clicked on the thread because I was interested into why we were supposed to be interested and didn't find anything of substance.
Off-topic...Rivalry be damned, but I am one of the few M fans that could care less if Ohio (the football program not the entire university or state) fell off the face of the planet and ceased to exist.
EDIT: Not saying that people shouldn't post stories about Ohio. I love the First Amendment, and it's just a football blog fergawdsakes. Just saying I don't understand why people actually care about every Ohio story.
Your comment states "why should we even care" but your sig says "but we all hate O-S-U."
If you really hate them, you will take every good opportunity to ridicule them.
If you really don't even care, then change your sig.
To me, there is a difference between hating and acting like an obsessed ex-girlfriend who can't let go. Frankly, I don't post all that much and forgot what my signature even says.
Not gonna lie, it is coming off a bit "little brother-ish" to dissect every single thing OSU does. "OMG they named 8 captains!! That's the difference between us and them. We would never do something so atrocious." I mean I know I don't have to click on these posts but it is nice to come here and read about things other than how bad of a guy Urban Meyer is.
Because they are part of the fellowship of the ring.
One doesn't just simply walk into Ann Arbor.
Granted, they do have to plan for attrition due to arrests.
8 Ohio State football players have just been formally initiated into the Urban Meyer Circle of Trust.
I love that their program can't decide where their leadership is coming from. It means they don't have any.
Well, we know there must be at least 8 bubble butts on their team, because we all know how Urbz likes his players with a little junk in the trunk.
Urbz likes big butts and he cannot lie.
7′s the key number here. Think about it. 7-Elevens. 7 doors. 7, man, that’s the number. 7 chipmunks twirlin’ on a branch, eatin’ lots of sunflowers on my uncle’s ranch. You know that old children’s tale from the sea. It’s like you’re dreamin’ about Gorgonzola cheese when it’s clearly Brie time, baby.
Had to log in to rec this. This is high quality mockery from my rival.
They were originally going to go with 4 but since they "don't play school" at OSU they ended up with 8.
Going from a feature-leader system to a platoon-style system. Not my first choice but what do I know!!
Who weren't part of the 8 feel?
Like there is a captain for position groups. QBs, RBs, WRs, OL, DL, LB, DB, special teams? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Either that or they're having some leadership issues. I'm personally hoping for the latter. It'll make it easier for them to implode. And that would be excellent.
Edit: strange, it saved this in the wrong spot.
There are plenty of dudes over there saying WTF? about this.
I really don't care if they have 8, 80, or 0.8 captains, as long as we kick their ass.
They'll be down to 4 by the time they roll into Ann Arbor. They're just thinking ahead (which is something to be said for them).
I guess this means that they want full coverage on leadership among all cliques and position groups on the team. So, in this scenario, how do they make, you know, pregame choices like whether to defer the choice on the kickoff and which side of the field to defend. Do they take a vote and majority wins.
I mean with 8 guys surrounding the referee? Do they all get a crack at making these calls or do they rotate the option so each week one guy gets his shot at calling heads or tails?
These are unforseen complications that really get messed up by having 8 deciders. Furthermore, how do they split up leadership duties in the lockerroom? I mean one guy could pull rank on another, and this could create a schism in team morale.
As things stand, Ohio is now poised to practically field a complete unit of captains on offense or defense. What if in the huddle, Miller calls the play but Mewhort disagrees, how do you resolve on-the-field miscommunication? Seriously, I don't think this has really been thought through. You could imagine a whole host of circumstances where having 8 captains could really gum up the works.
You need that many "captains" to keep the inmates in line. With Urban's past troubles, this is a good move assuming the "captains" aren't into bad things themselves.
Very likely that half of them get arrested / kicked off the team, so he'll be left with four by November.