MRunner73

August 15th, 2021 at 11:15 AM ^

As much as I truly HATE seeing a flood of scarlet and grey jerseys all of those fans are wearing all around Ann Arbor every two years, you are 100% correct. I feel this year will be no different.

We'd have to go back to the 1990s (before Tressel) when there wasn't THAT many OSU fans milling about Ann Arbor.

mgoblue0970

August 15th, 2021 at 12:50 PM ^

If someone sells their tickets to someone from Ohio, then they deserve to be banned from being a season ticket holder ever again.

Not to mention it's "Senior Day".  How many people on this board bitch about the negative people here, trumpet how much of a fan they are, and then sell their tickets -- to the game which honors the players out there busting their asses and doing the work?!

That last part is what truly disgusts me.

WeimyWoodson

August 15th, 2021 at 1:15 PM ^

I'm sure season ticket holders might feel a bit different if Michigan won a game against OSU more than once a decade at this point.  If Harbaugh had an even record with OSU right now I have a feeling there would less than 25% of Michigan season ticket holders selling their tickets to The Game.

WolvinLA2

August 15th, 2021 at 11:36 AM ^

Yeah - in a lot of ways it's worse. Keep in mind that AA is a pretty small town and on a gameday, the football game traffic is the only traffic to contend with. Columbus is a good sized city with plenty of other traffic impacting things. Also you have more OSU fans with a longer drive. Sure, many of them live in Columbus, but a large proportion (much larger than you'd have at Michigan) are driving from Cleveland and Cincinnati. 

wolve1972

August 15th, 2021 at 2:37 PM ^

Yeah, just heard on the news the other day that Columbus is right around 1 million people now (new census) inside the city limits  and 2.3 million (with the suburbs). It has exploded since the 1960s.  It's now the 2nd largest city in the Midwest behind Chicago. Keep in mind, the OSU campus is just north of downtown which equates to a logistics nightmare on gameday. 

wolve1972

August 15th, 2021 at 8:31 PM ^

My point was that Columbus is booming and getting huge. It's city area hasn't really changed much since 1960 and from that time it's city population has grown from 471,000 to it's current estimate of 952,000 in 2021.  It's 2021 metro is estimated now at 2.2 to 2.3 million.  Not exactly a cow town. Either Columbus or Indianapolis is listed as the Midwest' 2nd largest city behind Chicago on the websites that list city populations - it's close between the two

But if you really want to see how big Columbus has gotten, check out its skyline. It had one skyscraper in the 1960s - the Lincoln Leveque Tower. Take a look now. 

Believe me, comparing Detroit to the current Columbus is like comparing night to day.  I know, I've lived and done business in both cities

DMill2782

August 14th, 2021 at 11:21 PM ^

I'd guess it's because the in person football experience declines every year. The game is very slow and media timeouts have hit an unpalatable level. It's just better to watch at home with friends where you can shoot the shit during the 45 seconds of nothing happening between every play. 

BroadneckBlue21

August 15th, 2021 at 2:08 AM ^

That’d feel just as grand, like my childhood years when UM actually did win the games and I feel deeper in love with UM in my OSU hometown.

I am sure the stadium will be rocking, but there is still a pandemic and loads of people are extremely annoying when there isn’t a mutating virus and early winter looming.

DMill2782

August 15th, 2021 at 7:47 AM ^

Well, The Game weekend costs as much as a week long vacation so watching from home is usually the most sensible option for us out of towners.

I've been to a handful of the games against OSU in my life and they're fantastic (I've only been to one loss). Getting bent over a barrel by hotels and 3rd party ticket vendors is not fantastic. Really hard to justify the cost now considering it's pretty much a guaranteed loss. 

evenyoubrutus

August 15th, 2021 at 7:57 AM ^

This is the right answer. I am strongly considering not going to many, or any games this year. It’s become more of a chore at this point. You give up your whole Saturday, the stands are packed, bathrooms are difficult to access, food/drinks are outrageously priced. Then you add that media timeouts suck the energy out of the stadium. I can't tell you how many times I've forgotten who had the ball or what the last play was or where the ball is after coming back from a timeout. And for all of those reasons I haven't even gotten to the product on the field, but even for a team like OSU, the regular season has very little meaning anymore, at least compared to what it used to be.

Michigan Arrogance

August 15th, 2021 at 8:23 AM ^

Yep, I think it's 3 things:

  1. Price of everything. Food, parking, tix (see Seth's post 2 weeks ago). Used to be you could run up to A2 for a NW game, find street parking (might have to walk but w/e), grab a ticket from a  scalper (or a friend who doesn't mind giving a ticket or two when they paid <$20-30 each). It went from a $100-200 dollar day to $500-750 for 4 ppl.
  2. HDTV, ALL games on TV + obnoxious fans you don't have to deal with. I don't go to games to treat MSU, OSU fans like subhumans; that's not fun for me. I certainly don't want to be treated that way.
  3. So many games. I talked to a guy I worked with 13 years ago who would set up HUGE tailgates every home game at the golf course (I think). It used to be 4-6 special events where you'd prep food and pack up on friday night, get up at 5-6am Sat, set up, cook, etc. game, then clean up - a 12-15 hr day. That's doable 4-6 times a year: twice in mid-late Sept and 3-4 more in Oct-early Nov. Now it's literally every weekend in Sept and every other in Oct thru the weekend after turkey day. Weather is now too hot (or huge T-storms sometimes) the 1st 1-2 games, and too shitty the last 1-2. It's just not worth it - and this is coming from a BIG tailgater family.

IDK, I think the ticket packages that get you 3-4 games are great. Unless you're a 1%er who can afford the suits, I'm not sure there are a lot of ppl who want full season tix pkg anymore.

MRunner73

August 15th, 2021 at 11:23 AM ^

You guys are correct so the question is; will supply and demand drive DOWN ticket prices? Econ 101 says it should but is not 100% reliable. Demand is shrinking and by at least 10% or more so that should dictate both ticket prices and food prices at the stadium. Also, couple that with the more strict safety rules, long gone are days one can bring there own booze and coolers into the stadium.

2morrow

August 15th, 2021 at 10:16 AM ^

Exactly evenyou.... hour drive to the stadium, parking, seating, food, getting out and home after the game. The media time outs. Ticket prices. Seems like a trip with the family for 3-4 games a year was costing more than $2000.

We stopped going a few years ago and with the money I saved purchased a nice tv.

I just upgraded this year to a large OLED and couldn't be happier. The beer is cheaper, the bathroom closer, no travel time, and I can actually switch between games during commercials.

UgLi Eric

August 15th, 2021 at 12:56 AM ^

My guess is the fans are tired of being so good and gaming what is a very boring Big Ten slate without any real challenging regular season games. Also they are always let down by their season's goal (national championship) despite having the best players in every position, the best coaches, and an athletic department that will pay whatever it takes. 

Life must be tough for Buckeye's fans these days. 

BlueinLansing

August 15th, 2021 at 1:02 AM ^

Same as everyone else, ticket prices are too high, home schedule has just two big games (Oregon, Penn State), in stadium experience sucks games too long, tickets and the day in general getting to expensive.  Why buy a season ticket package when you can pick and choose on the secondary market.

WolverineMan1988

August 15th, 2021 at 7:24 AM ^

It’s tough even for diehard fans to justify the costs of going to every game, especially when you know more than half of those games are going to be non-competitive blowout wins. The article notes that mini packages (3 or 4 games are becoming more popular). People still want to go to games, but they now have so many more options than just buying a full season ticket package. Consumer habits are simply evolving.

vablue

August 15th, 2021 at 8:07 AM ^

This, all of this.  Is it really a surprise that in the middle of a pandemic people may not want to sit with 100k other people and pay a bunch of money to do it?  
 

Before we keep crushing our own AD, might be worthwhile to note all the other schools are having the same problem, and possibly worse.

Wolverine 73

August 15th, 2021 at 7:59 AM ^

My brother had OSU season tickets.  A few years ago, they started reassigning seats every year based on voluntary “contributions” to the school.  He lost his seats he’d had for several years, and got less desirable ones.  The price of tickets also went up frequently.  That, together with the diluted Big Ten schedule everyone deals with, led him to drop the seats.  So, yeah, another example of the Big Pig theory at work.